2006 Civic Si Vs. 1990 Modded N/A
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and yes I have seen the BMI vid with the White NSX-R, nice vid. All the cars loose him on the straights, but when it comes down to braking and turns, the NSX takes over.
But that's besides the point, it's not as S2000 is it? nor an Evo.
I like how throughout this thread you change the subject and bring up other cars that are supposedly yours. I got an idea howabout we just skip all that and compare a Lotus Exige to Geo Prizm!
But that's besides the point, it's not as S2000 is it? nor an Evo.
I like how throughout this thread you change the subject and bring up other cars that are supposedly yours. I got an idea howabout we just skip all that and compare a Lotus Exige to Geo Prizm!
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Originally Posted by H22a/13bt
HAHA Thank you.
He says eveyone see's our ignorance, while he is the ONLY person posting and boasting and trying to proove the point he will never have. And dude how many cars do you have? An S2000, and Evo damn man. Hey I suggest if you can afford all these cars, go out and buy the Si
And to your post if they K ius so much better than why isn't it getting sooo much more power when modded, see that's the issue here, it IS!!!!
Did you totally blow off S2's K drag car....9.74 @139mph i believe the ETA was.
I'm not giving you the specs again. It makes way better power gains off modifications than the F. IT IS A FACT! So accept it, stop posting and you won't get corrected all the time. It's that easy.
You get MORE for your money with the Si, PERFORMANCE AND FEATURES, it's an all around BETTER CAR! Speaking of which which car made C&D car of the year? I didn't see your little S2K up there did I? So stop.....now
He says eveyone see's our ignorance, while he is the ONLY person posting and boasting and trying to proove the point he will never have. And dude how many cars do you have? An S2000, and Evo damn man. Hey I suggest if you can afford all these cars, go out and buy the Si
And to your post if they K ius so much better than why isn't it getting sooo much more power when modded, see that's the issue here, it IS!!!!
Did you totally blow off S2's K drag car....9.74 @139mph i believe the ETA was.
I'm not giving you the specs again. It makes way better power gains off modifications than the F. IT IS A FACT! So accept it, stop posting and you won't get corrected all the time. It's that easy.
You get MORE for your money with the Si, PERFORMANCE AND FEATURES, it's an all around BETTER CAR! Speaking of which which car made C&D car of the year? I didn't see your little S2K up there did I? So stop.....now
You talk about 300whp n/a, and I've heard you for the millionth time. The F series is capable of the same, and then much more when boosted. You keep telling me that the K is better, so why isn't it making any better power? Go ahead and keep ignoring the fact that S2k's are now making the same power with equal mods.
I thought you don't care about drag? That K drag car only makes 300whp being nothing but a shell and having a SOLID rear end are all that make it go fast. Good luck getting that around the turns that you claim to be all about. What is all this power you talk about? I already told you that S2k's are making AT LEAST the same power that you are so proud of from the same bolt-ons. Why do you keep ingoring that?
What car C&D chooses to make car of the year is irrelevant. Mags are worthless, which is shown by how R&T says that the new GTI is better than the new Si (I disagree with them). They're all just opinion. How about we go back to what's been proven on the track, which you started this whole crap about?
Track car or all around performance car: S2k > > > > > > > > > Si
Needing to carry 3 passengers AND groceries: Evo >>>>>>>> Si LOL
I guess you can't even win the best grocery getter award. Oops, I brought up another car.
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
You talk about 300whp n/a, and I've heard you for the millionth time. The F series is capable of the same, and then much more when boosted. You keep telling me that the K is better, so why isn't it making any better power? Go ahead and keep ignoring the fact that S2k's are now making the same power with equal mods.
I thought you don't care about drag? That K drag car only makes 300whp being nothing but a shell and having a SOLID rear end are all that make it go fast. Good luck getting that around the turns that you claim to be all about.
Track car or all around performance car: S2k > > > > > > > > > Si
Needing to carry 3 passengers AND groceries: Evo >>>>>>>> Si LOL
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Why you keep comparing the civic to cars in other leagues... Unless you want me to add the price difference to the si, there is no point in comparing.. $300 and I took an evo,sti,srt4,lightning and 13sec hatch... So imagine $10k...
I guess you can't even win the best grocery getter award. Oops, I brought up another car.
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
I dont need a $30k grocery getter that a civic can take with a $300 upgrade... LOL..
BTW Evo IX's with the same mod as mine trap 109mph. Good luck with that.
