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Old 11-23-05, 05:51 PM
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Arrow defi gauge lighting modification

im looking for gauges with an amber light. i really like the build quality of defi, and im almost positive they're who ill go with. now, the problem is lighting. their d-gauges have the propper color for my interior... however they are rather useless since they dont have a warning light, record functions, etc.

the link series has all of these features.... and they even offer them in non-metric units (i guess thats a plus?? ). anyway, the backlighting is GREEN, and that wont work for me (sorry im a little **** about things matching). to get to my actual question.... has anyone dissasembled a link series gauge? if so, is it possible to switch the led's to amber? thanks. heath
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I know how you feel hehe.

Defi BF series comes in amber.

You can also look at the Nexus line from Autometer. Can be the same color as well.

both have what you are looking for. Nexus being slightly more advantageous because it can be had in 52 as well as 60mm.
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I know how you feel hehe.

Defi BF series comes in amber.

You can also look at the Nexus line from Autometer. Can be the same color as well.

both have what you are looking for. Nexus being slightly more advantageous because it can be had in 52 as well as 60mm.
the BF series is out because they only offer 60mm gauges
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Heath, you sound EXACTLY like me not too long ago... I think you know what I ended up going with...
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Heath, you sound EXACTLY like me not too long ago... I think you know what I ended up going with...
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im about to just go for the d-gauges.... but id really like a warning light/buzzer, otherwise i may not notice the gauges going into a dangerous area and would miss a potential problem (negating the purpose of having gauges). im torn between function and fashoin . too bad theres no way to just modify the link gauges.
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DEFI stopped making the link series controller that you need for the link-series gauges to work with all the functions you want... they also, apparently stopped making the D-gauge boost gauge that i wanted (maybe i'll have ot track one down and buy it before everyone's stock goes away).
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Pugg, you're right, they have. But to me, seeing how successful the Defi gauges were, that means only one thing: Defi's about to launch a new line of gauges. I'd hold out a bit Heath... just see what's going on in the meantime. Do the gauges last.
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yeah i do have some time before the 20b is actually IN the car. ive been so busy with work/family that i havent had a second to spend time with the car. but yeah your right.... simply waiting is the best thing to do, and hopefully they will release some new ones in the mean time. -heath
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I might have just found a place that still carries the DEFI D gauges. Evasive Motorsports....prices were cheaper than what i found on other sites and they have a 10% discount coupon as well. (I just hope i don't get the email saying that they don't have anymore)
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so... back to the original question, does anyone have nay experience with attempting to change the color of the back light from the DEFI Link Meter gauges? i'd love to have a nice set of color matching gauges with the nice little beep warnings and replays etc.
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Originally Posted by pugg57
so... back to the original question, does anyone have nay experience with attempting to change the color of the back light from the DEFI Link Meter gauges? i'd love to have a nice set of color matching gauges with the nice little beep warnings and replays etc.

I thought somebody answered that....but DEFI has the BF Imperial gauges which are red...i belive the BF's are as well; both of which require the link meter.

I guess if you're saying you already have the gauges but green...then i don't think you can do anything...besides trying to take apart the gauge and change the filter color.

Just my 2 cents, but i may not be too qualified to answer. Where's Ramy??
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Originally Posted by rx7twinturboboy
I thought somebody answered that....but DEFI has the BF Imperial gauges which are red...i belive the BF's are as well; both of which require the link meter.

I guess if you're saying you already have the gauges but green...then i don't think you can do anything...besides trying to take apart the gauge and change the filter color.

Just my 2 cents, but i may not be too qualified to answer. Where's Ramy??
yeha... oops, my bad guys, sorry about that, i missed a very important sentance. i guess its the D-Gauges for me (if i decide to do my shopping now) or perhaps i'll wait and see what comes around like Ramy suggested.
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Well the other thing is...I have some custom plans for my gauges, and I'm sending one off to a shop that's been doing custom work on gauges for over 25 years. It's in Cali. If you guys can sit tight for a few months, I'll let you guys know if they can mess w/ them (they'll have the gauge in front of them in their hand, so they should easily be able to tell if they can modify them, and if so, how). I'll be sure to post back here what they find. It'll be in early January.

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Sweet, thanks Ramy.
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Well the other thing is...I have some custom plans for my gauges, and I'm sending one off to a shop that's been doing custom work on gauges for over 25 years. It's in Cali. If you guys can sit tight for a few months, I'll let you guys know if they can mess w/ them (they'll have the gauge in front of them in their hand, so they should easily be able to tell if they can modify them, and if so, how). I'll be sure to post back here what they find. It'll be in early January.

