DiegoRx8

Dude i know the sticker means ****. I was just saying it comes with the car. and thats what the original buyer payed for. im sure for you guys it means absolutely nothing but i know some people like seeing that.

Oh and just realized i have that RB 4port 12a holley intake. ill snap some pics here in 5 mins. ill pm u them.

vipergts_3

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does it have the original sticker ? i wasnt trying to sound like an *** there lol

Ice_Wolf

Bad color combination for sure. lol I was going to state in my last post that it probably had maroon interior. Even though it's in good shape it's still maroon with gray exterior. It's hard to tell how good of shape the body is in from the pictures, but I do see rust and scrapes. I honestly wouldn't even want to offer anything until I seen compression numbers and the car in person. All of us here know compression numbers and body condition make or break the price on TII's. Also, it's been modded, so who knows how much it's been beat on.

5400 for high retail? That would be the price for a mint condition TII selling at a dealership. The only time anybody would pay 5400 for a TII is perfect condition with a rebuild. Aftermarket parts add no value to the car. At best you get 50% back out of the parts installed, and that's with a clean car that everything else is mint. You don't mod a car to make money.

Most of us here are experts on these cars and know them well, so obviously we can weed through the bullshit, ya dig?

driftfc87

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Sorry but your word on compression means nothing, if jason said it had good compression I would take his word for it, but not you. Just because it runs doesn't mean it has perfect compression especially with 90k on it.

Do you go into Wal-Mart and just see make offer prices on everything. You are trying to sell a car and your missing a very important part of that.. A ASKING PRICE.

If you don't want to waste each others time then post a price or just like you said keep it no big deal.

driftfc87

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Look at these threads and tell me you still think he could get 5k for this car.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-rx-7-1986-1992-vehicles-108/1989-turbo-ii-%243150-price-drop-870578/

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-rx-7-1986-1992-vehicles-108/1990-turbo-2-cold-c-black-black-%243800-houston-866519/

Book value on a car this old means nothing.

Ice_Wolf

Amen to the compression thing. We got a FD in at my previous job on trade that wasn't running right and had no power until it would build boost. Had to drop the clutch from about 3k RPM's to take off or it'd sputter. Car would still hold an idle and still drive, but didn't have much power. Compression tested it, front rotor dead - 30 -30 - 0, final compression being like 35. Rear rotor was 90 - 90 - 90, final compression being around 100. Nobody figured it was blown besides me, everyone thought it just had some sort of fuel issues.

vipergts_3

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not trying to add fuel to the fire but his car isnt wrecked or sporting gay rims with black primer.
yes i think he could get 5 grand off the forum for it. and without a rebuild. but not on here or with a knowledgable car enthusiast. they are going to book it and offer around 3400. i have seen nicer looking color combos around me for around 2500 but they had a bit more mileage. but nothing crazy high. they were tii's as well so they are not exactly uncommon. at least not in the qc. too bad we cant get them on the forum.
or it could be put on ebay and he might get more. i have seen several junk rx7's that i have seen in person go for two and three times what any reasonable moron would pay for one.

driftfc87

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Gay rims? The cheese shredders are better than either one of those sets of wheels? You missed the point, they are all molested T2's and look what they were asking for and they are in better shape than Diego's or his friends or who evers car it is that he is trying to sell.

Not trying to offend you but you are stupid if you think he could get 5k for a molested T2 that sat for 5 years that more than likely has rust on it.

Dave sold Jason's old turbo 2 for 4k and tell me this one is worth more than jason's old FC. Seriously.

Not saying if he put it on ebay then lied about everything on the car building it up to something it's not, then he could probably screw someone out of some money for the car. Let's hope that won't be the case though.

driftfc87

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https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-rx-7-1986-1992-vehicles-108/f-s-87-tii-%244-500-a-784533/

Here is the for sale thread and some pics of Jason's car. 4k that's all he got for it.

