Pat McGroin

Ummmmmm let's see after watching that video, I don't know who the gayer one is, especially after hearing the original poster's taste in music...wow.

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classicauto

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umm, so what the f**k am I watching? I see a stereo, a blurry panning of a stereo and then eventually some headlights that kinda get fade away....all accompanied by some type of "music" that I hope I'll never have to go through again....

I've read the thread and it says its a civic kill....but KRIIIKEY man, I can't even see (or hear) a car in that video, save for a car's stereo and a car's headlights

Thumbs down for production value....thumbs up for the kill

Rotory Revalution

yeah vid was low quality nt tho....for the civic arguments that ive been reading for awhile (besides the full built money machines) at least where i live get owned by my brothers ford probe yes u herd correct a FORD PROBE. he dose have very minor mods as well as the kids that he races. for instance full monza 2 1/2 pipe with hi flow cat, cold air,short shifter and thats it. he beats all hondas with the same if not more mods excluding forced induction. but the obviouse nsx and s2k he has not raced but would probly get owned.now for the fun part with just those mods in a street drag he was able to beat a new rsx type-s by half a car, but soon lost to one that had a light weight fly wheel and possibly spraying(there happens to be a blue one in the area that sprayes) go figure he has a mazda power plant in there.(no klz-e if u where wondering)

jic

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vid was terrible

H22a/13bt

until the FG2's stepped up in the club haha

speedjunkie

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Did you record that video yourself while you were driving? Good to see you still got him, but I'd take along another person to tape it, haha.

BlkS5TII

Yep, now they put in an LSD in an attempt to compensate for the degraded suspension geometry. Too bad the older Civics will still be the better track cars in the end, and that's not saying much.

DMoneyRX-7

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Ok you guys, looking back I don't think I should have said "gay civic" but the owner of the civic really gets my whitey tighty's in a wad with his ignorance and stubbornness.

Sorry about the video. I didn't know I was gonna race that night and only had my cell phone. My passenger who weighed about 200lbs filmed it.

So I raced him again after he spent about $600 more on it and beat him from a stop. He had already marked off a quarter mile. So we start, turns out he can launch very good. I can't....so I spun out in 1st gear, 2nd gear, and fishtailed 3rd gear up until about 6800rpm. Ended up catching and passing in 3rd, shifting to 4th when he was at my door then ended with him about 1 1/2 or 2 car lengths behind. I can't remember. Either way I didn't even reach my full 10psi of boost. BTW this was all before I had my mp. I was laughing once we were done because of how far behind I was when I was spinning out. Everyone of my friends who were watching were laughing. Even my passenger who weighs about 170lbs was laughing. Especially when we passed.

So proving that I could still win from a dead stop with his superior launching skills and me spinning out from 1-3rd I think he was kinda disappointed.

So I raced him his way now he had to race me my way. We decided on a 40 roll. Staying even up until the start of the 1/4 mile then once we hit it I decided to not punch it. I waited about 2 seconds then floored it as I started in 2nd. Passed him on my shift to 3rd and finished in 4th with about 4 car lengths ahead even after I let off the accelerator.

Now he has spent about $1k-$2k, maybe more on alot of internal upgrades. Pistons, cams, repairs, new stage 3 exedy clutch, idk what all you can do to those things. But keep in mind he has a b20 or some ****. With an already chipped ECU with higher flowing injectors.

I now have a midpipe. I'm ordering my 1300cc injectors either tonight or sometime this week. Then tuning soon for 15psi.

Him and his brother will not stop talking ****. Saying how I like picking on lil civics and what not. The truth is I can't ever find a race on the street because every time someone pulls up to me and I jump ahead in 3rd to kinda show I'm not messin around they back off. But him and his brother who also owns a civic won't stop talking noise. So I'm going to finish my engine out. Then run him with his new upgrades but I'm gonna just run at 10psi to prove a point. If he beats me, I'll give him his props. Then I'll put some money on it, turn up the boost and beat him ....badly.

I have a new sony handycamm so I will be able to get a nice video of it. Oh it will be in the daytime as well. I always race him after school. BTW this is on a very long,straight, paved, and desolate road. It connect 2 major highways but no one ever travels on it. Especially the part we run on. Just in case anyone was going to say anything about safety.

