Microtech TII Stock Base Maps
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Hey guys. Well i think my microtech might have erased some of my stuff. My fc is running funny. When i got into matrix mode, i noticed that my grid is blank other than values going across the top that say "IDLE" and half way down "LOAD". Everything else is blank. How far off will a map be from stock turbo/2.5inch to a large aftermarket/3inch. Im trying to figure out if i have a tuning issue, or a problem with the car.
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any values that are blank will be read as the values in the load map. so if they are all blank then you are basically running in normal mode rather than matrix. I actually prefer to keep as many of them blank as possible so that its easier to change them all at once on the load map. i only adjust certain areas like the primary/secondary transition and some of the low rpm values.
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^^^i may be very wrong about this, but...my car was doing that too and on a wide band it looked like it was dumping too much fuel at that point so we tokk a little out and it's fine now
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I'm running 750 primaries and 1000 secondaries, T04E 60/1 ar comp and .96 ar turbine, FMIC, Street port, 3" exhaust, 40mm wastegate, 40 psi with fpr. 15lbs boost. I used HIMNI Racings base map and it was a world of difference. Thanks for posting it. I haven't driven the car yet because of rain, but I will soon. When I get the finished tune off the dyno, I will post the final numbers.
I am still not getting the timing others are getting. The closest I can get is 20*btdc. How do I get to 5* atdc?
Also, is it possible for the oil injectors to be injecting too much oil, or maybe I have it hooked up to the wrong vacuum port? It smokes a too much for my taste. When you see a cloud, thats too much. Driving, its not there, sitting at a light, it starts after a while of idling. When its cold, its not there at all. My next move for this is to remove the omp and pre-mix. I don't believe the motors hurt, because their is simply not enough miles on it to be and I haven't driven that hard.
And my a/f ratio on the hand controller says its idling at 11. Is that good?
I am still not getting the timing others are getting. The closest I can get is 20*btdc. How do I get to 5* atdc?
Also, is it possible for the oil injectors to be injecting too much oil, or maybe I have it hooked up to the wrong vacuum port? It smokes a too much for my taste. When you see a cloud, thats too much. Driving, its not there, sitting at a light, it starts after a while of idling. When its cold, its not there at all. My next move for this is to remove the omp and pre-mix. I don't believe the motors hurt, because their is simply not enough miles on it to be and I haven't driven that hard.
And my a/f ratio on the hand controller says its idling at 11. Is that good?
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need a stock base map for 91 13b N/A to save me from having to send this thing to austraula microtech LT10
also anyone know of anytuners in the area of Arkansas or near by states.
also anyone know of anytuners in the area of Arkansas or near by states.
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88 tii s4
microtech lt10 ecu w/ laptop adapter and software to tune
550cc primary injectors 1600cc secondary
supra tt fuel pump
stock turbo
turbo xs bov (loud)
n1 style dual exhaust (loud but sounds good)
fmic
brand new comp diff mount
comp motor mounts
unknown brand FPR
emissions removal (i have most of the parts still though)
plus a few other things im sure im forgetting
does anybody have a map that they could pm me
microtech lt10 ecu w/ laptop adapter and software to tune
550cc primary injectors 1600cc secondary
supra tt fuel pump
stock turbo
turbo xs bov (loud)
n1 style dual exhaust (loud but sounds good)
fmic
brand new comp diff mount
comp motor mounts
unknown brand FPR
emissions removal (i have most of the parts still though)
plus a few other things im sure im forgetting
does anybody have a map that they could pm me
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is that normal?
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LT8 w/ external 3 bar map sensor
s4 rotors
large streetport
60-1 turbo w/ .96 undivided
750 primaries
850 secondaries
FMIC
walbro 255lph
please!! base map? i need my car to move
s4 rotors
large streetport
60-1 turbo w/ .96 undivided
750 primaries
850 secondaries
FMIC
walbro 255lph
please!! base map? i need my car to move
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Ok, so I'm running what I believe to be a stock S4 motor with an S5 turbo, running an LTX-8 unit and using premix. My car would fire but not start, and on the rare occasion it did, it would run rough, blow white smoke all over the place, and stall out real easy. Silver Rotor's map didn't change this much, until I leaned the MIX (from the options menu) out to -25%. The car started at open throttle but wouldn't idle and then promptly stalled. Can someone help? Microtech tuners are hard to come by in the Northeast US.