I brought up the Evo because I was going to say that the Civic is good for what space it has, but then I realized that I already have a car that can do all that plus more. I guess price really matters to you guys, so why haven't you bought SRT4s?
How are those records for stock internals relevant? Wouldn't the record stop wherever the owner felt like pushing the stock internals to? Otherwise it would be a very expensive game of trial and error. Are there any 850whp Ks?
What would you bet is faster from a dig? The 590whp RWD car or the 636whp FWD car?
08-17-06, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
What am I boasting about? I'm saying that the S2k > Civic Si, and pointing out that it shows through all the actual recognition it has received from the racing community. Just because I have the car is not why I'm defending it. I don't have an NSX, but to say it's garbage is just retarded, so I had to defend one of the greatest sports cars of our time. How do I keep bringing up other cars? You must not be reading the same thread that I am, which shows by how full of **** your responses are. At least MARTIN has shown SOME intellect.
You talk about 300whp n/a, and I've heard you for the millionth time. The F series is capable of the same, and then much more when boosted. You keep telling me that the K is better, so why isn't it making any better power? Go ahead and keep ignoring the fact that S2k's are now making the same power with equal mods.
I thought you don't care about drag? That K drag car only makes 300whp being nothing but a shell and having a SOLID rear end are all that make it go fast. Good luck getting that around the turns that you claim to be all about. What is all this power you talk about? I already told you that S2k's are making AT LEAST the same power that you are so proud of from the same bolt-ons. Why do you keep ingoring that?
What car C&D chooses to make car of the year is irrelevant. Mags are worthless, which is shown by how R&T says that the new GTI is better than the new Si (I disagree with them). They're all just opinion. How about we go back to what's been proven on the track, which you started this whole crap about?
Track car or all around performance car: S2k > > > > > > > > > Si
Needing to carry 3 passengers AND groceries: Evo >>>>>>>> Si LOL
I guess you can't even win the best grocery getter award. Oops, I brought up another car.
You talk about 300whp n/a, and I've heard you for the millionth time. The F series is capable of the same, and then much more when boosted. You keep telling me that the K is better, so why isn't it making any better power? Go ahead and keep ignoring the fact that S2k's are now making the same power with equal mods.
I thought you don't care about drag? That K drag car only makes 300whp being nothing but a shell and having a SOLID rear end are all that make it go fast. Good luck getting that around the turns that you claim to be all about. What is all this power you talk about? I already told you that S2k's are making AT LEAST the same power that you are so proud of from the same bolt-ons. Why do you keep ingoring that?
What car C&D chooses to make car of the year is irrelevant. Mags are worthless, which is shown by how R&T says that the new GTI is better than the new Si (I disagree with them). They're all just opinion. How about we go back to what's been proven on the track, which you started this whole crap about?
Track car or all around performance car: S2k > > > > > > > > > Si
Needing to carry 3 passengers AND groceries: Evo >>>>>>>> Si LOL
I guess you can't even win the best grocery getter award. Oops, I brought up another car.
once again contradicting yourself. K20's make more power those are cold hard facts...How can I possibly ignore something when it isn't even true. And don't sweat MARTIN...we are trying to tell YOU that you ARE wrong about the K..
K is just plain better than F sorry to break it to you. And I brought up that Skunk2 Honda as a comparison.... If F's make the same power WHILE being RWD and lighter chassis to start with....why dont you see any of those running 9's all motor????????????? That's ****** right...you CAN'T so stop posting, you're posts are worthless and you will always be wrong. Ok we already know the Civic is an inferior "sports" car SO what, thats a different topic. We are talking about the capability and for the money what you get, and can do to these vehicles....to match the price of a new S2000. add 10,000 to the Civic...EVEN price...
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Originally Posted by H22a/13bt
hmm i guess i didn;t really read the post about how u were so proud about your statement, "S2000's are hitting 270whp now! ooooh"
once again contradicting yourself. K20's make more power those are cold hard facts...How can I possibly ignore something when it isn't even true. And don't sweat MARTIN...we are trying to tell YOU that you ARE wrong about the K..
K is just plain better than F sorry to break it to you. And I brought up that Skunk2 Honda as a comparison.... If F's make the same power WHILE being RWD and lighter chassis to start with....why dont you see any of those running 9's all motor????????????? That's ****** right...you CAN'T so stop posting, you're posts are worthless and you will always be wrong. Ok we already know the Civic is an inferior "sports" car SO what, thats a different topic. We are talking about the capability and for the money what you get, and can do to these vehicles....to match the price of a new S2000. add 10,000 to the Civic...EVEN price...
once again contradicting yourself. K20's make more power those are cold hard facts...How can I possibly ignore something when it isn't even true. And don't sweat MARTIN...we are trying to tell YOU that you ARE wrong about the K..
