DiegoRx8

so a turbo 2 motor that has a few upgrades is not a performance motor?? Really?? dude you just don't want to be wrong. there is people out there more knowledgeable than you dude, get real.

driftfc87

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You are being an *******, not realistic. But since you go by the blue book on a car it's all good. Do you really think Cody and I are really just trying to pull one over on you or something.

Why spend 4k on this car when you could get a better one for 3k?? It's like wiping before you poop it just doesn't make sense.

If you're that retarded to pay that for it you deserve everything you get. More than likely a blown motor 2k down the road.

driftfc87

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Bolt ons are not a motor upgrade. 3mm apex seals, hardened stationary gears, a bridge port, that is a performance motor. Other wise it's just a stock motor cause it was built from the factory, not a performance shop.

I know there are WAY more knowledgeable people out there than me, this is 100% true, but bolt ons to the exterior of the motor don't make the internals performance, so seriously get real dude.

My motor in my subaru is not a performance motor I have bolt ons but my motor is 100% stock from the factory.

http://www.rotorsportsracing.com/per...ng/engines.htm
^^ See this thread for a PERFORMANCE MOTOR

vipergts_3

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dude im a freaking jew, do you really think i would over pay for something ?
i never said i wanted the car, but since i injected a book price... i guess that means im going to buy it. but if it were me i would sell it for 5000 i know for a fact i would get it. kids are so freaking stupid.
but that being said though i am in the market for a good looking fc. when i get my raise at jan 1st i might be able to swing an fd. so i am kinda on the fence... and no im not getting rid of any first gen i have... unless i cut it up.

DiegoRx8

Thats assuming i was asking 4k. Ill give it to you at that.

dude the engine hasn't been opened up, so for all we know it could have been rebuilt. I mean car starts on every crank after a minimum of 5 years sitting. It even left some black marks on the floors when we stepped on it.
anything bolt on is considered aftermarket, and anything that is on the car is performance mods. So going by your "FSM" its considered a performance modified engine by now.

DiegoRx8

How much you looking to spend on FD?? lol i can get you one in spring if your really interested. LMK

driftfc87

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It's not worth 1.5k IMHO. Brian bought his for 900 bucks in WAY better condition than this one. Oh yeah absolutely no rust either, with a performance motor. I'll give you 650 for it and you can trailer it down to me.

You didn't say performance modified engine, you said performance motor, I posted a link to a site that builds performance motors, you can look at it and do a little reading if you want, you might learn something.

driftfc87

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If you like ripping people off that's pretty fucked up, I'll keep that in mind if I ever see you selling something. Buy it for what Diego wants for it and if you can make a honest sale of 5k on it I will personally give you 100 bucks for doing so.

DiegoRx8

so it had under 85k miles, was single owner, no body damage at all, paint was brand new! and payed 900?? RIGHT... It must of been sold as a quick deal, owner must of been struggling with money or didn't know what he had. either way i doubt it was in the condition i stated.. And no rust? that's a lie too, any car over 5 years old has rust. Also you need to stop trying to put prices on other peoples cars especially when you haven't even looked at it personally. Your just like those trolls online that post offers but never really have the money or intention to buy it.

blmcquig

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compression test- 1. engine warm 2. pull egi fuse 3. wot
that is a compression test.
if it is done cold, it is a cold compression test (aka, poormans compression test, or junkyard compression test)
so, in closing, if it is done warm, its just a "compression test"
if done cold, it is a "cold compression test"
please note the difference.
thank you.

ill let you keep your opinions.
but get your facts straight please.

vipergts_3

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i might just hold you to that. and by judging the cars you showed me for selling for over 3 then yes with his body and interior i am posotive he could get more. i am starting to get them imprestion you riped on diego was that you cant actually afford what he might be selling. since it isnt even his... but all that aside. if you dont have the money to buy parts from me then looks like you dont really need it do you. after all its not like i dont just give crap away that i dont need. but if i do that its only because i dont think you are a douche.

driftfc87

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The only troll here is you. Don't cry or be all butt hurt on any of the offers since you didn't POST A ASKING PRICE.

You are trying to make a quick buck off people like some ******* scammer. Just like with the turbo you posted up earlier. All you did was post a picture you're to stupid to list the specs on it or a price.

Stop cluttering this thread with your useless posts and attempts to scam people. Put this in the For Sale section and see how long you last. Just like your thread for your rx-3 people are going to think you are a retard on your asking price.

driftfc87

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But you are a douche, in your eyes it's cool to list something and lie about it to better yourself.

