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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by heidihi
So what are you tuning? fd3s with my pfc and commander

You going to run more than stock boost pressure? yeah 13-14psi is what im shooting for

I went for single for reliability and ease. ill go single prob next year sometime if i feel the need to do it.
ew...... a PFC...

LOL not a huge fan of that system (mostly due to using stock wiring harness).

13-14 good boost lvl for the twins. You should be make'n pretty good power.

If the twins do go south you can always go BNR upgrade and I hear they do pretty well.

Definately do a full non-seq and take the doors out if you do the conversion.
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DiegoRx8
really? i have yet to seen one for that price. and i mean running or in good conditon. closest iv seen was 5k. this one i believe is j ported and rebuilt.
dunno saw one about 1-2 week ago for 4k running.

Alot depends on the series of the 20b too due to changes.
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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anyone going to midnight mayhem this friday?

i'm not sure if im taking the audi, i might've blown the endcaps off of intercooler #3......



edit: also, is anyone going to UFC in chicago oct 25th?

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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Anyone have a downpipe for an FD Rx7 stock twins that they are willing to sell? I need to get rid of my pre-cat.
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Anyone have a downpipe for an FD Rx7 stock twins that they are willing to sell? I need to get rid of my pre-cat.
yup I do.

your standard 3 inch stainless dp.

Also have Apexi intakes for the twins.

No longer need since converted to single a few yrs ago.
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sesshoumaru
yup I do.

your standard 3 inch stainless dp.

Also have Apexi intakes for the twins.

No longer need since converted to single a few yrs ago.

How much you willing to part with it for? I need one, but don't mind used since I will eventually go single. I will also be up in Iowa City this weekend so I can stop by to pick it up.
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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ive got a spare aftermarket downpipe for an FD.
came with my FD, but im not going to use it.


Ian, yeah, i work with Jessica now. i didnt care for the place in town much. dont really like waking up at 5 every morning.
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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I figured I would post this up for you guys to see.

I was asked recently to work on a RX7 from a friend. Now, I am a degree holding, level 2 Chrysler factory trained technician, and soon to be ASE trained technician. I work at a Chrysler/Jeep/Kia dealership currently, so I work on cars for a living.

The car that I was asked to work on would start but not stay running well or hold an idle. I drove out of my way to fix this car (approximately 2 hours). Keep in mind this is all on my own free time separate from work. I was able to get this car running and idling to get it to my house in order to further diagnose and fix the problem. Turns out the problem was that the intakes were not sealed properly along with a few other problems.

I took the intake pieces to work, de-carbed them, smoothed out the JB weld areas, re-sealed the block-off plates, and removed the studs and completely smoothed and cleaned the gasket surfaces. I re-installed the intakes on the car with new gaskets along with cleaning up a few of the grounds, installing a new exhaust manifold gasket, removing some of the un-needed wiring from the removed accessories, adjusting the TPS, setting the idle, etc. etc. Along with this I performed a complete inspection on the car to see what suspension components needed replaced, leaking seals, etc. as well as replacing the front control arms and front struts,mounting and balancing 4 tires, performing a compression test, and diagnosing a few other problems.

As you can see I had put a good chunk of time into this car for the friend. This was my free time, not work time, and did this all in a couple weeks on the weekends and after work. I didn't mind doing this for the friend because it's stuff I've done before, so it wasn't as hard for me as it might have been for someone else to do. Keep in mind shop time at a dealership is around 90 dollars an hour customer pay and the cheapest price at an independent shop is 40 dollars and that some people will do side work for 20 dollars. I was also nice enough to use my dealership discount to purchase parts and used my own money (expecting to be paid back) to save the friend a good amount of his money. When it was all said and done all I asked for was 200 dollars + the parts I paid for.

I was told that price was outrageous and that I had done a half-assed job. I was told the car came back in worse condition than it was given to me in. Also, when I compression tested the car after getting it running again and able to hold an idle I found that it had low compression on the rear rotor (two small bounces and one high bounce on the compression tester). Apparently this is also my fault too. When the car was first given to me I was scared to drive it due to the ball joints being extremely loose, both front wheels having only 4 lug nuts a piece, and the engine low on compression.

I still have not received payment and the car was picked up a week and a half ago. As this person is/was a friend, I'm not hasty to start insults, legal action, etc. I have been very patient with things thus far but am starting to lose it, seeing as how I went very much so out of my way to work on this car (parts, gas, time) What would you guys do in my situation?
Old Aug 20, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by blmcquig
ive got a spare aftermarket downpipe for an FD.
came with my FD, but im not going to use it.
If you don't mind me asking how much and how far are you from des moines/iowa city? I just want one to remove heat from my engine bay during autocrosses, track days, and citydriving until I go single turbo. Plus that pre cat is heating up my interior like crazy.