K is just plain better than F sorry to break it to you. And I brought up that Skunk2 Honda as a comparison.... If F's make the same power WHILE being RWD and lighter chassis to start with....why dont you see any of those running 9's all motor????????????? That's ****** right...you CAN'T so stop posting, you're posts are worthless and you will always be wrong. Ok we already know the Civic is an inferior "sports" car SO what, thats a different topic. We are talking about the capability and for the money what you get, and can do to these vehicles....to match the price of a new S2000. add 10,000 to the Civic...EVEN price...
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
The Skunk2 car is an all out n/a drag car. They didn't want to waste an S2k on that. Capability for the money? I can build a $20k Fox body that would whoop the **** out of any other car in the straights or the turns. Price is completely irrelevant when you are trying to talk about which is the better car. I can probably find an FD for $10k and add another $10k then which would be better? I can find a $300 CRX and add $19700 to that and see which is the better car. WHAT DOES PRICE HAVE TO DO WITH SEEING WHICH CAR IS BETTER?
-----So??? You're right they sure didn't want to waste that S2K, because they are smart enough to know that the F's can't quite muster the power for those times all motor you moron!!! Hey it's a RWD F-series too shouldn't that help it? WTF right?! I haven't even seen or heard of any FI's ones run those times either! Dead serious
2. I can build a $20k foxbody that would whoop the **** out of any other car in the straight's or the turns.
----No, you can't. You've shown me that you are not smart enough to even know how to open a drawer full of Craftsmans. Secondly, about the F-body.... there you go bringing up other cars, that's my proof if you want to deny you do any of the things I say you do in every post.
Oh and if you find a $300 CRX, and put almost $20k into it. Let me behind the wheel of that monster because I would laugh at fully built and FI'd S2000's no matter what they are built for.
Let it go man....seriously....take a nice deep breath, then sign off. Oh and by the way you're mom made you some P&J sandwhiches cut up all nice and small just how you like 'em
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Originally Posted by H22a/13bt
1. The Skunk2 car is an all out n/a drag car.
-----So??? You're right they sure didn't want to waste that S2K, because they are smart enough to know that the F's can't quite muster the power for those times all motor you moron!!! Hey it's a RWD F-series too shouldn't that help it? WTF right?! I haven't even seen or heard of any FI's ones run those times either! Dead serious
2. I can build a $20k foxbody that would whoop the **** out of any other car in the straight's or the turns.
----No, you can't. You've shown me that you are not smart enough to even know how to open a drawer full of Craftsmans. Secondly, about the F-body.... there you go bringing up other cars, that's my proof if you want to deny you do any of the things I say you do in every post.
Oh and if you find a $300 CRX, and put almost $20k into it. Let me behind the wheel of that monster because I would laugh at fully built and FI'd S2000's no matter what they are built for.
Let it go man....seriously....take a nice deep breath, then sign off. Oh and by the way you're mom made you some P&J sandwhiches cut up all nice and small just how you like 'em
-----So??? You're right they sure didn't want to waste that S2K, because they are smart enough to know that the F's can't quite muster the power for those times all motor you moron!!! Hey it's a RWD F-series too shouldn't that help it? WTF right?! I haven't even seen or heard of any FI's ones run those times either! Dead serious
2. I can build a $20k foxbody that would whoop the **** out of any other car in the straight's or the turns.
----No, you can't. You've shown me that you are not smart enough to even know how to open a drawer full of Craftsmans. Secondly, about the F-body.... there you go bringing up other cars, that's my proof if you want to deny you do any of the things I say you do in every post.
Oh and if you find a $300 CRX, and put almost $20k into it. Let me behind the wheel of that monster because I would laugh at fully built and FI'd S2000's no matter what they are built for.
Let it go man....seriously....take a nice deep breath, then sign off. Oh and by the way you're mom made you some P&J sandwhiches cut up all nice and small just how you like 'em
1. Meh...I wouldn't want to see an S2K go down as a drag car. It is so much more car than that. It is a touge monster...a track monster...drag means nothing in the world of the S2K. Civic's can't compete...
2. Haha, with your little PB&J comment, it shows me that your about as smart as a brick wall. Dude, you seem to have a very, very small brain...now, go climb into your grocery getter, and go attack some twisties! Hahahahahahahahaha!