JustinStrife

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Not saying all, but I do notice most civic owners around here, have the Napoleon complex. Use to get picked on all the time with my stock S14 240sx, but when I changed over to the older S13 style and did an SR20 swap with the full bolt-ons, they mysteriously decided that big *** FMIC behind my silvia bumper was too scary for them.

They never bothered the FD. Nor the C5. I guess out here, they tend to know their limits a little better...

rx7henry

Haha, I own an rx-7 but tell me why is it that you need to use Mazda's flagship car to compete against Honda's little econobox?

Please, I am looking for only legitimate answers and not ignorant replies or dumb-*** repsones, or personal attacks at me. I don't know what some of you FD owners are thinking when you sucuumb to racing, in the words of many owners here, "a gay *** civic".

What are you trying to prove? Your factory twin turbocharged, rotary, rwd sports car will beat a fwd, 4 banger? Why don't you go out and race a kia or daewoo.

Even then, a mildly built and tuned b20vtec can bring you back 11-12 second timeslips all day long without any forced induction. Impressive? you may not think so, but you could never do it in a naturally aspirated 2 rotor.

And for the ones that say Hondas aren't true sports cars, here: http://www.hondaracingf1.com/en/inde...id=1&year=2006. They are competing with and beating some of the best in the industry.

Flame if you must, but I'm not the one that just sits behind the computer screen speaking out of hatred.

DMoneyRX-7

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its not hatred, it is that a most civic owners think that their car is not an econo box but actually a sports car that is comparable to the FD or rx-7. It makes us mad that the average joe bag can spend 2k on a civic, put in 5k on mods alone and they think they should have the respect of a sports car owner that spends 10-20k on a FD, then 10k on mods and maintainence.

I race the civic owners because I want them to know that they aren't the hottest stuff. I don't even go out looking for a race with them. If I see a car on the street that I think is worthy of respect and props then I make a point to give the owner praise.

Rx7henry, its not that I need to, it is that they are asking for it. And I happily accept. What am I to do, say, "na....then have a civic owner saying how some guy with a FD backed out" I can't have that going on in this world.

JustinStrife

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Doesn't matter how fast you make these civics. They're still not sports cars. An S2000 I believe, qualifies as a sport's car(though it might be called a roadster instead?), but not a civic, not an accord, and not an integra.

Maybe you should look up the dictionary on sport's car.

Just a thought. From an owner that owns 2 sports cars, and one sports compact car that performs like a sport's car, but is still an imitation.

rx7henry

I see where you're coming from. I just love fast cars in general and own several different manufactures and they each excel in areas that the others are less adequete. It just sucks going to a forum that talks down to the others. I am glad you beat those poorly fixed up civics, but there are a lot of reputable ones out there too.

rx7henry

Okay, civics and integras aren't exactly direct competition to FD's, but to have them running the times some are capable of is not any harder than it is achievable. I know what a sports car is. Hondas NSX is a fine example of a pure race bred. The civic and integra only employ vtec & such technology to showcase what their engineering is capable of. Sure, you can rev the race built 2.4 liter v8 honda F1 to 19,000rpms, but they have managed to create engines that produce over 100hp per liter, and thats something I would think you rotary heads can relate to.
They could have squeezed more power out of these suckers too from the factory, but variable valve and cam timing does wonders with emissions as well as mpg achieved. Just something to think about next time you want to place them on top of your **** lists.

speedjunkie

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I'm not very well educated on B20's, but what is your definitition of MILD? A friend of mine had a CRX with an H22, and he had to put what sounded like $10K into his engine just to get 11-12 sec timeslips while still being NA. I don't remember what all he had done, but it just doesn't seem like a wise investment to me. But then I'm sure an FD doesn't seem like a wise investment to someone that can buy a Lambo, haha.

DMoneyRX-7

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I could deal with civic owners as long as they give respect when it should be given. The dude's brother that I raced was disrespecting me because of how much money I put into the car and how much it cost.

