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4G63FD

Just another ROTARD speaking out his ***...lol. You guys just dont have a clue man, just stuck in the "rotary is superior" fantasy world. Typical internet gangster that when you meet them on the street or track their car either breaks or runs 12's or slower. Hey, do you buddy, God bless you

Black Hearts

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DSM's are nice cars.. they have plenty of potential.
I got my a$$ handed to me by an evo III on MOD 07'(Mitsubishi owners day) earlier this year. down the 110 freeway, and all he had was a 20g turbo, full exhaust and DSM link. he said he's poutting down 312awdhp

my mods "were" 99' spec twins dp, hfc, hks catback, Power enterprise intakes. and needless to say to put a good amount of car lenghts on me. by the way those 20g turbos sound sick.

SLOASFK

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You can **** on this forum until your pimple like head explodes, but at the end of the day RX-7s are legendary with professional racers and DSMs are legendary with high school seniors.

4G63FD

Internet gangster strikes again..lol. I love you guys man...lol. Take care buddy.

SLOASFK

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I'm an internet gangster because you started agrandizing a mediocre engine and flaming rotaries on an RX-7 site...

You lost this one, go back to dsmtalk where people will actually believe your ramblings.

1RevvinFC3S

Show me a DSM with a strong enough tranny and I MIGHT agree. Yeah, the 4G63 is a great motor. Yes it can make lots of power (if you have the $$$). But all that powerful greatness means NOTHING if the drivetrain can't handle it. Also, nothing like understeer FWD/AWD FTW!!!

4G63FD

Lost what you ****?! You're the only one arguing with yourself. I'm just stating it like it is. You are the ROTARD with some sad devotiion to a motor that doesn't have the R&D behind it like piston motors do. Do you even know anything about motors? Cars? Girls even? You're the one acting like Mazda is paying you commission for your "pro rotory" comments. Dude I dont hate you, you're probably a nice guy. But you're a internet gangster. (someone who's not too smart but ultra tough behind a screen and NORMALLY is a little punk kid living in his mom's basement with a little dick, and is louder than a motorbike but wouldn't buss a grape in a fruit fight...lol) Talk on dude, with all thats going on in my life right now its nice of you to make me laugh.

4G63FD

True. The drivetrain has always been the weak link on DSM's EVO's or most AWD cars for that matter. John Shepard actually made a damn near bulletproof tranny for the AWD DSM's but I'm not a big fan of AWD(only for rally), I dunno I'm old school I guess, love the RWD. Making the 4G63 RWD is an easy affair with Buschur Racing's adapter plate that mate it to any GM tranny. But the motor has been in the sixes for a while now in RWD format with 1100hp and I think Shepard is doing low sevens.

SLOASFK

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I definately act the same in person as I do online. I give respect where respect is due and I pick on friends and people who make it obvious that they are there for a fight.

You don't know what I've done, who I am or what I've been through. You don't know if I bought my car or if my parents bought it. **** you don't even know if I have parents. It's pretty obvious who the e-gangster is.

4G63FD

Calm down dude. I'm not mad at ya. Its dead.

TehMonkay

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Ohh, yeah, fast dsm drag racing what else does it do well? Break?

RX-7s have a history of being great at racing other than drag racing. A DSM is just like a previous poster said

The only thing i've ever seen a DSM do well at is drag racing and getting towed around everywhere.

EVOs on the other hand are decent cars.

So RX-7s have what stickers on the back of them, the ones that list all of their IMSA/GTU Championship years. Rotaries run 6s in the quarter. Rotaries do well at autocross. Rotaries have gone to lemans. Hell even Hondas have a better resume than DSMs do.

A DSM is nothing more in this culture than something equivalent to a Camaro. Pretty much a drag racing icon.

Stix37867

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You are a dick dude! Your calling him an internet gangster(which is the most stupid phrase if ever heard) when you started the name calling first bud. Now that's mature.

Now i've yet to see actual evidence proving that the 4g63 is the "superior". All you've said is
"The motor is the most boost loving, hard hittin',dont wanna break, cheap parts,most versatile(AWD,FWD or RWD), runs like a V12, baddest 4 cylinder motor on the planet."
Now lets see here. The most boost loving motor would be a desiel motor.

I don't even know what "hard hittin'"is supposed to mean. That just sounds like wigger talk.

And "don't wanna break", i don't think so. That would go to honda's and/or N/A rotary's.

"Cheap parts"???? That's probably more like a V8. MUCH more support for them.

"Most versatile". What does that have to do with the motor? That's all about money.

How does a 4g63 run like a V12? That's just ignorant...

Baddest 4 cylinder...No!! A great platform...Yes



Now you do realize that your talking down rotary's on a pro rotary website? What did you think people would say? That they're going to sell there 7's and go out and buy a dsm or an evo. Now sure drag racing's fun. But to use that as your leading arguement is stupid. So what if a 4g63 can run "x" times. For arguement sake, lets put a turn at the end of that quarter mile. What will out-handle and out-brake any dsm????????? That's right, an rx7. And that's why you're supposedly putting a 4g63 in a FD. Much more engineering into the FD than the DSM's.

And you want to know why i think the rotary is a better, not the best, motor than the 4g63? One reason.....because we achieve our powerstroke in half the time. Now to simplify that for you, the rotary is twice as efficient than the piston. Why do you think they banned it from the 24hr Le Mans after it dominated the field, and it even could've went another 24 hours after the motor was torn down and inspected.