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Oh, and I also just adjusted the t*rpm setting to 15 degrees at idle and scaled it up to 25 where it peaked in silver rotors map. Still doesn't start but seems more eager.
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Hey pat I may be wrong on this but maybe not... When you do a timing lock and check your timing it's suppose to be at 5 degree's ATDC which means...0 degress is really 5 degree's....and besides if it's not set to 5 degrees and is set to 0 you can always lie to the ecm and retard it with the static...making it possible to run timing ATDC...which for my understanding my renesis runs the leading at 5 degrees ATDC and the trailing at like 15 ATDC
and yeah it can be done..just got to know how the system works and how to alter it.
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I've noticed a few of us have been asking for a given map that one may have In stock format, or simular. So b'c us LT8 owners are unable to zip a map(s) and send It off - I'll just post my stock settings that were sent to me from Microtech themselves. This will help a few to cross-referance their maps, correct what oops that may arise, or even reset It when they receive there unit from another 7, for example.
This Is for a s5 TII stock 550cc FI's. Mods listed at the time of purchase (If this matters) are: big streetport, FMIC, full 3" ss Exhaust no cat, Walbro.
Idle Map
Screen 1
30" ~ 1.33
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.93
15" ~ 2.38
10" ~ 2.48
05" ~ 3.48
00" ~ 4.0
2-20psi ~ 4.95
Load Map
Screen 3
30" ~ 1.76
25" ~ 1.86
20" ~ 1.95
15" ~ 2.24
10" ~ 2.90
05" ~ 3.90
00" ~ 4.81
2psi ~ 5.62
4psi ~ 6.10
6psi ~ 7.14
8psi ~ 7.86
10psi ~ 8.48
12psi ~ ???
14psi ~ 8.71
16psi ~ 9.00
18psi ~ 9.48
20psi ~ 10.00
RPMwot Map Screen 17 &
RPMcrs Screen 18 expressed as a percentage with all values set at zero.
Pump Map
Screen 19
Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 10
Pump1Pulse ~ 02
Pump1Trig ~ 14
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05
Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05
PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00
Water Map
Screen 20
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-1 ~ 55
5 ~ 50
11 ~ 50
18 ~ 45
24 ~ 35
31 ~ 30
38 ~ 20
46 ~ 15
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 8
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Air_t Map
Screen 21
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Crank Map
Screen 22
-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
t*rpm
Screen 23
Idle ~ 00
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25
t*map Map
Screen 24
Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 00
8psi ~ -02
10psi ~ -03
12psi ~ ???
14psi ~ -04
16psi ~ -05
18 psi ~ -06
20 psi ~ -06
t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.
t*gap
Screen 26
0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10
t*Inj Map
Screen 27
0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 180
4000 ~ 180
4500 ~ 210
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270
t*wat Map Screen 28
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.
Option Map
Screen 30
Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.00 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 3000
MAPstg ~ 05"
%stg ~ 50
I hope this helps for the few.
This Is for a s5 TII stock 550cc FI's. Mods listed at the time of purchase (If this matters) are: big streetport, FMIC, full 3" ss Exhaust no cat, Walbro.
Idle Map
Screen 1
30" ~ 1.33
25" ~ 1.48
20" ~ 1.93
15" ~ 2.38
10" ~ 2.48
05" ~ 3.48
00" ~ 4.0
2-20psi ~ 4.95
Load Map
Screen 3
30" ~ 1.76
25" ~ 1.86
20" ~ 1.95
15" ~ 2.24
10" ~ 2.90
05" ~ 3.90
00" ~ 4.81
2psi ~ 5.62
4psi ~ 6.10
6psi ~ 7.14
8psi ~ 7.86
10psi ~ 8.48
12psi ~ ???
14psi ~ 8.71
16psi ~ 9.00
18psi ~ 9.48
20psi ~ 10.00
RPMwot Map Screen 17 &
RPMcrs Screen 18 expressed as a percentage with all values set at zero.