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yes please reply. who knows what defi will end up with.
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Damn me too. I have the Defi D and I want something else. The BF are too big and need the discontinued controller. I am wondering what to do. Also I am having a problem with my boost gauge sitting AT 1 psi. I am in contact with a rep from Defi, maybe I will see what he
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the Link Meter gauges can be controlled with the Link Control Unit II which is a newer, updated version of the afforementioned discontinued Link Control Unit... this new one has the audible *beep* warnings on it and is still in production.

at least, this is what i got from what was written on the DEFI webpage.

*edit: Sonix, if you plan on getting rid of those D gauges you have, please let me know.
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yeah I don't want to. I am just worried that they are discontinued. I love the D gauge, it is truely hard to tell those are not stock. I am having a problem with the boost being off 1 psi, so I am trying to see if Defi will help. I bought it off of E-bay and the seller never responded when I asked for inspection. Defi has awesome customer service. They just don't take gauges for repair through the public. Has to go through the seller. So I might be assed out. I may also find a new boost gauge (same D gauge black face) and I have not decided on what other gauge I am going to get. I have three spots and I have boost and w.temp, and WB AFR in a different location. I may get EGT or F. Pressure to finish off the extra space. I have not decided. Anyone got an opinion on what gauge I should choose?

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Ramy, what are you looking to do with the gauges?

I'm sure some of you have seen the writeup from hyperite here on what he did to his stock gauges as well as the D-series A/F. He popped the cover and sanded the back of the face down as to change the lighting to white.

I'm sure the link series is done in a similar fasion. There's one of two ways to do it. Pop the cover and sand as well as change the LED to whatever color you want. Of course, the needle won't change as that I believe it's fed off the main LEDs inside the housing. The Autometer Nexus gauges are the only ones I know where the needle can change too.

Anyway, the LEDs should be nothing more than your somewhat typical surface mount LED. If they're the really small ones like the ones that light up the PFC commander's display, I'd recommend having someone do it as those are extremely delicate.

Hope that helps. Obviously you're voiding the warranty, but you're getting exactly what you want. Risk vs reward I guess.
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hmm. if my boost gauge turns out not fixable and is still off. I might use it as a prototype for what railgun69 is saying. Pop off the face sand the illumination color off and change LED's. I wonder if that would work. What about an electronics repair shop, they sould probably change the LED if it was extremely difficult.
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While we're talking D-gauges, everyone who has 'em...do you guys have that stepping motor function in which once you turn the key to ACC, all the gauges "rev to redline" then drop back down? I'm especially interested in hearing what you guys say re: your boost gauge as well.

Jason, the Defi boost gauges are sworn on this forum to be of incredibly high quality. I believe that. But they ain't the most accurate haha. My boost gauge is consistantly off 1 psi as well. I've read several similar accounts on the forum as well.

Christian... in a very sing-song girly voice... "I wooon't teeeelll....." LOL All I'm gonna say is, if it works, it'll be so freakin sweet!

Oh and warranty? What warranty? I've had my gauges for 2 years haha.

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Hahha....ok ok. Well can't wait to see what you're going to do.

As far as the stepping motors, that's only for electrical, not mechanical gauges. The boost gauge just sits there and reads whatever you throw at it.

For whatever reason, my boost gauge is reading a pound or so off on the high side. And the other thing I don't like about them and this is the most common complaint is that it reads in 2.5 psi increments. Pretty stupid.

Here's the writeup for the gauge color thing...

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/write-up-hyperite-gauge-mod-white-backlighting-473379/

That's not where the Defi writeup is. I don't know where that is at the moment.
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Here it is...

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/writeup-d-gauge-backlight-white-color-437466/
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wow. most of us that have the d-gauge boost has experienced 1 lb off on calibration? then I don't feel so bad if that is the case. Plus I have the PFC and was just gonna subtract a pound from the gauge reading and live with it. Funny thing is that it was at zero when I bought it and after running it for a year its off. hmmm?
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Oh mine still reads zero at 0 psi. But in general, it's about 1 psi off. Good quality, poor accuracy

Oh and Christian, yea all my D gauges have the stepping motor function, except the boost guage. I coulda sworn it was electical too, but na, it's mechanical.

And yes, you'll have to wait to see the gauges
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