Well, I've tried to email Jason three times already to get permission (in accordance with Forum guidelines), but his email box is (still) full, so here goes...

This is to announce a group buy of Microtech LT8s and LTX8s.

Details can be seen here.

Brandon

 

OMG I cant hold in my excitment any more.....

AHHH I can finally go to the bathroom.....

DUDE Wheres my car.....

Gone goes the stock ECU.....

MICROTECH HERE WE COME!!!!

 

Guys,

Awesome Deal!!!

usually the kit only comes with a flying loom and you use your standard connectors, im sure they can work something out if the guys want them!!

also the SR20, 4G63 and 93 and EJ20, RB series 6 cyls, Honda 4cyl and just about any other car shouldnt be too much problem as they already have already sold hundreds of these ecu's for these motors im sure they could work a deal for these other computers. there must be honda people left right and centre that would want some.

also there is this yahoo group as well that can help with any questions!

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Microtechecu

Dale

 

Awesome!

 

Hmm. Based on the excitement of the people who responded so far, I assume this is a great deal.

I have not yet taken the time to research ECU's, as it is not on the top of my list of things to do. But I suppose if this is such a good deal, I may have to pick up on it now. Can anyone with familiarity compare this to the Haltech E6K for me so I can understand what it is and whether it is worth snagging this GB for.

Also, for someone like me who hasn't the foggiest idea about setting up the ECU, will there be a good support base for this ECU that I can come and cry to once I admit that I can't figure it out myself?


Thanks.

 

I was looking into a E6K or E11, but this is a pretty good deal. I'd like a little more information on the system than those pages you linked gave. Is there a site that gives a more in-depth description of the Microtech system. I'd like to see screen shots of the software. Windows based or dos based? how many samples per second does it take, and so on......please let me know where to get more info on this...

 

To kind of sum it up, the Haltech E6k is on the same level as the Mircotech LTX-8 it seems. Many people would argue for either unit being better.
I don't know lots about EMS's either, but I know that.
Remember, the Haltech E6k is EXACTLY twice the price though, and in the states Haltech has SHITTY support (in AU and NZ i hear it's great though).

 

The haltech E6K is a bit more "complete" in that it has all the latest whiz-bang features. The Microtech is simpler, cheaper, and easier to tune. Think of it as a "beginner's" EMS. Don't think, however, that it lacks enough functionality to work - there are numerous street cars and 9 sec drag cars (I don't know about road race cars so I won't/can't make that claim, sorry) in Oz that are running the LT series EMS.

For technical specs, I refer you to this article. Keep checking team140.net for updates!!!

Brandon

 

In...

 

If you want in, join the list! Email majordomo@team140.net with nothing but "subscribe microtech <youremailaddress>" in the body (without the quotes or <>s), and send a post to microtech@team140.net

Brandon

 

I will probably be in. Thanks for setting this up and giving us till the 21st.

 

what do you mean by ???

thaanks,
A.L.

 

If you want to email the list, the address is microtech@team140.net, not majordomo - some people have been getting confused. Majordomo is the address that you send "commands" (like subscribe) to.

Brandon

 

The microtech has the same mapping points as the e6k, every 500rpm, the e6k has slightly better resoultion and thats about it,

all but 1 of the 7sec cars are running microtechs, 90% of the 8sec cars are, just about all the 9 sec cars are, and 80% of the street rotors in aus use microtech, 75% of other hypo conversions use microtech's, they are by far the most popular ecu in australia.

AreExSeven

the base map that comes supplied with the ecu will drive the same as the factory ecu and will make more power with out even tuning it, the only thing that will need adjusting is the cold start, i have good base settings for these and can give them to you.

Spool Up

software is in windows, it runs on 95/98/me/nt/2000/xp i have some screen shots, this is the base fuel map for the LTX8 in 2d mode, when switched into the 3d mode you have this map in all 500rpm incrimants.

http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/dheiler/fuel.jpg

more screen shots to come, ill go and do some now of the opening screens etc,
i will get some tonight of the data guages working while im tunning a Subaru.

Dale

 

can i get a wiring a harness for a 13-RE? im going to do this swap down the road. i dont know anything about this system though. but it sounds like a cheaper alternative to a haltec. A link to some more info would be good. i would go with the LTX8 for my conversion.

and whats with this?

"What will likely happen is that I'll have them all shipped to me from Australia, and then will ship them out individually via the USPS."

so we are going to have to go through australia?

 

10 sec rx-7, what is the difference between the MTX-8 and the LTX-8? I seem to remember from my old Fast Fours and Rotary mag's that most rotaries in Australia run the MTX-8, yet the deal if for the LTX-8. What is the best for rotaries?

thanks

 

That's cutting it awfully close for me(time frame, Fed 21st that is)...We'll see if I can in a few weeks.