Ice Wolf I'm sorry to hear your story. I have had my friend work on my 7 with me and he has unintentionally broken some parts (ok one part but you get my point) but I am grateful for all his work. If it wasn't for him my car wouldn't be in the 'better' shape it is today. I hope things work out for you and I wish I had advice for you, but I don't want to say anything without really knowing the extent of your friendship. If it's a real friend it'll all work out is all I can say. If not then take the time and money lost as the price for a life lesson....I think I might have went all afterschool special there for a moment...Good luck regardless.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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IDK if you guys want to check out what happen tonight in CR.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=154450
it was pretty neat to see all those cars together in Cedar Rapids IA
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ice_Wolf
I figured I would post this up for you guys to see.

I was asked recently to work on a RX7 from a friend. Now, I am a degree holding, level 2 Chrysler factory trained technician, and soon to be ASE trained technician. I work at a Chrysler/Jeep/Kia dealership currently, so I work on cars for a living.

The car that I was asked to work on would start but not stay running well or hold an idle. I drove out of my way to fix this car (approximately 2 hours). Keep in mind this is all on my own free time separate from work. I was able to get this car running and idling to get it to my house in order to further diagnose and fix the problem. Turns out the problem was that the intakes were not sealed properly along with a few other problems.

I took the intake pieces to work, de-carbed them, smoothed out the JB weld areas, re-sealed the block-off plates, and removed the studs and completely smoothed and cleaned the gasket surfaces. I re-installed the intakes on the car with new gaskets along with cleaning up a few of the grounds, installing a new exhaust manifold gasket, removing some of the un-needed wiring from the removed accessories, adjusting the TPS, setting the idle, etc. etc. Along with this I performed a complete inspection on the car to see what suspension components needed replaced, leaking seals, etc. as well as replacing the front control arms and front struts,mounting and balancing 4 tires, performing a compression test, and diagnosing a few other problems.

As you can see I had put a good chunk of time into this car for the friend. This was my free time, not work time, and did this all in a couple weeks on the weekends and after work. I didn't mind doing this for the friend because it's stuff I've done before, so it wasn't as hard for me as it might have been for someone else to do. Keep in mind shop time at a dealership is around 90 dollars an hour customer pay and the cheapest price at an independent shop is 40 dollars and that some people will do side work for 20 dollars. I was also nice enough to use my dealership discount to purchase parts and used my own money (expecting to be paid back) to save the friend a good amount of his money. When it was all said and done all I asked for was 200 dollars + the parts I paid for.

I was told that price was outrageous and that I had done a half-assed job. I was told the car came back in worse condition than it was given to me in. Also, when I compression tested the car after getting it running again and able to hold an idle I found that it had low compression on the rear rotor (two small bounces and one high bounce on the compression tester). Apparently this is also my fault too. When the car was first given to me I was scared to drive it due to the ball joints being extremely loose, both front wheels having only 4 lug nuts a piece, and the engine low on compression.

I still have not received payment and the car was picked up a week and a half ago. As this person is/was a friend, I'm not hasty to start insults, legal action, etc. I have been very patient with things thus far but am starting to lose it, seeing as how I went very much so out of my way to work on this car (parts, gas, time) What would you guys do in my situation?
what an asshat, i guess his idea of a "favor" is spending all your time working on his stuff for free, not for cheap. i would burn his face down. He needs to man-up and pay you. What does he think would be a fair price??
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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im about an hour from Iowa city.
i dont know how much i want for it.
not much though.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DiegoRx8
IDK if you guys want to check out what happen tonight in CR.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=154450
it was pretty neat to see all those cars together in Cedar Rapids IA
damn dude, thats crazy... where was all this at?
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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at the 33rd ave Marriott.
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thats pretty sweet, what was the occasion for them to all gather out here?

oops i see its the aka rally now... lol

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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_Wolf
I figured I would post this up for you guys to see.

I was asked recently to work on a RX7 from a friend. Now, I am a degree holding, level 2 Chrysler factory trained technician, and soon to be ASE trained technician. I work at a Chrysler/Jeep/Kia dealership currently, so I work on cars for a living.

