Ok here are the cars, mine all stock except no cats, and his a white 92-95 honda civic not sure what kinda engine but it was turboed and lowered, lip kit all around and usual riced stuff...Now the little battle....Well it just got done raining out and I was with a friend on our main street. And I stop at a stop light and this civic pulls up but he isnt being cocky. So I just take off normal and I get ahead...I hear him down shift into second so I leave it in third and floor it (around 3-4K rpm) he catches up a little bit and then I start to pull away. Then farther down the road he just goes flyin by like a normal honda loser would acting like he won. I got the confermation that his car was really boosting oh well I still won. My friend and I were both laughing our asses off at him expecially after we found out it was turboed. I could tell he was really tryin too. I thought it was a good kill and tell me what your thoughts on it are ok.

 

Something was terribly wrong with his car, i absolutely destroyed an N/A S4 on 8psi with my compression lowered to 8.5:1 and a slipping clutch. If it were a stock Civic i might believe it, they're rated at around the same quarter mile.

 

BS, boosted Civic vs near stock RX-7?

 

I think it's possible. Come on, think about how many tubro'd ricer hondas are out there that are either not built worth a ****, or has some idiot kid that doesn't know how to drive behind the wheel. I say good job!

 

Thanks someone belives me and if I had a video I would definatly post it but I dont have a video and I the type of motor I think it has is like the smallest motor. I think it was a D15 or something not a B16.

 

Probably had turbo sound effects or something, even a boosted D15 should take a stock N/A.

 

i don't know a boosted d15 w/ bolt ons would be running maybe 160whp vs an n/a he doesn't have much of an advantage and he has turbo lag and a potential traction issue.

 

Turbo lag? But what happens when he boosts? With good tires he would be able to to launch.

Eh, I like how the poster keeps removing mods for this guy's car. Like the D15. Who turbos a 1.5 d-series? Or really wastes their time with a d-series (no offense Q).

 

I waste my time with a D-series.

 

there are plenty of people turboeing them. the reason why its worth it is because the blocks can be had for cheap, so people slap tbird 48/60's on them and go to town. the hughest on stock internals was around 300. this was with very very very very good tuning at around 15 psi.

 

My friend has a turbo D15 running a stock probe turbocharger (tiny as hell). My vert was running at tip top condition with the non-turbo engine and he destroyed me (yes we both know how to drive). That guy either A) could not drive the civic B)he was spinning the tires the whole time he was racing you C) you are bsing. My buddies runs a 14.56 with 7psi, thats quite a bit faster than a stock rx7.

 

i dont even think the Civic was trying

i know i know it is a civic but the poster and him never ' officially ' raced they didnt line up or anything they just both left the stoplight like normal with him ' pulling ' away in low prm 3 rd gear
im sorry i love the 7 as much as the next owner but a lighter car with as much or better hp ( since it was turboed ) it jsut doent add up

 

Stock for stock, my mom's 1993 Civic LX sedan kept up evenly with Tofuball's 1986 GXL... I got maybe a fender ahead. That's a big "maybe".

Problems with each car:

Mine (1993 Civic LX 4 door sedan, D15B7 16 Valve SOHC 1.5L I4, 5 speed):
1.) Free cold air intake mod means the air filter clogs up twice as fast.
2.) It hasn't seen a tune-up, including air filter for 30K miles, at least. Carbon fouled plugs and a clogged air filter don't seem like good power adders.
3.) Dead shift bushings. in gear, it feels like it's in neutral. In neutral, it feels like a stick in a bucket of water. (I can't shift mad quick y0. )
4.) Four ******* doors.

NOTE: When I last did the tuneup. I did the tuneup for my style driving, meaning I bumped the heat range of the plugs down one notch. (There's two specs under the hood. One for normal driving, one for more high speed or hot climate driving.) I did mostly highway driving and shift at 5K... My mom is a 60 yr old lady. She drives to and from work, never exceeds 55, and shifts at 2.5K RPM. Those plugs are toast, even though they're 30K miles old.

Tofuball (1986 RX-7 GXL 2+2, 13B N/A, 6 port, 5 speed):
1.) Hauling a transmission in the hatch.
2.) 6 ports not moving freely.
3.) He weighs more than I do. (Excuses, excuses. I can't help it if I'm skinny. )

Turboed Civic versus a fully functional, non pig heavy version of the N/A RX-7... (How much do all the GXL options weigh anyhow? I wonder how they compare to the LX options in the Civic... Same type of options anyhow... Power windows, locks, mirrors, etc.)

He coulda been like one of my coworkers who thought the bigger the turbo, the better... Slapped something HUGE on his Civic and ran the oil line between two of the exhaust runners. Hooked the turbo up to a bent and mangled Starion intercooler behind a mostly bondoed body kit...

Or it could have been in intelligently designed turbo setup with a wideband and standalone that had been dyno tuned and set for optimal performance.

I'd lean towards the former.

If it had altezzas, blue headlights, ANY stickers, or windshield nozzle lights, you should get slapped for wasting your time and fuel.

 

You forgot to mention, about my GXL, that there are some SEVERE things wrong with it :p

 

6 ports... What else? I thought you fixed the coolant temp sensor and we dialed the timing dead on right after...

 

Your co-worker is legally retarded, oil-line between the manifold?? A gxl is the pig of the 86's, even a shitty turbo setup put together by your co-worker would be able to beat a stock n/a. The best time I've ever seen a stock n/a run (aux removed actually) was a 15.1, and that was a 2600lb base model in perfect condition with a really good driver.

 

Well you guys dont have to belive me, I pulled on him and I talked to people that know him and they say that it is turboed. But they say his car is still slow. Would it help any if it wasnt intercooled cuz it isnt. Im not sure what was goin on but when he went after me I punched it and he caught up then started to fall back slowly. Anyway no one seems to belive eachother on this Kills Section anyway.

 

if it wasnt intercooled then it must of been boosting like 2-3 psi if that

 

I belive you, I have no reason not to. :P

Don't worry about the random people posting that they dont belive you, if it happend, it happened.

Especially with Hondas, I'm inclined to belive the owner did something to really screw it up. I'm a firm beliver in the ricers ability to screw up a faster car so that a much slower car can beat it, either by mucking mechanically or electrically with the car itself, or by being a really crappy driver.

I mean, comon, I once held up against a riced out '99 Mustang GT in an unmodded MKI MR2!


... Well, there is some stuff I'm just never going to believe, like one of my friends tells me he beat a Viper on a streightaway in his Tracel.

 

Your right. If it happened it happened. And it happened and thats that.