Why do you and diego both think it's a money thing? I don't get it. Look at my sig. I'm currently building a motor for my subaru, it has a fresh 2.5 short block, ported heads, and I just bought a set of Brian Crower stage 2 cams. I also just bought a Helix TBE this weekend. I'm going tonight to pick up a EJ205 short block to rebuild.

I don't know how I'm doing all this with no money

My offer will still stand but if you don't sell it for 5k then you owe me a 100 bucks, I can wait til the first of the month for it too. Remember the key word is HONESTLY if you know what that means.

Brian was thrilled to hear you call his car a hunk of ****. You sure like to talk don't you?

DiegoRx8

They are both a compression test. You can go by what you want.

Dude when have i cried about the price? I see your offers and i keep quiet. And i doubt im trying to make money here, i can sell this car to some stupid kid for 5k and then see it all trashed next year. Why would i do that? Cause i want money? Get real dude i don't need a quick 1-2k. LMAO im not here trying to make money, don't need to. I have other investments where i can make money, i was just trying to keep a good cond rx7 with in people that know their ****. But you guys hated and talk **** right from the start. You judge it and my self with out knowing either of them.

Want to know why i didn't post specs? Cause non of you have the money to buy it, seriously if you want to pay 900 for this car, imagine what you want that 3k turbo for.
It was posted as a joke, just to show how big it was. its staying with me for a 20b build.

And don't even get into Rx3's cause im dead sure thats water you will never get into.

Again it's not about the money, you think this car gonna fund my 2011 F250?? NO... And who cares what you doing to your subaru.

Do note this argument has NOTHING to do about the price or money i want. It's about you saying all this **** that really you have no idea about.
Want a price take it for 3500.

driftfc87

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driftfc87

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Diego you are a ******* ricer at best. You will never do any of the **** you talk about mainly because it's just you talking ****.

The point I was trying to make about my car is do you think all of that stuff was cheap? I really don't give a **** about rx-3's or a rx-8's with painted blue ricer wheels. You need something built you go to a shop, I work on my own **** and build my own stuff. At least I can take pride in saying I do my own work, but when someone asks you, you'll have to tell them, Oh I don't have the skills or knowledge to build my own stuff so I had to buy it from someone else that does.

If your going to insult everyone by accusing them we're all to broke stop posting. What is so hard to understand about that. Plus insulting people that you're trying to sell something to is a pretty poor business tactic. Hopefully your parents don't run their restaurant like you try to sell cars, you won't be in business for long.

DiegoRx8

lol dude you started with all the personal attacks. i don't like to get personal cause i don't take any of this to heart. what you think of me is fine, people think about other people the way they do. Yes i might of now insulted you and your friends but that was cause its true. I never mentioned it at the start because i didn't want to get personal. But this just got out of hand. My rx8 was "riced" just cause the blue wheels, then i had SBC Rpf1s, now i got stock black wheels. Just cause i like a car with a little contrast or color it shouldn't make me a ricer. I also spent over 9k last winter in my attempt to make the rx8 better, it failed and i sold everything. I realized the 8 is not a good platform. But i did all my work dude, i never been to a shop to have something done. I swapped my Renesis out of my 25k car, it was the first time i have ever done this. How many of you would do this to a 2 year old car and 24k miles??

Now building and working on your car is a different thing. Building requires fab work, do you do some?? I know i don't, i dont have experience on it. But it don't mean i won't try. I have a welder here just need time to get to learn. Look at my rx3, its going to get all soda blasted here in my garage, im gonna do it not a shop. Yes i do not have the skills you do right now, but im learning. I can take that at heart.

I also didn't start insulting everyone, you did. I didn't post a price because of that. I bet you would of started insulting like hell if i would of posted that price from the start. But i didn't i didn't want this to get personal or flame wars. But it did, and you started it. You even went as far as insult someone that has been on here way longer than i have. Idc what you say about me, say all you like, but guarantee you i won't say **** about you.

driftfc87

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http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factory.../01_ENGINE.pdf
^^^ First section will tell you how to do a CORRECT compression test. This is mazda's way. If you think it's wrong call them up and tell them

Diego you come on here and tell everyone they can't afford to buy stuff. You posted a car that you had for sale and didn't even post a asking price??? Then when Cody and I told you what it was actually worth you got all but hurt and started crying and telling everyone they are to broke to even buy a car but I'm insulting everyone cause I tell you YOUR car isn't worth what you think it is. Really??? Zeke got what he deserves for talking **** first, I have no problem insulting him and you but I didn't say **** about anyone else.. You're just mad cause you can't make a quick buck off this car like you thought you could. I'm sorry for your misfortune.

You make no sense I have admitted several times already I'm not the most knowledgeable person out there about cars but I do have more experience with fc's than most people on this thread. Does that make you jealous? I don't get it.