The car that I was asked to work on would start but not stay running well or hold an idle. I drove out of my way to fix this car (approximately 2 hours). Keep in mind this is all on my own free time separate from work. I was able to get this car running and idling to get it to my house in order to further diagnose and fix the problem. Turns out the problem was that the intakes were not sealed properly along with a few other problems.

I took the intake pieces to work, de-carbed them, smoothed out the JB weld areas, re-sealed the block-off plates, and removed the studs and completely smoothed and cleaned the gasket surfaces. I re-installed the intakes on the car with new gaskets along with cleaning up a few of the grounds, installing a new exhaust manifold gasket, removing some of the un-needed wiring from the removed accessories, adjusting the TPS, setting the idle, etc. etc. Along with this I performed a complete inspection on the car to see what suspension components needed replaced, leaking seals, etc. as well as replacing the front control arms and front struts,mounting and balancing 4 tires, performing a compression test, and diagnosing a few other problems.

As you can see I had put a good chunk of time into this car for the friend. This was my free time, not work time, and did this all in a couple weeks on the weekends and after work. I didn't mind doing this for the friend because it's stuff I've done before, so it wasn't as hard for me as it might have been for someone else to do. Keep in mind shop time at a dealership is around 90 dollars an hour customer pay and the cheapest price at an independent shop is 40 dollars and that some people will do side work for 20 dollars. I was also nice enough to use my dealership discount to purchase parts and used my own money (expecting to be paid back) to save the friend a good amount of his money. When it was all said and done all I asked for was 200 dollars + the parts I paid for.

I was told that price was outrageous and that I had done a half-assed job. I was told the car came back in worse condition than it was given to me in. Also, when I compression tested the car after getting it running again and able to hold an idle I found that it had low compression on the rear rotor (two small bounces and one high bounce on the compression tester). Apparently this is also my fault too. When the car was first given to me I was scared to drive it due to the ball joints being extremely loose, both front wheels having only 4 lug nuts a piece, and the engine low on compression.

I still have not received payment and the car was picked up a week and a half ago. As this person is/was a friend, I'm not hasty to start insults, legal action, etc. I have been very patient with things thus far but am starting to lose it, seeing as how I went very much so out of my way to work on this car (parts, gas, time) What would you guys do in my situation?
wow where do i start how about with certifiednut you need to watch what you say cause you dont know both sides to the story i have a very good reputation on this forum with selling and buying and most of the guys on the thread will agree with that

now with that said on to cody's rant in the first paragraph he said i asked him to work on my car, after the night he came down we were talking and he offered for me to bring the car up so he could dick with the idle for a day or two, i thought that would be fine so then he comes up with a laundry list of parts that need replaced, i dont know how many times i told him i didnt really care cause the car was just alittle bit of a project so i buy new gaskets and what not and he puts them on, several times during the couple weeks he had it i asked him if i could paypal him some money so parts would be covered, keep in mind he offered to help and never said anything about charging for labor

now on to the motor what cody didnt know was i actually did a compression check to the motor before he had it in his possesion and the comp was good, really good, it is a low milage motor jason, jesse and e dogg can confirm that, then he calls me one night and tells me i have two low compression strokes on the rear rotor he is the only person who has been driving it so how did it get that way? blow it you buy it remember i told you that cody

i dont get to upset i was going to put a ls1 in it anyways so i dont make a big deal out of it, so he claims to have it running good and it holds a idle really well and it needs ball joints i buy the ball joints and new shocks and he said he would put them on again not saying anything about labor and i was still offering to paypal him some money and he refused said it wasnt a big deal, he puts the stuff on and tells me there is a vibration in the front and the brakes are squishy, neither one of those two things were an issue before he had my car.

so then a month goes by and i get tired of this dragging on and call him and tell him im going to pick my car up when i was on my way up he was still messing with the idle

i get in my car to put air in the rear tire (cause cody was to lazy to put a plug in the tire when he had it off the rim and told me he saw it and didnt care) when i pull up to the gas station the idle is bouncing not a big deal i go on my way im going down the interstate and the throttle sticks open to 4 grand i go to hit my brakes and the peddle goes down to the floor, i have to cut off a car and swerve around another to avoid hitting a car cause i have no brakes, after this im really pissed off

so after i get the car home i have no brakes, and find out that both of the lines were cut and leaking fluid, there is a really bad vibration in the front end, there is clunking noises in the front and rear and the idle still wasnt fixed, and now my motor is in need of a rebuild thanks to this level 2 jeep technician

the only problem it had was that it didnt idle now im stuck footing the bill to get these things fixed on my car

i would love to see what would happed if you let a cutomers vehicle go out on the street like this i bet you would be looking for a new job real fast

i have numerous witnesses that can verify the things that were fucked up on my car after i got it back and my fiance can verify i almost crashed on the interstate thanks to this *******

so what would you guys do in my situation?
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this issue needs to be kept to pm's or you can stop being a ***** and call me cody this isnt anyone's problem but your own

im sorry to have to clutter this thread with this bullshit guys im done wasting space in this thread
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what an asshat, i guess his idea of a "favor" is spending all your time working on his stuff for free, not for cheap. i would burn his face down. He needs to man-up and pay you. What does he think would be a fair price??

