Jackslick2009

Project car was passed down to me by a friend. Does not Run.. which is no good. its a 1986 gsl-se with a 1991 13b motor on a weber carb w a turbo II..... switched spark plugs, wont start, rebuilt the carb....didnt work...i am switching the oil next (smells of gas)...what oil type and how much should i use? Along w that the firing order for a 13b, ignition timing would be helpfull since i dont have that? please anyone help? many thanks

IaMtHeRuThLeSs1

20w50 oil will be fine.

Be more specific, you're just said it isn't running and it appears that you're just going around fixing things without actually diagnosing the problem.

Will the motor turn over? Are you sure you have spark?

Also, I highly doubt you have both a weber carb and FI. (ie. it's not a tii motor)

wvumtnbkr

Okay, first off it is either a 1986 OR it is a GSL-SE. It can't be both. GSL-SE is a first gen designation. a 1986 SHOULD be a 2nd gen.

Next, it sounds like the car is REALLY flooded. (that is why the oil smells like gas) Take out the spark plugs and somehow stop the fuel from entering the motor. Crank teh car over a few times. Put in a teaspoon of oil in the top two plug holes. Re-connect the fuel line and re-install the spark plugs. If the only problem with it is being flooded, this should solve it. Don't change the oil until you get it unflooded. It will only let gas get into the oil again.

Depending on the block you have (it may be a first or second gen) it may have a first or second gen oil pan. The amount of oil to put in depends on the oil pan. You should be able to find capacities for both the first and second generation cars if you do a search.

We need some more info to be able to help you out! What generation is the car? can you give us some more information on the block? WHat type of ignition do you have?


And for the ruthless 1: It is very possible to have a turbo on a carburated car. There is at least one person on this board that has one.

Jackslick2009

it does spark...it turns over..but it wont stay on....it basically revs up with my gas pushed down after i turn the key... when i let go it turns off...maybe its and idle issue? but i would like the ignition timeing er firing orders...whaterver my distributor settings need to be so i can make sure that is not a problem.....pleas help..any input anybody...it is a second generation... 13b

IaMtHeRuThLeSs1

I know it's possible, but I find it highly unlikely that someone who is going to all the trouble to turbo/carb a Rx-7 is just going to "pass it down" as the OP said.

I'm willing to bet the guy who gave it to him is more likely full of it, or the OP just doesn't know any better (no offense OP)

IaMtHeRuThLeSs1

First and easiest thing to check would be your TPS.

Cheap to replace, and super easy, hope that's it.

wvumtnbkr

okay, this is not making sense to me!

so you have the following:
Carb
Distributer
Turbo
13B
and an 87 GSL-SE

Can you take a picture of the car and the engine compartment?

A second gen should not have a distributer. It should have a crank angle sensor (CAS). If it truely does have a distributer, then the plug wires should be coming directly off of the distributer (where the crank angle sensor should be).

Are you running any type of computer on the car? A stock one even? If you are running a carb and a dizzy, I would think you are not.

If you are not running any sort of electronics then it is not the TPS (there wouldn't be one!)

If all of the above is true, it sounds like the idle circuit on the carb needs adjusted. Check for vacuum leaks after the carb if it is set correctly.

FrankV702

iTrader: (14)

My FC had a weber carb AND a turbo! :/ Also, one of my local friends has a supercharged FC with a carb AND a CAS! haha

But yea, the post is kind of confusing. Like stated above, take a pic of the engine bay and the car. Who did the carb conversion on it?

wvumtnbkr

I can understand using a carb and a CAS. One is for fuel and one is for spark. That would be the easy and cheap way to do it! In fact, I would think it is the "better" way to do it.

I am curious to see this car!

FrankV702

iTrader: (14)

Yea it's an interesting setup! The carb is for the fuel and the stock ECU is being used for the ignition. My friend Dave had it on his car, then passed it down to another local friend. The car is pretty nice! I'm tryin to convince him to take it to Sevenstock this year.

paganizondadude

iTrader: (1)

Um.... '87 GSL-SE is 100% impossible.


Do some reasearch first.


And yes you can have a turbo with a carb.