VIS polyfiber '99 front end
06-21-04, 02:24 PM
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I made a similar thread a week or so ago and was informed that one of the guys working on the 99 wing gp was going to help out w/ the bumper once that got all worked out.
06-23-04, 04:27 PM
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Be warned. The GB will be moving at a snail's pace. Reasons for that are:
- Funds must be collected to purchase an authentic bumper for a mold to have sent to VIS.
- VIS then needs to make a mold.
- The bumpers get manufactured.
All in all I think it may take 2 months or more between when you deposit your money and when you actually get your bumper.
- Funds must be collected to purchase an authentic bumper for a mold to have sent to VIS.
- VIS then needs to make a mold.
- The bumpers get manufactured.
All in all I think it may take 2 months or more between when you deposit your money and when you actually get your bumper.
06-23-04, 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Vick
Be warned. The GB will be moving at a snail's pace. Reasons for that are:
- Funds must be collected to purchase an authentic bumper for a mold to have sent to VIS.
- VIS then needs to make a mold.
- The bumpers get manufactured.
All in all I think it may take 2 months or more between when you deposit your money and when you actually get your bumper.
Be warned. The GB will be moving at a snail's pace. Reasons for that are:
- Funds must be collected to purchase an authentic bumper for a mold to have sent to VIS.
- VIS then needs to make a mold.
- The bumpers get manufactured.
All in all I think it may take 2 months or more between when you deposit your money and when you actually get your bumper.
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Can we use the stock rebar?
Will it have a plateholder?
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06-24-04, 01:46 PM
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2 months isn't the end of the world.
But we can save most of questions by simply stating which one will be copied up front (the OE with the brick stuck in it, or the plateless version). The plateless version will be easier/cheaper, since the FG one is only $550 to start with.
Then just simply state, if you don't understand anything else about this, do a search, learn something, or have a professional install it. The rebar thing is such a joke with this... it's a piece of fiberglass and the holes for the marker lights aren't big enough. Break out your dremel, problem solved.
Hope this happens.
But we can save most of questions by simply stating which one will be copied up front (the OE with the brick stuck in it, or the plateless version). The plateless version will be easier/cheaper, since the FG one is only $550 to start with.
Then just simply state, if you don't understand anything else about this, do a search, learn something, or have a professional install it. The rebar thing is such a joke with this... it's a piece of fiberglass and the holes for the marker lights aren't big enough. Break out your dremel, problem solved.
Hope this happens.
Originally posted by montego
And there will TONS of questions about it too!
Like this:
Can we use the stock rebar?
Will it have a plateholder?
And there will TONS of questions about it too!
Like this:
Can we use the stock rebar?
Will it have a plateholder?
06-24-04, 05:49 PM
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I'm down as long as it DOES have the license plate holder.
This should be a '99-spec replica front end. If you don't like the plate then there are already about 4 companies who sell them that way. The bodyshop could easily remove it as well during installation.
This should be a '99-spec replica front end. If you don't like the plate then there are already about 4 companies who sell them that way. The bodyshop could easily remove it as well during installation.
06-24-04, 09:27 PM
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I only know of one that makes it plateless, and that's Pettit for $550.... and its fiberglass. The whole point of this one would be to get it made in something flexible/durable.... and a body shop can't "easily" remove it from the OE part... its a long expensive job, and it usually collapses over time and looks like ***.
The one with the plate is already available in something flexible/durable. Its called the OE part. So get a real job and pay a little extra for it, its worth it. There's no need for another product here... you'd be building a replica of something that already exists.
I'd pay $550 or even the price of the OE product, if it came with no plate.... its not about cost necessarily for me, its about durability and asthetics.
The one with the plate is already available in something flexible/durable. Its called the OE part. So get a real job and pay a little extra for it, its worth it. There's no need for another product here... you'd be building a replica of something that already exists.
I'd pay $550 or even the price of the OE product, if it came with no plate.... its not about cost necessarily for me, its about durability and asthetics.
Originally posted by wReX
I'm down as long as it DOES have the license plate holder.
This should be a '99-spec replica front end. If you don't like the plate then there are already about 4 companies who sell them that way. The bodyshop could easily remove it as well during installation.
I'm down as long as it DOES have the license plate holder.
This should be a '99-spec replica front end. If you don't like the plate then there are already about 4 companies who sell them that way. The bodyshop could easily remove it as well during installation.
06-25-04, 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by ptrhahn
I only know of one that makes it plateless, and that's Pettit for $550.... and its fiberglass. The whole point of this one would be to get it made in something flexible/durable.... and a body shop can't "easily" remove it from the OE part... its a long expensive job, and it usually collapses over time and looks like ***.
The one with the plate is already available in something flexible/durable. Its called the OE part. So get a real job and pay a little extra for it, its worth it. There's no need for another product here... you'd be building a replica of something that already exists.
I'd pay $550 or even the price of the OE product, if it came with no plate.... its not about cost necessarily for me, its about durability and asthetics.
I only know of one that makes it plateless, and that's Pettit for $550.... and its fiberglass. The whole point of this one would be to get it made in something flexible/durable.... and a body shop can't "easily" remove it from the OE part... its a long expensive job, and it usually collapses over time and looks like ***.
The one with the plate is already available in something flexible/durable. Its called the OE part. So get a real job and pay a little extra for it, its worth it. There's no need for another product here... you'd be building a replica of something that already exists.
I'd pay $550 or even the price of the OE product, if it came with no plate.... its not about cost necessarily for me, its about durability and asthetics.
Who knows maybe VIS could offer them both ways, I can't waste the time arguing with someone like you though.