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
Civics run 12's with a $300 upgrade? LOL
BTW Evo IX's with the same mod as mine trap 109mph. Good luck with that.
I brought up the Evo because I was going to say that the Civic is good for what space it has, but then I realized that I already have a car that can do all that plus more. I guess price really matters to you guys, so why haven't you bought SRT4s?
How are those records for stock internals relevant? Wouldn't the record stop wherever the owner felt like pushing the stock internals to? Otherwise it would be a very expensive game of trial and error. Are there any 850whp Ks?
What would you bet is faster from a dig? The 590whp RWD car or the 636whp FWD car?
BTW Evo IX's with the same mod as mine trap 109mph. Good luck with that.
I brought up the Evo because I was going to say that the Civic is good for what space it has, but then I realized that I already have a car that can do all that plus more. I guess price really matters to you guys, so why haven't you bought SRT4s?
How are those records for stock internals relevant? Wouldn't the record stop wherever the owner felt like pushing the stock internals to? Otherwise it would be a very expensive game of trial and error. Are there any 850whp Ks?
What would you bet is faster from a dig? The 590whp RWD car or the 636whp FWD car?
BTW the civic hit 9's with 440 whp... that same car hit 646 & 552 lb/ft tq... And it wasnt even a drag car... LOL.. So unless the s2k hits 9's.. it wont even be a competition @ low boost..
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
LMAO... What do you think we trap with almost 300whp? Guess how much money it takes me to get there... Umm $300... LOL I stayed neck n neck with my boy, with his reflash, exhaust, hardpipes and twin plate clutch... He couldn't believe it... (Roll)... Cant wait to take a ride @ the track..
BTW the civic hit 9's with 440 whp... that same car hit 646 & 552 lb/ft tq... And it wasnt even a drag car... LOL.. So unless the s2k hits 9's.. it wont even be a competition @ low boost..
BTW the civic hit 9's with 440 whp... that same car hit 646 & 552 lb/ft tq... And it wasnt even a drag car... LOL.. So unless the s2k hits 9's.. it wont even be a competition @ low boost..
There are 800whp hatches that run 9's and you think you can run 9's with 440whp?? Do those cars have solid rear ends and nothing but a shell as well?
You two are pathetic. Go enjoy your cars and live in your own little fantasy world where Enzos and NSX's are overpriced pos's.
I apologize to anyone that actually took the time to read all this b.s. I'll be sure to just let it go next time either of them posts something incredibly stupid.
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
OMG LOL!!!!!! MARTIN, you just lost what little shred of credibility you had left! I feel like a ******* idiot for even attempting an intelligent argument with you two. $300 to get a Civic 300whp!!! LOL!!! Thanks for the laugh!
There are 800whp hatches that run 9's and you think you can run 9's with 440whp?? Do those cars have solid rear ends and nothing but a shell as well?
You two are pathetic. Go enjoy your cars and live in your own little fantasy world where Enzos and NSX's are overpriced pos's.
I apologize to anyone that actually took the time to read all this b.s. I'll be sure to just let it go next time either of them posts something incredibly stupid.
There are 800whp hatches that run 9's and you think you can run 9's with 440whp?? Do those cars have solid rear ends and nothing but a shell as well?
You two are pathetic. Go enjoy your cars and live in your own little fantasy world where Enzos and NSX's are overpriced pos's.
I apologize to anyone that actually took the time to read all this b.s. I'll be sure to just let it go next time either of them posts something incredibly stupid.
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
LOL I would go as far as posting the links from k20a.org.. but you aren't worth my time... I thought I was dealing with someone knowledgeable... Whats 100shot of n2o on a car that dynos anywhere from 180-190 stock?? Isnt it almost 300whp?? PLease go back to thinking that the s2k is all its hyped up to be... You are just like every other ignorant **** who thinks that just because its a civic that any other car is superior to it... But Imma leave it @ that, dont worry, you're not worth the time...
Wet shot systems run around $800 and not even the dry shot systems are $300. If you're running a 100 dry shot you're somehow even less intelligent than I already imagined. Good luck with the 1/4 mile because I don't see you keeping up through anything else.