DiegoRx8

never said it was the best looking car, and you guys can't be complaining. Especially when i didn't post a price. Another reason i didn't. Tell you the truth, i was gonna post this car here to sell to a local guy. I rather see this car around here then to some other guy out of state. Nor did i plan to make a buck out of it. I know its impossible to sell an FC to people on here and make money. (Thats why i own 2 Rx3s.. ) I was willing to negotiate with you guys but you went all out and hated on me with out any more info than those 3 words i posted.

lol not to be a dick but, the guy that owns this car has probably 10x more experience with anyone on this section. He has been working on rotaries for at least 30 years. I can give you his number and you can chat with him all you want. He gonna tell you the same thing i said.

vipergts_3

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ok, obviously i am looking at the condition of the body. the red one has a huge crush mark on the drivers rear quarter. also the passenger side door is messed up as well. perhapse this car is not taken care of? i would give the guy 1200 because the car looks like crap and obviously not well taken care of. i mean whats with the front bumper and fenders ? 3150 for a car that only books for 5 at the very best and will need alot of body work to make it presentable. the front is reasonable imho. but the rest is un acceptable. if it were worked on it would be a different story.
the black one has been rattel caned, look at the hood. ok no dings or what not. interior is pretty worn. maybe 2900, jsut because of the body being in good shape. but the interior will need work. and yes the rims are way gay.
how long ago did the fast and the furious fad that they keep trying to bring back go stale??

diegos car i am pretty sure hasnt been painted and has decent wear, nice interior and above all else. it isnt a heap that some kid had ahold of. i think 3400 maybe a little higher would be fair for his car. $5000 i do not think would be unobtainable.
as for jasons way nicer looking in the pictures since i have not seen that one in person either was a car that he needed to move so 4000 was a sacrafice in my opinion. someone got a hell of a deal.

driftfc87

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LOL not to be a dick but I really don't care what experience the guy has. He was to lazy to put a fuel pump in a car he wanted to sell. Then once someone suggested that he put one in.

For someone that has that much experience and doesn't know what compression his motor has or that it needs to be warm to do a compression test.

Don't get butt hurt for us trying to guess a price cause you won't post one. Post a price or shut up.

driftfc87

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Stick with FB's. You just don't get it.

vipergts_3

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i know what a shitty car is when i see one.however just because you do not agree dosent mean that you should be an ***.

DiegoRx8

Dude no one was lazy for anything. you don't even know what we were doing. We got the car last saturday. Washed it and put new battery. All electronics worked. We cranked it and cranked just fine but spark plugs were bad. He works 6 days a week at a Dealership so we had no time to work on it. Yesterday we put new plugs and cranked it and didnt fire. Checked pump and it was done, bought brand new and installed. Started on first crank.

dude the difference between cold compression and warm are not too far off. Its not like there is such a huge difference. Call up any shop down in PR where they actually know their ****, not some local kid that has done only a few rotaries rebuilds. If you want i can get you a number.

driftfc87

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You know a shitty fb when you see one they aren't the same. Not being an *** I'm just trying to show you what they are ACTUALLY worth. Stop talking about book value it really doesn't mean **** with a car that old. There are too many factors with older cars especially rotary's.

I wouldn't know the first thing to look for on a fb at least I can admit that.

Ice_Wolf

Cold engine compression and warm compression are very very different if you've ever checked. For instance, my girlfriend's Civic. One day I decided I'd check it cold and warm, just for ***** and giggles. Was a boring Saturday with nothing to do. Nominal pressures are around 180 for this engine. Got in the car, hooked up the battery pack to get full cranking voltage to the battery, pulled all the plugs, and cranked it over. Compression was 150 across the board. Went back through and installed all the plugs and drove the car until it was at operating temperature. Pulled all plugs and put the battery pack back on and cranked car again. This time 190 across the board. If you think 40 PSI is "not too far off" you're fucked in the head.