Michael

 

Dude,

the MTX is a 2d computer and a few years old now, the LTX is a new version on the MTX, full 3d fuel and ignation, 10x the load points, much better computer!
basically the mtx had one load map and then corrections were made to this with wide open throttle corrections and cruse corrections, the LTX has load points every 500rpm, they also have finer injector resoultion as well,

i fitted a LTX to a subaru sti motor in a liberty last weekend, it gets better fuel economy than the standard computer and drives very very well,

i also tuned a haltech f9 fuel only the other week and the microtech far simpler to understand and setup, the haltech really takes a lot of time to tune and get right, with in a hour the subaru was ready for a bigger fuel pump and dyno tuning on big boost.

Dale

 

Yes wiring harness' are avaliable for the 13b re, depending on weather the bloke organising the group buy will get one, i cant see a problem with this but im not organising it,

also another thing to note is if you are going to use a second gen CAS you will have to order a second gen computer, so you need to deciede on what you want to do there,

with the shipping the computers will be sent from AUS to the US then shipped to you, support will be through Jon at RX eng and also on this board.

 

Just to clarify something

all most ALL PR Drag Cars that use Haltech use the "F9"
NOT the E6K..This includes Crispeed and Japtrix

Why cause the E6K has unstable "documented" Ignition
problems on High Boost HP Rotarys


Thats why you see Steve Kan or Ari yallon
just about always break a engine during a race event

Ask Marco Acosta who's car was FEATURED! on Haltech Ad's why he switched after a decade+ on using Haltechs

to Microtech....More reliable=winning races

and I have a E6k on my car right now!
So I'm not biased

 

Wow, Microtech really is starting to sound like the way to go! Thanks for the info 10 sec rx-7!

 

No worries dude,

they are the BEST value for money ECU avaliable on the market, the other good thing about microtech is that they are always willing to help with any questions you have, they have made custom ECU's for me before, like the one i have on my ski boat, its a LT8 with no ignation on it so i could run it with the stupid dizzy that is in it,

dale

 

OK, I have read all the links I can find on the LT and LTX series and it sounds great, BUT I have a daily driver that sees over 100 miles per day. I read a quote from Jon at RX Engineering which says:

The ecu's don't run in closed loop

SO, is my gas mileage going to really suffer? I know the E6K at least has a closed loop mode for better economy.

AND what about activation of Air Conditioning? There is only 1 on and off type output available and may be needed for other things.

If we get the LTX-8 with the Bosch coils, would it be benificial to use an ignition amp, or is the Microtech already got a good output to the coils?

I live where it is just too hot to drive daily to work without air. I NEED a computer that will not get terrible gas mileage (less than stock) and must be able to actuate my A/C. If it can handle these requirements I would be in. Everything else about the Microtechs sounds perfect. I don't see a spec sheet that anwers those questions completely though.

Anyone know?
Greg

 

Greg

closed loop means nothing, perfect example here, subaru wrx, standard computer 300km to tank of gas, after i fitted a microtech and did a rough street tune 380km per tank, thats 80km more just by changing the ecu, it will be better after i tune some more, should get 430 to a tank of gas,
as long as it is tuned right it will be very good on the fuel,

A/c will run fine, i fitted a MTX-8 to a mates nissan 200sx (240z in the us) has a/c and runs fine, the microtech wont control your stepper motor but it will run fine with the air con on,

a mate has a rx3 with 13b turbo, making over 500rwhp on our dynos, which is about 630hp on your dynos, and is just finding the limits, he is fitting a booster (ice ignation) to the leading coils.

it all comes down to the tune, you dont have to be at 14.7:1 on cruse, lean it down, a corolla i have tuned cruses at 17.4:1 no worries, will go a little leaner but not much, i never had the wide band when i was setting the cruse on my mazda but have been told they will cruse up to about 17:1, standard computer would be 14.7:1 so straight up you will be better than stock,

NEW FEATURE ON LT SERIES ECU's

went to microtech to pick up a hand set for the Subaru, and they now have the LT series handsets, these are capable of storing 4 thats right 4 maps on the handset, no laptop required to swap maps, will be so handy at the track, street map on the way there, switch maps over to race trim, and all takes about 30sec to swap over!!! you can also save 4 maps on the laptop dongle!
]even the E11 haltech cant match that!!

Dale

 

Greg.
With the proper tuning you will have much better fuel economy than you have now.I have street 10second 1st gen rx7's with 13b turbo engines that are getting 10litres per 100km which is awesome.
The microtech using the bosch coils wont need an amplifier till you start getting up around the 600Hp at the wheels.I have a car running 11.0afr making 550Hp to the wheels that isn't having a problem lighting the fire!!!
Air con wont be a problem either.The Microtech can be made to run an idle up solenoid but there is no need to.
Any more questions just ask
Jon