Twin Round Pop Ups!?
10-15-10, 10:44 AM
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Based on what I am seeing in the pics, I think he will get some improvement over stock but not much. "Modern" projector based technology is so much better than the stock units or what I am seeing in these pics it is a shame not to use them for this project. And then throw in the HID projector units I have detailed, these would be killer.
I know all of this because of my sleepy eye HID project:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...+eye+headlight
I have spent way too much time on the phone with Hella and the rallylights.com guys discussing all things lighting. The bottom line - you need to use projector units for the low beams to really improve the light.
I am happy to help charlie_p with this as it would save me from having to kick the body shop guys' a**es to complete the kit they were supposed to be making for me. I will be down meeting with them next weekend to see what is up but I am not positive they will come through.
10-15-10, 10:51 AM
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Well havent ditched the HIDs....but four halogens will give good light, plus can be easily upgraded to HID if wanted, a guy who has done some electrical work on my rx says he sells good quality German HID kits for around £100 ($150)....but would need two as theres two sets of lights!
Anyway, lets see how good the light is from the H4 bulbs first!
Anyway, lets see how good the light is from the H4 bulbs first!
You also can't run 4 lights at a time and be legal here in the states. I almost went this route until I found this out. If you don't care about this, then put in two of these bi-halogen projector units into the lows:
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4924
The above will allow you to run the units as lows and then also as highs. You will need to sort out a relay for the lows to keep them on at the same time as the highs. I did this with mine.
10-15-10, 11:00 AM
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Yes I see what you mean, but these are headlights for a bike, so they are intended as a beam light....not just random spot lights
I can look into those hella ones, but initially, they look bulky, and theres not much space to play around with. Having said that, I'm sure it could be done, but with people quibbling at £350ish, I cant see it being worth my time and money, changing the whole design to use the better lights.
My original intention was to make some better lights, for less money than the knightsports...which I have done
I can look into those hella ones, but initially, they look bulky, and theres not much space to play around with. Having said that, I'm sure it could be done, but with people quibbling at £350ish, I cant see it being worth my time and money, changing the whole design to use the better lights.
My original intention was to make some better lights, for less money than the knightsports...which I have done
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10-15-10, 11:02 AM
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Ref to more pictures- I have been really busy, and standing in for someone away at work, I will get it done, but there will be no clearance issues since the light frames are based on the KnightSport frames....and they fit!
10-16-10, 08:46 AM
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Yes I see what you mean, but these are headlights for a bike, so they are intended as a beam light....not just random spot lights
I can look into those hella ones, but initially, they look bulky, and theres not much space to play around with. Having said that, I'm sure it could be done, but with people quibbling at £350ish, I cant see it being worth my time and money, changing the whole design to use the better lights.
My original intention was to make some better lights, for less money than the knightsports...which I have done
I can look into those hella ones, but initially, they look bulky, and theres not much space to play around with. Having said that, I'm sure it could be done, but with people quibbling at £350ish, I cant see it being worth my time and money, changing the whole design to use the better lights.
My original intention was to make some better lights, for less money than the knightsports...which I have done
You are correct, any time you use a projector style light it will be more bulky by nature of the projector. The light output is much much better though.
10-16-10, 10:44 AM
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I wasnt disagreeing, I'm sure the projectors will be the best option!
All I'm saying is, sorting these out, has taken quite a few trips to the Blacksmith, money and time...and when someone on an English FD forum had the the cheek to offer £250 (about $350) for them which is less than a set costs the make.....it's really not worth my while doing the project again to work with the projector lights
All I'm saying is, sorting these out, has taken quite a few trips to the Blacksmith, money and time...and when someone on an English FD forum had the the cheek to offer £250 (about $350) for them which is less than a set costs the make.....it's really not worth my while doing the project again to work with the projector lights
10-16-10, 11:31 AM
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Charlie,
Hell, anything is better than paying for the actual Knightsports pop ups, so in my opinion if you have to ask $400 - $600 for this, I'd still be in. I know this is not what some here would like to pay, but given the rarity and lack of vendors offering this, I still think it a bargain.
Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work!
Mike
Hell, anything is better than paying for the actual Knightsports pop ups, so in my opinion if you have to ask $400 - $600 for this, I'd still be in. I know this is not what some here would like to pay, but given the rarity and lack of vendors offering this, I still think it a bargain.
Just my 2 cents. Keep up the good work!
Mike
10-16-10, 06:52 PM
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400-600 for custom lights that fit isn't bad at all, as long as they are quality and still maintain the stock FD body lines. I dont like aftermarket crap that dont fit right. thats why I want to see more pics of them installed and finished. I dont want to see gaps with wires showing.
10-27-10, 04:55 AM
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Ok- just sorting out getting some light covers/shrouds made, so shouldnt be too much longer before I have 2-3 sets ready to send.
Now there is a chance that I could do the light shrouds in carbon fibre, obviously the weave wont be perfect as I dont have a vacuum machine lol but will do a set and take pictures
Now there is a chance that I could do the light shrouds in carbon fibre, obviously the weave wont be perfect as I dont have a vacuum machine lol but will do a set and take pictures
11-09-10, 09:24 AM
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Update- sorry it's taking so long, but just sourced the ball joint, will make the order tomorrow!
Hoping to have some lights together next week, and of course, fitted....I'll do pictures in a standard car to show shut lines fit well etc
Hoping to have some lights together next week, and of course, fitted....I'll do pictures in a standard car to show shut lines fit well etc
11-10-10, 06:08 AM
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Anyone know where to get the 50mm units (xenon, low beam), without the bulb/ballast?
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1796
Seems they sell everything separately except that
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1796
Seems they sell everything separately except that
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11-10-10, 11:57 AM
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subscribed... Would likely only be interested in an HID version. If you don't plan on offering that will you sell just the shroud/bracket without the halogen lights? Need to figure out how much space there is to play with and what HID projectors fit. Looks good so far though man!
11-10-10, 12:48 PM
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Got an email back. Very pleasant and informative, despite not being the answer I was hoping for
Hella doesn’t offer that lamp without D2S capsule and Gen III ballast. I can’t take the capsule out of the lamp and sell it because I have no box to put it in. I know that sounds strange, but Hella Capsules come in a special package with protective features.
I can take the ballast out and resell it. If I do that, I can reduce the prices for the lamps to:
HL21510 50mm Headlamp, Xenon Low Beam, 12V, D2S.…$393.17.
HL21520 50mm Headlamp, Xenon High Beam, 12V, D2S....$277.78.
Regards,
Dave
I can take the ballast out and resell it. If I do that, I can reduce the prices for the lamps to:
HL21510 50mm Headlamp, Xenon Low Beam, 12V, D2S.…$393.17.
HL21520 50mm Headlamp, Xenon High Beam, 12V, D2S....$277.78.
Regards,
Dave
11-11-10, 10:56 AM
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subscribed... Would likely only be interested in an HID version. If you don't plan on offering that will you sell just the shroud/bracket without the halogen lights? Need to figure out how much space there is to play with and what HID projectors fit. Looks good so far though man!