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
LOL I would go as far as posting the links from k20a.org.. but you aren't worth my time... I thought I was dealing with someone knowledgeable... Whats 100shot of n2o on a car that dynos anywhere from 180-190 stock?? Isnt it almost 300whp?? PLease go back to thinking that the s2k is all its hyped up to be... You are just like every other ignorant **** who thinks that just because its a civic that any other car is superior to it... But Imma leave it @ that, dont worry, you're not worth the time...
what a
by the way my screen name on there is K20A ED8
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Originally Posted by BlkS5TII
LOL
Wet shot systems run around $800 and not even the dry shot systems are $300. If you're running a 100 dry shot you're somehow even less intelligent than I already imagined. Good luck with the 1/4 mile because I don't see you keeping up through anything else.
Wet shot systems run around $800 and not even the dry shot systems are $300. If you're running a 100 dry shot you're somehow even less intelligent than I already imagined. Good luck with the 1/4 mile because I don't see you keeping up through anything else.
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
k series do put out more power, you just choose to ignore the facts... Stock block f22 590whp on stock block.. k20 636whp, stock block... Both tuned by the same guy..k24 stock block record is 656IIRC and 552lbft... K>F....
Theres a difference between a track car and a road car... Put that same motor in a chasis that is made for turning, and itll be sick as ****...
Track car or all around performance car: S2k > > > > > > > > > Si
Needing to carry 3 passengers AND groceries: Evo >>>>>>>> Si LOL
Theres a difference between a track car and a road car... Put that same motor in a chasis that is made for turning, and itll be sick as ****...
Track car or all around performance car: S2k > > > > > > > > > Si
Needing to carry 3 passengers AND groceries: Evo >>>>>>>> Si LOL
I dont need a $30k grocery getter that a civic can take with a $300 upgrade... LOL..[/QUOTE]
How much of a shot of nitrous r u running? 300$ is damn cheap. But really u can't count nitrous man because anybody can ******* put nitrous in their car. But the civics do resond pretty well to the chooch i have seen one with direct port and it is ******* fast.
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Originally Posted by 10thAEWHiteHeat
Why you keep comparing the civic to cars in other leagues... Unless you want me to add the price difference to the si, there is no point in comparing.. $300 and I took an evo,sti,srt4,lightning and 13sec hatch... So imagine $10k...
I dont need a $30k grocery getter that a civic can take with a $300 upgrade... LOL..
I dont need a $30k grocery getter that a civic can take with a $300 upgrade... LOL..
Seeing as how you are in miami, would you like to see? Lets do it... 3058044921 Martin is my #...
Im sorry papo, but BS I dont do... These are all cars I raced down here @ okeechobee and some other locations... Call me up if in doubt... Ill be down to race your 10AE...
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who alfredo ?
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
How much of a shot of nitrous r u running? 300$ is damn cheap. But really u can't count nitrous man because anybody can ******* put nitrous in their car. But the civics do resond pretty well to the chooch i have seen one with direct port and it is ******* fast.
Im sorry papo, but BS I dont do... These are all cars I raced down here @ okeechobee and some other locations... Call me up if in doubt... Ill be down to race your 10AE...[/QUOTE]
Lol yeah my bad i jumped the gun on that u can see i edited the post. Didn't see that the 300$ was spent on nitrous. I don't doubt ur word bro but i would def like to race just for fun. I should be finishing my car up at Tweak's house this week so im down. How much of a shot u running?
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Originally Posted by 10thAEWHiteHeat
$300 is damn cheap. But really u can't count nitrous man because anybody can ******* put nitrous in their car.
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Originally Posted by 10thAEWHiteHeat
Seeing as how you are in miami, would you like to see? Lets do it... 3058044921 Martin is my #...
Im sorry papo, but BS I dont do... These are all cars I raced down here @ okeechobee and some other locations... Call me up if in doubt... Ill be down to race your 10AE...
Im sorry papo, but BS I dont do... These are all cars I raced down here @ okeechobee and some other locations... Call me up if in doubt... Ill be down to race your 10AE...
Depends on what im running.. Usually 75 shot, havent gone up yet..
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Originally Posted by adrock3217
I love how Martin keeps challenging everyone to race his Civic rofl..
Do you REALLY want to race? And you don't care what I have? Rofl..
Do you REALLY want to race? And you don't care what I have? Rofl..
haha whateva...I'll take some mf'ers down with my 2.0 liter ED8 ;-)
08-19-06, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by adrock3217
I love how Martin keeps challenging everyone to race his Civic rofl..
Do you REALLY want to race? And you don't care what I have? Rofl..
Do you REALLY want to race? And you don't care what I have? Rofl..
You're going to need at LEAST 800whp to beat him, so why bother?