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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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Okayyy I so made a cruddy mistake looking over my engine the other day: I pulled out the spark plug wires to put in some aftermarket wires, but I forgot which spark plugs go to which distributor. I'm not sure which Trailing side (T1 + T2) go to, nor the Leading side (L1 + L2)
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Old Jan 30, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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trailing plug is on top, Leading plug is on bottom.

1 is front rotor 2 is rear rotor
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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Thanks so much man, really appreciate it
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bhop
^ Emory, "running ok" is not acceptable for such a simple rebuild. What is the car doing?

Also, wasn't your engine recently rebuilt?
It's running just a little rough and underpowered. Also only getting 20MPG. Probably plugs and timing and I think a slight vacuum issue. I've been too dang busy to mess with it. Yes it was just rebuilt, and I've got about 1,200 miles on the rebuild now.

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Old Feb 8, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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It's running just a little rough and underpowered. Also only getting 20MPG. Probably plugs and timing and I think a slight vacuum issue. I've been too dang busy to mess with it. Yes it was just rebuilt, and I've got about 1,200 miles on the rebuild now.
Found it. Loose plug wire on the sending side. Pulled the plugs, they looked fine, pulled the other side of the cables, THEY looked fine, scratched my head , put it all back together, and it works great! So I made sure the connections are all tight and things are MUCH BETTER

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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does anyone have street porting templates for a 12a that I can borrow?
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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ALL Maryland owners please contact your representatives to fight or withdraw support for House Bill HB 550
http://mlis.state.md.us/2012rs/bills/hb/hb0550f.pdf
this bill and its senate couterpart SB 846
these bills seek to increase the period for a car to be able to be registered as historic from 20 years to 25 years, and make it MANDATORY for specialy classic car insurance for all cars registered as insurance.
In otherwards your ability to register your rx7 as historic will be decreased and even if you can there will be increased COST and RESTRICTIONS on your driving mileage because specialty insurance will monitor your usage/mileage much more strigently. I will try to post up a thread w/ more info and specifics as I find out. Here is a link to the status of the bill.
http://mlis.state.md.us/2012rs/billfile/hb0550.htm
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryan Jacobs
ALL Maryland owners please contact your representatives to fight or withdraw support for House Bill HB 550
http://mlis.state.md.us/2012rs/bills/hb/hb0550f.pdf
this bill and its senate couterpart SB 846
these bills seek to increase the period for a car to be able to be registered as historic from 20 years to 25 years, and make it MANDATORY for specialy classic car insurance for all cars registered as insurance.
In otherwards your ability to register your rx7 as historic will be decreased and even if you can there will be increased COST and RESTRICTIONS on your driving mileage because specialty insurance will monitor your usage/mileage much more strigently. I will try to post up a thread w/ more info and specifics as I find out. Here is a link to the status of the bill.
http://mlis.state.md.us/2012rs/billfile/hb0550.htm
This is interesting and that it only applies to historic plates not street rod plates. From the MVA "To qualify as a street rod, your vehicle must be 25 years old or older and must have been substantially altered from the manufacturer's original design." Which is what most of our cars could qualify for and not have to worry about the change in insurance.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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That is a very narrow view of the situation. I think it is fair to say once/if THEY have there way ALL regulations will be modified. If you think they would touch the historic plates WITHOUT eventually/shortly thereafter modifying the regulations for street rods then you need to pay attention to how things work in Annapolis. If this is allowed to go through EXPECT a modification to ALL regulation pertaining to historic or street rod cars. As you stated there is currently a 5 year period between historic and street rod eligibility, don't you think if they change the historic they will change the street rod 5 years later as it has always been?...
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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If this passes, I will no longer have any interest in ever moving to Md. We in Va already have the 25 yr rule.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Obviously this is more relevant to s5 and 3rd gen guys. Wescmcbride, keep in mind even though you will still be able to register 1g's reletively easy the special insurance companies WILL monitor you mileage, in otherwards you can forget DDing your 1g unless you want to significantly increasea your insurance costs. Yes, I know "technically" we all people are not supposed to be DD'ing their historic cars but we all know plenty who do.....
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Frankly, considering you live in one of the best places to live and best business environments in the country (N.VA) I wouldnt want to move here anyways You want to know Gov. O'Malleys solution to Maryland economic problems...increasing the gas tax by 18 cents PER GALLON and the Sales tax (AGAIN, for the second time during his tenure!!! keep in mind he already raised it by 20% to 6% from 5% a few years back).