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06-25-04, 08:27 AM
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I had the best paint/body shop in Washington DC area tell me not to try to convert the factory Mazda piece. In order to do it, the "box" needs to be cut out, and another piece grafted in, and patched up with putty, and reinforced. This is somebody who could have made alot of money doing this for me (and has done it for others) while my car was in for an entire repaint, is but advised against it. Likewise, i've personally seen (and heard) of more than one of these jobs that deteriorate and sag over time because of the disparate materials used... including Shiv's car that was used for the original conversion in Sport Compact Car... so you can essentially see the patch. FWIW, if you were to significantly damage or tear your OEM 93-95 nose, then went to get it repaired in this manner, a good shop will reccomend just replacing it because they don't patch well, precisely BECAUSE they are flexible. Ever seen a 93-95 with ripples in it? What do you think will happen to your patch when the material slightly shrinks/expands/wharps over time? No thanks.
A flexible, durable, perfectly fitting '99 nose that will accomodate your liscense plate already exists. If your really that budget consious, i've seen them come up used on this board... heck, give JT-imports a call, he can probably get used ones from Japan already painted in factory colors.
What DOESN'T exist is a flexible, durable aftermarket '99 nose for these cars that doesn't include that stupid brick that Mazda should have left off whether you need a liscense plate or not. Nobody needed the brick to mount the liscense plate on ther 93-95 cars.
I would say that if the real '99 hadn't had that stupid thing, half the U.S. cars would have converted to it using the factory piece by now. If you were to go through all this trouble to make molds etc., would you build something that hasn't been built yet, and that a great number of people have been clamoring for?
A flexible, durable, perfectly fitting '99 nose that will accomodate your liscense plate already exists. If your really that budget consious, i've seen them come up used on this board... heck, give JT-imports a call, he can probably get used ones from Japan already painted in factory colors.
What DOESN'T exist is a flexible, durable aftermarket '99 nose for these cars that doesn't include that stupid brick that Mazda should have left off whether you need a liscense plate or not. Nobody needed the brick to mount the liscense plate on ther 93-95 cars.
I would say that if the real '99 hadn't had that stupid thing, half the U.S. cars would have converted to it using the factory piece by now. If you were to go through all this trouble to make molds etc., would you build something that hasn't been built yet, and that a great number of people have been clamoring for?
Originally posted by wReX
It would take me far too long to correct you on all your misinformation. You need to do a search. The VIS would be less than half the cost of the OEM bumper, that's the point. The whole concept of building a replica is to make a copy of the original part, lmao. Some people need to display a front plate depending on the state they live in as well. Removing the plate has no effect on the bumper, where the hell are you planning on taking your car to? Maaco? lmao. What do I know, I'm too busy "getting a real job" Mr art director.
Who knows maybe VIS could offer them both ways, I can't waste the time arguing with someone like you though.
It would take me far too long to correct you on all your misinformation. You need to do a search. The VIS would be less than half the cost of the OEM bumper, that's the point. The whole concept of building a replica is to make a copy of the original part, lmao. Some people need to display a front plate depending on the state they live in as well. Removing the plate has no effect on the bumper, where the hell are you planning on taking your car to? Maaco? lmao. What do I know, I'm too busy "getting a real job" Mr art director.
Who knows maybe VIS could offer them both ways, I can't waste the time arguing with someone like you though.
06-25-04, 08:49 AM
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^^^ I second that...
Ptrhahn,
So what is the best body shop in the DC area? I have some things that I would like to get touched up. The body shop that worked on my car last really f'd it up.
Matthew Walsh
Ptrhahn,
So what is the best body shop in the DC area? I have some things that I would like to get touched up. The body shop that worked on my car last really f'd it up.
Matthew Walsh
06-25-04, 08:59 AM
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Try "Mr. Spoiler" in Mannasas... its a little hole in the wall shop, but the guy is an artist, and anyone whos ever used him raves about the work, from full repainst, to touch-ups, to show kits.
Other than that, Wagon Works in springfield is the top of the heap. Bring your platinum card. But they do real nice work.
Other than that, Wagon Works in springfield is the top of the heap. Bring your platinum card. But they do real nice work.
06-25-04, 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by 7upurz
Problem is VIS is slow even with stuff that they have already made, so to pay upfront for something thats not even finished yet... Id advise you guys against it.
Problem is VIS is slow even with stuff that they have already made, so to pay upfront for something thats not even finished yet... Id advise you guys against it.
Anway, I want to set up the GB to where customers can have a choice in regards to the plate holder.
Stay tuned.
06-27-04, 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by ptrhahn
Try "Mr. Spoiler" in Mannasas... its a little hole in the wall shop, but the guy is an artist, and anyone whos ever used him raves about the work, from full repainst, to touch-ups, to show kits.
Other than that, Wagon Works in springfield is the top of the heap. Bring your platinum card. But they do real nice work.
Try "Mr. Spoiler" in Mannasas... its a little hole in the wall shop, but the guy is an artist, and anyone whos ever used him raves about the work, from full repainst, to touch-ups, to show kits.
Other than that, Wagon Works in springfield is the top of the heap. Bring your platinum card. But they do real nice work.
06-28-04, 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by ptrhahn
Try "Mr. Spoiler" in Mannasas... its a little hole in the wall shop, but the guy is an artist, and anyone whos ever used him raves about the work, from full repainst, to touch-ups, to show kits.
Other than that, Wagon Works in springfield is the top of the heap. Bring your platinum card. But they do real nice work.
Try "Mr. Spoiler" in Mannasas... its a little hole in the wall shop, but the guy is an artist, and anyone whos ever used him raves about the work, from full repainst, to touch-ups, to show kits.
Other than that, Wagon Works in springfield is the top of the heap. Bring your platinum card. But they do real nice work.
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