You are a ricer, you just don't drive a honda cause I'm sure your mommy and daddy can afford to buy you something nicer.

Please stop cluttering this thread with your junk. This is why we have a for sale section.

turblown88

hey zeke thanks for trashin my car when ive done nothing to you, so f*ck you!. Oh n that i quote "hunk of **** black one of your buddies" threw down 264whp the other weekend, so when have you ever built anything nice, all i saw at the last meet was a shity fb.

DiegoRx8

Dude i never said it was wrong, i just said the difference between a cold and warm compression is not super huge like you guys make it seem. Both Cold and Warm are fine ways to check for comp on a ROTARY.

Again i NEVER said u guys couldnt afford it. You are just thinking **** you believe. I came in here and said "Anyone in need of an FC??" I posted it in here because like i said, i wanted to offer it to you guys. IDC if it sells... When did i say your price wasn't fair or when was i crying?? NEVER go back and read everything. Only time i said something was when you posted if it was free. And when you guys kept saying it is worth 400 with out seeing the car.
You didn't know what i wanted for it, till 4 post up. And even then its just a price. You kept assuming all the way. Insulting me all the way, really your more immature than a 12 year old. Again im not mad at all, you know i slept just fine last night. Really you need to get off your high horse and stop trying to make me look bad when all i wanted to do is offer a reasonable car to you guys.

Again idk what your talking about when you say i dont make any sense. I replied to you assumptions of me taking my cars to shops to do my work. What don't you get out of it?? I personally don't care what you know about FCs, since to me they aren't high up on the pedestal.

Again a personal attack.. So are you jealous my parents can buy me good ****??
But FYI i pay my own cars. Only thing parents lend me is a room but that is all.
But seriously stop giving me personal attacks, attack the car and the seller but don't go into personal ****.

Ice_Wolf

Well to start with -

Diego, that was at WOT, fuel cut off, booster pack on, stone cold and then at operating temperature with the girlfriend turning the key for approximately 5 compression strokes and me reading the gauge. A cold compression test is not an accurate way to tell a motor's condition. It can give you a vague idea, but not a good enough one that I'd purchase a motor based on it. Also, a compression test really doesn't mean much on a performance motor IMO, especially if the compression ratios have been messed with by changing pistons, heads, rotors, etc. At that point you can only get a vague of idea of where it should be at. And anyways, like I said, compression numbers are given for an engine that's at operating temp, nothing less. Also, Steve's right, a performance motor is not a motor that simply has bolt-ons. To me a performance motor is something that's had the internals worked, rebuilt, etc. If bolt-ons make a motor a performance motor than my girlfriend's 97 Civic screams performance and gets 42 MPG? *shrug*

Also, I wouldn't be talking **** about Brian's car, especially since he wasn't even in this to begin with. I wouldn't consider that car **** especially with how good it actually does run and how much power it makes. It's not perfect by any means but it's definitely better than 75% of FC's that you see around. Also, I care about what Steve's done with the Subaru and I'm sure so does Blade. Blade's also a Subaru guy and I've looked into getting one myself. So shut your mouth, don't be assuming things.

As it's been said before, book price means **** on these cars. The value of these cars is based on motor and body condition almost entirely. They're not collector's cars by any means. The book value on these cars is correct if you're looking at mint condition in great mechanical condition. Any TII that needs rebuilt or is close to needing rebuilt isn't worth crap unless everything else on the car checks out great. Everyone knows if you want to sell a RX-7 compression numbers are the first thing you should have. This car isn't even close to worth 5,000, not even 3,400 honestly. 3,400 should buy you an excellent condition car with a healthy motor that hasn't been sitting for 5 years. If you're going to post something, you NEED to have an asking price, as state in the rules for any For Sale section, plain and simple.

Diego, you're trying to insult people on here by saying we don't have the money to buy things? That I don't understand. I've seen a lot of people that don't look like they had money until you see their bank statement and they're sitting on 30,000+ dollars in their savings account alone. Just because they drive a cheap car and don't show off doesn't mean they don't have money. Also, Steve did definitely call you out about all these projects and not going through with them. Like you said, the RX-8 was a failure and saying that it's a bad platform is fucked up. The car wasn't meant to be turbo'd, it was meant to be N/A. Look at the port design. Everytime I've seen a turbo RX-8 reliability was a large issue. Everyone that runs N/A seems to be able to get 70,000 miles out of them without many issues besides possible flooding on cold starts. I myself would have never messed with the poor thing, especially with it only having 24,000 miles. You should have just drove it until it needed a rebuild then done the engine build. Until I see this 20B build that was supposedly going into the RX-8 then I'll raise the bullshit flag sky high.