Mura

lol....i'm still laughing at this part, cause it's so true.

tubbs*prtlnd

I don't think its right to call a civic owner gay because of what he drives. Stereotyping is stupid. I also don't agree with somebody saying its impossible for a civic to qualify as a sports car. Those hatches come with double wishbone suspension and close to 100hp/litre stock form... Plus a FD RX-7 is a 15k+ purpose built sports car that is more expensive used than most NEW honda civics. Someone who is looking for a cheap project car in high school/college that they can work on and drive is not going to look into an FD RX-7... remember, CHEAP. You probably come from a rich family if you DD a modified FD in high school.

You say that the civic owner has done just about everything to his car you can do without boosting it. A complete all motor b20vtec build like that probably cost him $6k+. Even with the price of that together with the civic shell means he still falls way short of the kind of money that it would take just to buy a stock used FD.

At this point I'm going to tell you that I drive an Integra GSR... the rich man's civic. Which I picked up for $2400. I'm a huge fan of RX-7s, but being that I'm still a high school and work on the weekends washing dishes at a local restaurant, I don't have the money I would want to put into any rotary project. I decided to go with a honda because it is reliable, cheap and good on gas.

I visit vwvortex, honda-tech, sr20forum and the subi forums regularly because I have friends who drive all those brands and I've found that by far, the most closeminded people are found on RX-7 club. Whether talking about hondas, domestics, or LS1 swapped 7s... I still love 7s and everything rotary, but it'd be nice to see some respect shown for all people who build they're cars to be faster, no matter what the brand or car.

apex_sideway

I love Hondas

Reliable, Sporty, and Cheap. A Civic SI with some suspension mod's and some breathing mods is a fun car to daily drive . . . i wouldn't mind picking up one.

Roen

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A civic does not qualify as a sports car, not because of the stereotypes or the fact that it has double a-arms, but because of the objective definition of a sports car. It's the same reason why the RX-8 is not considered a sports car.

MARTIN

Lol I love this hatred towards civics and owners... Im so fukin glad I sold all my **** and barely post in this ******* forum. First of all, lsd is an extremely important mod if you want to actually turn with a FWD. And yes they included it in the fg2 with a ton of other ****. Just like the motor than can actually handle some power in stock form and still be realiable unlike the rotary. There are honda motors out there with 250k+miles on them, can you even pick up an fd or fc w/o a rebuild or needing a rebuild shortly? uhh no.. ****, you cant even pick up a jspec motor w/o rebuilding it.. Motors that are advertised to have 30k miles.

And you cocky fd owner, you feel special cus you spent 6-10k on an fd? Lol and you are there competing with n/a hondas... Please man I could trade in my civic and pick up 3 fd's, but I wouldnt want to deal with the ****** headaches again... The funny part is that you feel superior to others cuz you spent w.e. money you did on your car.. No one gives a ****. It just makes it a sad story because you listen to gay *** music and race slow n/a cars..

And yes, no FF is considered a sports car and shouldnt. Most imports fall under sportcompacts. But just because they are not the same doesnt mean that one is superior to another.

and yes I agree that rx7club is closeminded as ****. The reason behind it is little kids with busted as fc's and little spoiled kids with fd's thinking they own the world because they drive an rx7.... And for those of you that follow racing, hasn't padilla gotten his *** kicked by hondas?

MARTIN

double post

speedjunkie

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Nope, I feel special cause you don't see an FD every time you turn your head like you do a Civic, just like you also see a Mustang just as much. I wouldn't say that makes me cocky though. If I could get my hands on a good FD for only 6-10K I'd , maybe that's why you had so many headaches, if that's how little you got yours for, haha. I got mine for 10K actually, and I've had a few problems but overall she's been pretty good to me.

MARTIN

I was talking to the OP... And yea, they are rare but so is a old school buggy or a carrado(which I love) and supras and mr2's... Theres a bunch of rare cars out there, but that doesnt mean ****. I bought my car because it has a ton of features @ a good price and the gas is great... Plus the motor is basically bullet proof... I like my car and I love rotaries, but being with them so long you get to know the truth about them... Wanna go fast, you gotta be prepared when it blows, wanna have one as a daily and last, then keep it stock..