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Old 02-15-10, 06:55 PM
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So you ditched HIDs as an option?
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Well havent ditched the HIDs....but four halogens will give good light, plus can be easily upgraded to HID if wanted, a guy who has done some electrical work on my rx says he sells good quality German HID kits for around £100 ($150)....but would need two as theres two sets of lights!

Anyway, lets see how good the light is from the H4 bulbs first!
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Originally Posted by charlie_p
Well havent ditched the HIDs....but four halogens will give good light, plus can be easily upgraded to HID if wanted, a guy who has done some electrical work on my rx says he sells good quality German HID kits for around £100 ($150)....but would need two as theres two sets of lights!

Anyway, lets see how good the light is from the H4 bulbs first!
I agree the four halogens will produce very good light. I disagree though that you can convert these into HIDs. HIDs require HID projectors and you cannot retrofit HIDs successfully into non-HID projectors. I know everyone does it but it does not mean you'll end up with a good result. HID projectors are especially designed for HID lighting and thus have properly positioned reflectors in them for the task. Halogen projector housings work for halogen bulbs and should not be retrofitted with HID kits, period.

You end up with inferior lighting that blinds oncoming traffic. Sure you can do it, but it just doesn't work and I strongly urge you to offer true HID if you'd like but not retrofit crap. You could do this by using Hella headlamp module products. See:

http://www.rallylights.com/Hella_90m...p_Modules.aspx
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Ah ok, thanks for that, well I didnt realise that there should be specific lighting set-up for the HID bulbs....

Will have some pictures of it on the car tomorrow, or friday!
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Originally Posted by charlie_p
Ah ok, thanks for that, well I didnt realise that there should be specific lighting set-up for the HID bulbs....

Will have some pictures of it on the car tomorrow, or friday!
Yes, to do this right you need HID specific projectors for the HID bulbs or it won't work right.
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Yes, to do this right you need HID specific projectors for the HID bulbs or it won't work right.
It will work just not properly spitting light everywhere without the clean beam cut off.
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It will work just not properly spitting light everywhere without the clean beam cut off.
See my post: sure you can put HID retrofits into a halogen projector, it just won't work correctly as I stated.
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In England we have an MOT- a test of roadworthyness of the car, checking things like lights. Now I'm pretty sure that these lights will be fine for here, but how fussy on light pattern are the equivalent tests in America?
If there needs to be light towards the side of the road, the bars which the lights are attached to can be angled slightly, as the KS ones are.
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Originally Posted by charlie_p
In England we have an MOT- a test of roadworthyness of the car, checking things like lights. Now I'm pretty sure that these lights will be fine for here, but how fussy on light pattern are the equivalent tests in America?
If there needs to be light towards the side of the road, the bars which the lights are attached to can be angled slightly, as the KS ones are.
A decent MOT centre will fail a HID kit using reflectors in the UK. But there are plenty of garages who will turn a blind eye, just like with emissions .
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Hi guys!
A quick update! Very nearly finished...but not quite, as you can see from the pictures, all the parts are sorted, just had a set back with mounting the lights to the framework, my initial idea of using the light rim wont work as it's all too tight for space, so will work on getting a mounting onto the lamp...then all done!
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Look forward to seeing how these turn out.
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Ditto as I would like to upgrade my KS setup.
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Looking good so far. Can't wait to see how they come out.
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Hi guys!
Sorry for the delay, but at last I've found a way of mounting the lights in the frame, taking the bits to the Blacksmith tomorrow, so with any luck can test fit them some time next week!
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I'm sooo ready to put these on my car!!! Please keep the updates coming!!!
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Cool. just tried to ring the Blacksmith to see how he got on, but no answer as yet, will get over to him on Monday, all being well will then do a test fit!
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Originally Posted by David Hayes
The Hellas have mounting plates and are fully adjustable so they would be a good option for the OP. Let's see what he comes up with. Here are the units I recommend. For the lows:

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4283

And for the highs:

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=127

And the mounting brackets:

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=503
Those look like nice units

Also interested in this project, good luck!
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Charlie,

How are we doing on the progress?
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Hiya- sorry for the delay, rang the blacksmith today, he's been snowed under with work....and mines just a small job.

He's got one side done, and he said to ring next tuesday...I will have my car back then, so will be able to test fit!
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Hiya! At last, should be getting the lights on in the next day or so to test fit!

Now, does anyone know much about shipping to America, taxes etc
Could I just send, and you pay the tax, or not!? I've never sent things to America so not sure..
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You can mark the items as a gift and taxes are waived!!!
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Ok quick update-
Just finishing getting the lamps fixed correctly, so they sit in line with the cowling

Now, I'd be looking at about £275 which, at todays exchange rate of 1.52 is about $400...how does that sound??
Maybe less, depends on his final pricing when he does the frames for me
Plus delivery though...

I have put a lot of time into these, and they will be much better than the Original Knightsports. Don't know whose seen them, but I have a set on my car, and seem pretty bad for the money, I understand they were around £600 ($800) when new?
Afterall, the lamps were simply spot lights, one pair angled high one angled low for different light patterns.
These will be twin headlights, two beams from each side, as they are twin filament bulbs...the knightsports are not, by the way, they are an H3 bulb.

The Light Surrounds will be thicker, in fibreglass, could do carbon, but weave wont be good.
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Charlie,

The pricing is good, the inside light should be halogen (H) for fast high beam action the low beam should be a choice of either halogen or projector style housing, I know I have a HID in mine how that I would like to keep, but need a projector housing as the light pattern will be that much nicer and brighter overall!!!
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just throwing this out there, maybe get in touch with a stateside vendor like chaser, aerofiber, or shine and see if they could make them here to save on shipping.


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