Pump Map
Screen 19
Pump2Start ~ 2000
Pump1Amt ~ 10
Pump1Pulse ~ 02
Pump1Trig ~ 14
Pump1Stop ~ 00
Pump1Adv ~ 05
Pump2Time ~ 10
Pump2Amt ~ 30
Pump2Trig ~ 16
Pump2Stop ~ 00
Pump2Adv ~ 05
PumpDwell ~ 3.00
PumpTimers ~ No
Pump1Sync ~ No
PumpSpare ~ 00
PumpCold ~ 00
Water Map
Screen 20
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 70
-9 ~ 60
-1 ~ 55
5 ~ 50
11 ~ 50
18 ~ 45
24 ~ 35
31 ~ 30
38 ~ 20
46 ~ 15
60 ~ 12
68 ~ 8
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Air_t Map
Screen 21
-25 ~ 0
-17 ~ 8
-9 ~ 6
-1 ~ 5
5 ~ 4
11 ~ 3
18 ~ 3
24 ~ 0
31 ~ 0
38 ~ 0
46 ~ 0
60 ~ 0
68 ~ 0
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
Crank Map
Screen 22
-25 ~ 72
-17 ~ 72
-9 ~ 72
-1 ~ 67
5 ~ 62
11 ~ 57
18 ~ 50
24 ~ 41
31 ~ 31
38 ~ 26
46 ~ 20
60 ~ 15
68 ~ 5
82 ~ 0
99 ~ 0
124 ~ 0
t*rpm
Screen 23
Idle ~ 00
1000 ~ 10
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 20
2500 ~ 25
3000 ~ 25
3500 ~ 25
4000 ~ 25
4500 ~ 25
5000 ~ 25
5500 ~ 25
6000 ~ 25
6500 ~ 25
7000 ~ 25
7500 ~ ??
8000 ~ 25
9000 ~ 25
t*map Map
Screen 24
Idle ~ 00
25 ~ 05
20 ~ 04
15 ~ 03
10 ~ 02
05 ~ 00
00 ~ 00
2psi ~ 00
4psi ~ 00
6psi ~ 00
8psi ~ -02
10psi ~ -03
12psi ~ ???
14psi ~ -04
16psi ~ -05
18 psi ~ -06
20 psi ~ -06
t*air Screen 25
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.
t*gap
Screen 26
0500 ~ 15
1000 ~ 15
1500 ~ 15
2000 ~ 14
2500 ~ 12
3000 ~ 10
3500 ~ 10
4000 ~ 10
4500 ~ 10
5000 ~ 10
5500 ~ 10
6000 ~ 10
6500 ~ 10
7000 ~ 10
8000 ~ 10
t*Inj Map
Screen 27
0500 ~ 120
1000 ~ 150
1500 ~ 150
2000 ~ 150
2500 ~ 150
3000 ~ 150
3500 ~ 180
4000 ~ 180
4500 ~ 210
5000 ~ 210
5500 ~ 210
6000 ~ 240
6500 ~ 240
7000 ~ 270
8000 ~ 270
9000 ~ 270
t*wat Map Screen 28
Correction value Is expressed as number of degrees you wish to advance or Retard to the Ignition curve and values Is set at zero.
Option Map
Screen 30
Af_StE ~ 10
Dwell ~ 3.00 *set at Time Base - not at Duty Cycle*
REVstg ~ 3000
MAPstg ~ 05"
%stg ~ 50
I hope this helps for the few.
im a begginer so if you are running same set up or close to it then feel free to use this map.
i will post a map i have on a 13b t2 on 750ccs primary and 1600 secondary. ltx-8 individual coils stock turbo 15lbs in the afternoon as i have to go through each map. eli
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Can anyone help me with a map?
Mods: 550cc prim 720cc secs, 50mm Turbo .70a/r .86 hotside. Sequential Ignition with 4 MSD 8207 coils, Street Ported. RA Super Seals.
The motor is fresh and runs but its running pretty bad and is destroying gas. Need a lil help. Thanks
Mods: 550cc prim 720cc secs, 50mm Turbo .70a/r .86 hotside. Sequential Ignition with 4 MSD 8207 coils, Street Ported. RA Super Seals.
The motor is fresh and runs but its running pretty bad and is destroying gas. Need a lil help. Thanks
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I'm new to the tuning field, I'm trying to learn. Is there's anyone that can explain the definitions of the rpm*crs etc... I'd appreciate it greatly. Thank you all
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Originally Posted by deejayx757
sweet this thread fucked me over , had my car running alright . daily`d it . threw this basemap on and didnt hold idle for longer then 5 sec ... there goes my ride to work . and i have same set-up s5 big streetport fmic ... 460cc