Also, to take this on a personal level instead of an automotive level - until you move out of your parent's house on your own you really have no place to talk about finances. It's a whole different story when you live on your own like the rest of us do. Telling us that you live with your parents still support you won't help your cause. Also, telling me that you're buying a 2011 F250 tells me that you don't care about money, especially considering you can get a certified pre-owned 2009 or 2010 with 20,000 miles on it for 65% of the price. Certified pre-owned are as good as new, vehicle can't have any body work, blemishes, interior scuffs, and has to have all recommended maintenance performed. I work at a Ford dealership, don't doubt me.

DiegoRx8

When did i talk **** about that guys car? Really??

When did i talk **** about the subaru?? Again it had nothing to do with the conversation we were having. He went and started that then went and called me out on my builds. When did i say anything about working on cars before that?? He didn't call me out on failing my build, but ASSUMING i didn't do any of the work.

I was insulting the people that kept insulting me. Anyone else that wasn't a part of this conversation doesn't have anything to do with it. Plain and simple. If your gonna call me out why can't i call you out?? I honestly already know you guys are against me, i have no problem with that. I personally never thought anything bad about you guys.

The rx8 IS a bad platform, for what you put into it you can just buy a nice FD. I have seen 500hp renesis and they ran just fine. He claims great reliability. The Rx8 was a bad platform for me, thats all. And rx8 is meant for whatever the user wants. Just cause mazda says its only for this it don't mean it cant be for something else. If it were true most people wouldn't mod their cars. And I dont really care if you call BS on me, i expect people to do that.

When did i talk about finances? Again you are just attacking me. Yes i live at home, but im 20 and still in school whats wrong with that?
Also its not that i dont care about money, its just im not worried about it. I like you said, have a great financial standing and since im at home might as well take advantage of that. Who wouldnt? I know i can buy a used car for less, might end up doing that. But for now there is nothing wrong in saving up for a brand new car.

vipergts_3

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that all depends on the wife... budget gets set by here and i know she loves fd's. she even said she would substiute one for a viper. if it were nice. i dont even care if it is base version. actually would prefer red, but the wife would not want to stand out that much i dont think. hell a roller that is in good shape would even be great. you know everything minus motor and tranny. fd's seem to be hovering at a decent price right now.

Ice_Wolf

Talking **** about Brian's car was directed towards Zeke, sorry for the confusion.

You stated that nobody here cares about what Steve does with his Subaru, and I simply stated what is quoted above. Also, you stated that certain people on here don't have the money or don't work on their own vehicles, Steve was simply showing that money isn't an issue with things and that he does his own work. It's not about who makes what money here, but when you said that "we" can't afford what you're selling it's a direct attack and of course we'd defend ourselves.

Basically the whole reason this started is that you did what you previous had done - posted up something asking if anyone wanted it and didn't post any more pictures, specs, etc. and wouldn't post a price. How the **** are we supposed to be interested in what you have if you continue to do that? The reason you got called out is because it's something you've done before, not that it was anything new.

The RX-8 isn't a bad platform. I'm not a huge advocate of the car, but I can say it has it's place when compared to a RX-7. Just because it runs about the same as a good FD doesn't mean that people want a FD. The RX-8 is the rotary enthusiast's commuter car, it's not made to be an all-out sports car like the RX-7. Also, it has a TRUE backseat, traction control, ABS, etc. which are things the RX-7's don't have. Not made to be a performance car like the RX-7's were, but like I said, it holds its own place in the rotary world.

I know that I was personally attacking you, it was meant to be. I'm simply stating that finances are a whole other game when you still live with your parents. You can't be talking about having all this money when you are getting free room and board from your parents. The whole "I save so much money why would I move out thing" is what I told people when I lived with my parents in college, but as soon as you do move out on your own you realize that it's a load of ****. Also, buying all these car parts and cars while living at home is irresponsible to me. If you're buying all this stuff just because you have the money and you're living at home still the money should be going to your parents who are the reason you have all that extra money. Even when I lived at home during college I didn't go spending all the money I was saving on car **** because I felt I would just be taking advantage of my parents. I instead used it to buy tools (Automotive Technician) and pay my tuition and books.

vipergts_3

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before you jump on the band wagon of missinformation. the car i was refering to was a black gxl that had clogged cats and was completely rotted out on the belly. it had at the time a n/a 13b and had so much power a geo metro 3 cyl could outrun it. i know because i did drive it and it was at that time a peice of ****. i would not have paid much more then scrap price at the time and that was... about a year ago. so if that is the car then sorry but when i looked and drove it it was in fact a hunk of ****.
i even posted a buyer beware thread about it too. pretty sure we were not talking about brians car.