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If this passes, I will no longer have any interest in ever moving to Md. We in Va already have the 25 yr rule.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:02 AM
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Bryan, have they spelled out how they would monitor the mileage? I mean how could you tell the difference between someone who illegally drives their car 10 miles everyday to work vs. someone who legally drives their car to track/show events on weekends (or long trips like to DGRR). They would effectively rack up the same mileage even if you measured it month to month.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by He's On Toroids
Bryan, have they spelled out how they would monitor the mileage? I mean how could you tell the difference between someone who illegally drives their car 10 miles everyday to work vs. someone who legally drives their car to track/show events on weekends (or long trips like to DGRR). They would effectively rack up the same mileage even if you measured it month to month.
Yeah... and for someone who never takes their car to the mechanic or emissions... they haven't really had a record of my mileage for a long time. are they going to send someone out to check?
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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They can require that you stop by the MVA for an inspection or mileage verification. I'm not saying they will, I'm saying they could. This is what they do if you get a repair order.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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I already have my mileage "monitored" by my insurance to get an even lower rate (<7500 miles/year). They only check it by asking me what my odometer reads, total honor system.

When I looked at insurance options, their version of "historic" insurance had to be completely stock with pictures taken. Even a different set of wheels would make the car not eligible. So this change would require insurance companies to alter the policies they offer.

Gotta love the legislative session....2300 bills presented and voted on in 90 days.

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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will all you MD guys please consider putting a link or notice of hb 550 in your sigs. Especially if you don't have a sig anyways. The first thing to fight the politicians in Annapolis is we need to raise awareness.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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Hello guys, im in Hyattsville and have completed well almost completed putting a 93 tt in my 84 body but cannot find spark yet is anyone familiar with the inputs the ecu needs to generate spark? 93tt stock 93 igniter i have used only the pins I belive I need from the main harness and the complete engine harness
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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Hello guys, im in Hyattsville and have completed well almost completed putting a 93 tt in my 84 body but cannot find spark yet is anyone familiar with the inputs the ecu needs to generate spark? 93tt stock 93 igniter i have used only the pins I belive I need from the main harness and the complete engine harness
Uhh pics or it didnt happen I think the 3rd gens use a crank trigger. Or a CAS or both. IDK. look for the FSM in the third gen section
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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No spark

I read on a thread that the 87 crank sensor would work because it provides the ecu with the same input but I can't see how it would the trigger wheel for the 93rt have 12 theeth and the 87 have 24 and 2 on the upper sensor im a automotive tech. But new to this rotarys I have all the diagrams i could get, thanks for the sugestions
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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are you using the '93s ECU or something else?
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Arecibo
I read on a thread that the 87 crank sensor would work because it provides the ecu with the same input but I can't see how it would the trigger wheel for the 93rt have 12 theeth and the 87 have 24 and 2 on the upper sensor im a automotive tech. But new to this rotarys I have all the diagrams i could get, thanks for the sugestions
The 87 one goes at half e-shaft speed, so shows up as 12+1, which is the same as the 93.

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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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well i sold my 87 awhile back & i just bought a 91 with 133k org miles. im gonna get it rebuild. but i was explaining my car to the rebuilder. telling me at 133k the rotor housings are prolly junk. i need another s5 motor thats rebuildable. help me out plz!
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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who is the rebuilder? why would 133k rotor housings be junk...
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 12:44 AM
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^ mike from u.p.r up in gaithersburg
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