So before you go and talk **** to people you don't know and say that rotary's suck, get your facts straight.

sly-sa22c

4G63 the best 4cyl ever? haha fat chance dumbass.

i can think of two off the top of my head.

1) FJ20ET. SOHC, capable of ridiculous numbers on stock internals, would run forever.

a mate had one with a t28 on a custom manifold and some ridiculous fuel setup (i think 1000cc injectors, 040 pre pump and 044 main pump from the surge and was running about 25psi of boost on stock internals. made something like 300kw.

when he got the motor it had 250000km on it. when he finally killed it (boost spiked to over 30psi. boost gauge only went to 30 so we dunno exactly what it did) it had 370000km on it. one damn tough motor.

2) SR20DET. alot like the FJ only DOCH instead of SOHC. a much more refined engine that it still capable of ridiculous amounts of power with relatively few mods.

massive aftermarket, lots of support and endless knowledge of the engine.




now i'm not saying the 4G63 is a bad motor but come on champ, broaden those horizons!!

JustinStrife

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Rotaries don't exactly escape unscathed either.

(Just stirring the pot with everybody as I love watching a good e-fight)

Carry on kids.

4G63FD

True..this really is funny...idiots...lol

1RevvinFC3S

Hey guys, today I was driving around and I saw an RX-7 chillin on the curb when out of nowhere a DSM rolled up and kicked him in the nuts for no reason!!! The 7 was rolling around on the ground and the DSM proceeded to urinate on its face whilst screaming "DSM's CAN'T LOSE BITCH!!!" and ran off killing six babies...









lol, just fueling the fire.

kontakt

LOL Brian, he NAILED you!!!

Take it easy on him... he already has no self esteem because even his parents know he's a worthless pile. Also... I bet he doesn't even know that I'm talking to you, and not him. The sarcasm, for sure, will not get through.

Now where is a good "Who needs a dog when you can walk your crank" picture?

I wonder how long a 4g63 would last in an airplane? 1/10th? maybe 1/100th of what a rotary does? So far as I know the longest lasting "car" engine to be put in a plane is like a 1200 hour motor. There are guys testing certain ceramic seals that are looking to claim a 30,000 hour reliable aviation rotary.

But we're talking about cars, so surely this is irrelevant. It's not like we were talking about swapping powerplants from random sources into random chassis/destinations.

kontakt

I demand pics.

It still pisses me off that my initials are the same as that lame lame concoction that is Diamond Star Motors.

SLOASFK

iTrader: (5)

one of my favs...

adam c

iTrader: (2)

A well set up Eclipse/Talon can be very fast. A neighbor of mine has a mid sized turbo on a built engine. Once tuned, he fully expects 500 awd hp. I believe him. That car is nasty quick. Of course, it won't ever look as nice as an FD

bajaman

There is a pretty goddamned fast Eclipse roaming around Wichita, I know for sure. I raced him and had a bit of trouble with him, actually. I made a post about it somewhere....
https://www.rx7club.com/racing-kills-lounge-10/ran-strong-running-eclipse-today-624689/
Dude was VERY strong even from a roll like this. I seriously think he'd have killed me from a dig. I know I had a good 20mph on the top end but...just OUTRUNNING a car is not necessarily a 'kill'.

hwnd

iTrader: (4)

i own both an fd & dsm;

i built & drove a little shitbox 1g-awd dsm 2.4l.. and i'll have to admit that pos would run (only in a straight line). it'll never compare to driving an well-kept FD.

i'm not so big on any cars pedigree but it'll never happen... a dsm shitbox will NEVER be anything next to an FD. doesn't matter that JShep is running this or that - look at how many DSM's are doing it (one guy).. it just isn't worth it imo.

the ******* dsm's ride and drive like a laundry basket - i've gone through 5 of those pos - they're not worth their weight, period.

i'll say this though, stock bottom end or not - they'll take tons of boost and keep running (500bhp+/-) but they're too fat & gay boys like 'em..

^ just my opinion

2FAST7S

I know of one guy with one of these(laser of all things) that I've been told puts down something like 600 or so hp...I've seen the car run, and it is FAST! I also work with a kid that owns a mildly modded 2g and it feels pretty decent. If he was to spend a few more bucks on it and get it tuned right, it probably will go 11s. He loves the 4g63, 1st gen though. All the others have a slight problem with crank walk. He has a 6 bolt engine in his 2g now and from what he says thats the bulletproof one.

Now on the other side of that, I let a friend go on a joy ride in my n/a fc and a turbo 2g popped up...naturally I wanted to see how my car would do against it. It had a huge coffee can exhaust and who knows what else, but we actually walked it all through 2nd and 3rd...My FC had a few bolt ons but common, spanking a modded turbo car! that felt NICE!

4G63FD

Hey fellas,been busy working on the car, just back to **** you guys off some more with some pics....lol. These guys at MA performance already finished the same project I'm working on(big congrats to them). Yes, DSM's suffer from good motor bad car syndrome. Just like RX7's suffer from good car bad motor syndrome. FINALLY, a real motor other than a V8 under the hood of a Rx7. Dont hate...its the truth....continue arguing, I'll be building my rocket. Stay with your rotary if you like: spending a ton of money and breaking down in front of your girl/wife when you go out, and having no torque, dont wanna "deface" the car with a piston engine(thats the funniest one, like Mazda is paying you or something..lol), and wanna keep losing to piston engines. Take care and be easy. http://www.maperformance.com/gallery...st=19&page=all