read up asshat dont jump to conclusions i would love to see you say any of that stuff to my face bring your matches bitch
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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You are such a drama queen, do you think anyone really gives a **** about your problems. My advice grow a pair and take care of it on your own.
For the record you did nowhere near a ASE certified job and frankly im suprised you even have a job. When he got the car back it didnt idle, ride smooth, or have working brakes and you claim your a mechanic.
And another thing, where do you get off charging a ''friend''shop rates, turns out when i help someone i do to help them at NO CHARGE thats what friends do for friends. Oh and certified nut know your role and shut your mouth.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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omg, my new rx7 just got hit lol. it isnt bad but it will need a new fender and headder panel... not like i have that stuff lying around^.^
but at least i will get the rock chips fixed and the cracked clear coat on the head light fixed hehe.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Aww man and you have a header panel??? Dammit thats one of the few extra FB parts I have lol. Hey Zeke, whats the price for your entire shell? I am looking at needing the rear quarter areas AFTER the fender well area. Also needing a driver side door and fender, along with a sunroof panel if you have one... Shoot me a price, but PLEASE DONT CALL ME UNTIL MONDAY as I am in TX and roaming like crazy right now lol.
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roaming is what people do in texas lol. shoot me a pic of what you need and i can make it for you. the accident wanst that bad , just got the edge of the fender and the nose other then that i could push it out myself and fix it for a couple hundy. although i am going to see what an inssurance ajuster will give me. nada on it is at least 2100. the highest estimate i have gotten is 1401. lowest is 1100.
i have a door, roof panel, and fender for you. i will get you pictures. they arent perfect but can be repaired easy with a welder and some time.
still have that rear axle for you lying by the garage... give me a call when you get back.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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so what would you guys do in my situation?
i wouldn't pay him.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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wow where do i start how about with certifiednut you need to watch what you say cause you dont know both sides to the story i have a very good reputation on this forum with selling and buying and most of the guys on the thread will agree with that

now with that said on to cody's rant in the first paragraph he said i asked him to work on my car, after the night he came down we were talking and he offered for me to bring the car up so he could dick with the idle for a day or two, i thought that would be fine so then he comes up with a laundry list of parts that need replaced, i dont know how many times i told him i didnt really care cause the car was just alittle bit of a project so i buy new gaskets and what not and he puts them on, several times during the couple weeks he had it i asked him if i could paypal him some money so parts would be covered, keep in mind he offered to help and never said anything about charging for labor

now on to the motor what cody didnt know was i actually did a compression check to the motor before he had it in his possesion and the comp was good, really good, it is a low milage motor jason, jesse and e dogg can confirm that, then he calls me one night and tells me i have two low compression strokes on the rear rotor he is the only person who has been driving it so how did it get that way? blow it you buy it remember i told you that cody

i dont get to upset i was going to put a ls1 in it anyways so i dont make a big deal out of it, so he claims to have it running good and it holds a idle really well and it needs ball joints i buy the ball joints and new shocks and he said he would put them on again not saying anything about labor and i was still offering to paypal him some money and he refused said it wasnt a big deal, he puts the stuff on and tells me there is a vibration in the front and the brakes are squishy, neither one of those two things were an issue before he had my car.

so then a month goes by and i get tired of this dragging on and call him and tell him im going to pick my car up when i was on my way up he was still messing with the idle

i get in my car to put air in the rear tire (cause cody was to lazy to put a plug in the tire when he had it off the rim and told me he saw it and didnt care) when i pull up to the gas station the idle is bouncing not a big deal i go on my way im going down the interstate and the throttle sticks open to 4 grand i go to hit my brakes and the peddle goes down to the floor, i have to cut off a car and swerve around another to avoid hitting a car cause i have no brakes, after this im really pissed off

so after i get the car home i have no brakes, and find out that both of the lines were cut and leaking fluid, there is a really bad vibration in the front end, there is clunking noises in the front and rear and the idle still wasnt fixed, and now my motor is in need of a rebuild thanks to this level 2 jeep technician

the only problem it had was that it didnt idle now im stuck footing the bill to get these things fixed on my car

i would love to see what would happed if you let a cutomers vehicle go out on the street like this i bet you would be looking for a new job real fast

i have numerous witnesses that can verify the things that were fucked up on my car after i got it back and my fiance can verify i almost crashed on the interstate thanks to this *******

so what would you guys do in my situation?
Alright, I'll play.