Not to be an *** Zeke, but Steve is kinda right. The price value on FC's is much different than FB's. I would have no problem paying $5,000 for Dave's old FC, but it had a much better reputation behind it, not only because Jason built it, but because it had pretty fresh paint, streetported and rebuilt motor, rare and expensive Greddy exhaust, S5 body, etc. A TII with 90k miles, no rebuilt motor, rust, scrapes, dents, and maroon interior isn't worth anything near 5,000. Even 3,400 is crazy for that car, even more so if it really did sit for 5 years. FC's that need work go for less than 1,000 dollars all day like Steve said. I actually went and looked at a rolling chassis that was in pretty decent overall shape for 200 dollars. These cars are not collector's cars by any means. They're 20+ year old sports cars that need restoration and work.

EDIT: The only person who cares about book value is a bank if you're trying to get a loan on one and honestly, a bank will be very hesitant to loan money on a car that old. Also, last time I checked with my bank they only consider a 1987 Turbo II in great condition to be worth 3,400 dollars. Book value truly doesn't mean anything for these cars.

vipergts_3

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ok so a corvette that has messed up quarter panels and doors... or that has been spray painted... dosent throw some flags up ?ok you dont know corvettes so you wouldnt understand im sorry its way too much for a person of your calibur to comprehend.
... so what about that mint un molested black 88 your buddie had a while back ? so that was worth 2000? that car was a hunk of ****.
i know what the second gens are worth because i do watch the selling prices both online and around town. there is a pattern and since diegos is only worth 400? what was the hunk of **** you were trying to sell worth ? since it reaked of coolant ? 200 ? what sucker did you end up unloading that heap on ? i know what a crapy car is when i see it and i know what a good car is when i see it. some people are stupid and pay too much and yes the book value is a fair estimate of what a car is worth.

driftfc87

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Ask your so called expert what Mazda recommends in the FSM on how to check compression and let me know what you find out.

I don't care what you were doing. You are trying to hawk a car that sat for 5 years with out a price and your getting butt hurt cause people on here aren't stupid. Get real dude, if your not man enough to put a price up then seriously STOP POSTING.

DiegoRx8

Was that comp check at WOT? or just crank?? that was particularly to your car. you can't say that its the same for all.

DiegoRx8

yes everyone goes by what mazda recommend!!
Have you ever bought an engine from a actual store or performance shop?? i doubt it.. But they will give you a compression check when its cold.

driftfc87

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I think the Black one you are talking about is my brother Brian's I'm sure he would love to hear you call his car a hunk of ****. I'll let him know. His car is in better condition than any turd you own man.

The last turbo 2 that I had, I believe you looked at and wasted my time on, I parted out for 2k. I'm sorry if I know how to make money on cars and you don't. If it was such a hunk of **** why did you come look at it and said you were going to buy it then never called? Welfare check didn't come in? I had it for sale for 1200 if you don't remember.

You don't know **** about worth on a fc so stop trying to sound like you do. Once again BOOK VALUE DOESN'T MEAN ****.

vipergts_3

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im just being realistic. i know what 2nd gens have been going for for the past several months. only reason i have been looking is for my wife. she likes the way they ride. and honestly since you guys have such a great hook up. im looking for one with about 50K on the clock. deffenatly every option red with black leather oh and mint condition with some of those gay *** rims for around 3000. since you guys have the hook up that should be no problem. oh i want no paint chips either. hell that might knock it down to 2000!! since fbs and fd's are so far different in price and technology, i mean what do i know... its not like i know anything at all about anything besides a freaking fb.

driftfc87

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This isn't a performance motor so how does this pertain to what we are talking about? It's a stock motor so you would follow the directions in the FSM. You are just ignoring the fact that to do a GOOD compression check on any motor they need to be at normal operating temp.

vipergts_3

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dude i make 20 bucks an hour so dont call me poor trash. and your car that i looked at was an overpriced hunk of ****. the black car i am talking about was the one that was an auto car that was turned into a 5 speed and i recall it was an n/a car.
and all of my cars run great btw. and i do make money on all my cars.