I told you that I could replace the intake gaskets for you correctly, which is the reason you brought the car to me in the first place. The reason the car did not run correctly is because you tried to seal the intake gaskets without removing the old gasket and just put RTV on it to try and fix the problem. While I had the car at my shop and on the hoist I inspected it to tell you of things that you should replace so that the car would be in good shape. You mentioned you wanted to auto-cross it etc., and it would be a good idea to replace the broken suspension parts and such to make sure you wouldn't have any problems with the car.

You asked me what I would charge you for doing this and I said that I would not charge much. The reason I didn't take the money from you during working on the car is because I figured you would not have a problem covering a 250 dollar bill. Also, I thought it would be easier to just pay at the end instead of paying 30 dollars here, 20 dollars there over a couple weeks.

I know for a fact you didn't compression test that motor. After I compression tested it and told you the results you were kinda bummed about it. You mentioned nothing at that time about compression testing it before you gave it to me and that you couldn't understand why the motor would be bad since it was supposed to have been low mileage. I specifically asked Eric and a few other rotary members about the results and they said the motor needed a rebuild, which I told you. You then proceeded to ask me about helping you rebuild it in which I replied that I would gladly help you do it. Please don't try to make me look like the bad guy Steve. Also, don't even begin to tell me that I blew the motor in the approximately 200 miles that I drove it. I specifically told you that I never ran the car above 4000 RPM's because I was unsure of the motor's condition. You kept telling me how it would handle 8,000 RPM's without a problem etc., but I myself would never push it above 4,000. I don't beat on cars, I learned that the hard way back when I was 16 and blew my first motor in a previous car I owned.

Also, you didn't buy any new parts for the car besides the gaskets. The rest of the parts were used. I told you it needed ball joints because it in fact did. Any of the technicians that I work with could have told you that. I told you that I had two of the other technicians at work shake down all 4 tires to verify my diagnosis. They ball joints were quite loose, even to the point that I was scared to take it over any large bumps. I also told you that the front shocks were leaking fluid, which they were. You got a set of used ones from Brian and gave me the used control arms and shocks, which i installed for you.

About the brakes - odd how you say they didn't work. I drove the car for 100+ miles after performing the strut replacement and the brakes worked fine, although they were slightly spongy due to needing to be bled. The fluid that was in the brake lines was very very dirty, and the car needed the brakes to be bled, which you said was not a big deal. I also offered to bleed them for you, which is a very simple task with two people. Also, you say that the lines were cut? They were in fact not. If the brakes were bad, you would have noticed at the first stop sign that's a block from my house. You made no indication to me that the brakes were bad until this post. I notified you of the numerous things that were wrong with the car after I gave it back to you - wheel bearings were extremely loose, sway bar links were both shot, rear camber links were both shot also, mis-matched tire sizes and brands, left rear tire completely shot (no tread left at all), and that many other things were wrong with the vehicle.

I also find it hard to see that you are mocking my work so badly. I've been employed at my current dealership for a year now and have had not one problem with my work performed. I've done numerous things on cars - transmission replacements, countless brake and tire jobs, intake gasket replacements, exhaust replacements, electrical wiring fixes, vehicle diagnosis, etc. If you are trying to say that I have no experience doing this and am not certified for the job, you are completely wrong. If I was as bad as you say I am, then I would not have a job at the dealership I am working at. Dealerships maintain a high level of customer satisfaction and job quality and will only employ technicians they feel are capable of handling the jobs and warranty items asked of them.

If you want to continue this, you will answer my phone call next time instead of ignoring it.
Old Aug 21, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Also, if you wish to bring witnesses into this and make this a large problem for many people, I'm sure the technicians and service advisors and manager can vouch for the condition of the car as well as the cop who pulled me over the vehicle's loud exhaust.

Also, next time you give someone a car to fix, please register it and insure it under your name instead of leaving your "friend" hung out to dry. Thank God the officer was nice enough to let me go after explaining to him that it was a project car instead of having to pay a no registration, no insurance, and loud exhaust ticket.



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