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Old 06-15-07, 12:07 AM
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Cool 6.5" rounds in FD front?

has anyone fit 6.5" speakers into the front of the FD? if so how much cutting is involved, and do you have a picture of what you did and the final results?

also what is the stock non-bose size for the fronts? does anyone have a picture of the stock front brackets.... ive got the bose in both my FD's and the bracket is custom formed around all the bose components and appears useless for mounting an after market set of speakers. thanks for anyone who can help. -Heath
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I put 6.5" up front on mine but you do have to cut the speaker faceplate and the back of the speaker holder. but you can do it. It took me about 3 hours with my dremel
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its all about mounting depth, needs to have less than 2.5" mounting depth.
heres a pic of the pod i just built to go under the door panel

heres a pic of my old kickpanel that had 7" mid in it

pic of my custom job i did in the rear to accommodate 6.5s
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anyone with any other suggestions for getting them in the door? the speakers that i have are rather shallow (polk SR6500's) but that window looks mighty close. i need to actually "dig in" but i wanted a heads up before i go making a custom bracket.
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Heath, shame you! That is prob. THE MOST COMMONLY ASKED QUESTION in the Interior/Exterior/Audio section, and as such has been answered prob 1200 times now lol. The ONLY thread that beats it (I think) is the "What body kit/part is this" thread

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The stock non-Bose door speakers are actually shallow 6.5". The Factory Workshop Manual lists them as 6.3", but they would be sold as 6.5" speakers in the aftermarket -- they are 6.5" speakers for all intents and purposes. But they are shallow, and many aftermarket 6.5" speakers will be too deep. 2.5" depth is about the absolute max for mounting on the stock brackets (while cutting out the back), but even that is pushing it. I recommend 2.25" or less if you can find something you like with those dimensions. I used some shallow Eclipse 6.5" speakers (can't remember the model #) that mounted up just fine after I cut out the back plastic.

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Heath, shame you! That is prob. THE MOST COMMONLY ASKED QUESTION in the Interior/Exterior/Audio section, and as such has been answered prob 1200 times now lol. The ONLY thread that beats it (I think) is the "What body kit/part is this" thread

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haha judging my my post count youd think id have learned to SEARCH... but im a newb at heart. i knew about the 2.5" depth for the stock speakers but my question related more to the what if scenario where your speakers are deeper than 2.5". what i was really getting at was, what if anything can be done to push them out further (before hitting the door covering) such as building an extension bracket, and what my space constraints are.
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just checked... the polks are 2 9/16 mounting depth. thats too deep... but id only need to bring them out a bit. im not so worried now... the polks were shallower than i thought. now on to where the hell to mount the x-overs. with rear seats i dont have much left in the way of hiding spots
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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
haha judging my my post count youd think id have learned to SEARCH... but im a newb at heart.
Hehe. NOOB!! lol

i knew about the 2.5" depth for the stock speakers but my question related more to the what if scenario where your speakers are deeper than 2.5". what i was really getting at was, what if anything can be done to push them out further (before hitting the door covering) such as building an extension bracket, and what my space constraints are.
I mean, it's not a big deal if they're too deep...you just won't be able to roll down the windows all the way! LOL!

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just checked... the polks are 2 9/16 mounting depth. thats too deep... but id only need to bring them out a bit. im not so worried now... the polks were shallower than i thought. now on to where the hell to mount the x-overs. with rear seats i dont have much left in the way of hiding spots
Ok Heath, you need somethin better than Polks. Throw that junk away. Go with something QUALITY like Boston Acoustics, MB Quarts, etc. Your 20B deserves better

Oh and for the X-overs, try mounting them behind the rear panels. Should work just fine.

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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Hehe. NOOB!! lol

I mean, it's not a big deal if they're too deep...you just won't be able to roll down the windows all the way! LOL!

Ok Heath, you need somethin better than Polks. Throw that junk away. Go with something QUALITY like Boston Acoustics, MB Quarts, etc. Your 20B deserves better

Oh and for the X-overs, try mounting them behind the rear panels. Should work just fine.

~Ramy
the SR series sounded damn good to me. i have a set of polk lsi9's at home and they have some of the flattest/clearest/and not harsh response ive heard for that price range. i got them for 450/set (one front one back). there are better speakers out there but im out of cash. i had a lapse in judgment and bought a nakamichi cd700II and an audison vrx-4.300 to power everything. after that (and the bumper GB ) i was flat broke and was lucky i even ended up with those polks .
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LOL. It's a vicious circle I tell ya... hehe
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polks db650 fits fine in the base r1 brackets (i was able to get a pair of brackets from fritz flynn). they are under 2.5" . i bought them from crutchfield for $60.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-dsfuqRy...=fp&I=107DB650

they sound much better the the rockfordfosgate fnq components i had in the bose enclosure.
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Hehe. NOOB!! lol

I mean, it's not a big deal if they're too deep...you just won't be able to roll down the windows all the way! LOL!

Ok Heath, you need somethin better than Polks. Throw that junk away. Go with something QUALITY like Boston Acoustics, MB Quarts, etc. Your 20B deserves better

Oh and for the X-overs, try mounting them behind the rear panels. Should work just fine.

~Ramy
is there enough room for 4 x-overs behind the rear seat panels? these polk crossovers are rather large, but id rather not go to active crossovers
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie

Ok Heath, you need somethin better than Polks. Throw that junk away. Go with something QUALITY like Boston Acoustics, MB Quarts, etc. Your 20B deserves better
Polk's db series is actually pretty decent. Not bad speakers at all for the money.
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Originally Posted by SpeedKing
Polk's db series is actually pretty decent. Not bad speakers at all for the money.
the DB's are bottom rung speakers. i have the momos (one step up) in my miata and even they are a bit tinny. the highs are too high and piercing... and the mid bass is nothing to write home about (but not horrible). i have DB's in the headrest spots (for a little rear fill) and they do sound rather cheap albeit they are 3.5" coax so i wasnt expecting much)

for my project FD i have the polk SR series which (from what i heard on the sound board) sound really flat and smooth. the tweeter is the best part... the clarity is awesome and they arent fatiguing to listen to for a long period of time. oh, and they LOVE power! i have a set of 6.5" SR6500 separates for up front and another set of the same separates for the rear. if they sound anything like my home audio lsi9's ill be more than happy!

heres the SR6500:


mounting/review: http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/IS...int=1&page=all
aparantly this guy had trouble finding room for the massive x-overs as well. not only will i have the same problem, i have *4* to hide, and no rear bins (backseat) and i REALLY dont want to stack them in the trunk.

ill be running them with a nakamichi cd700II


powered by an audison vrx 4.300
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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
the DB's are bottom rung speakers.
Yeah, I know they're cheap, but for the cheap speakers, they sound better than almost everything in their price range (IMO). I've been in car audio for a long time and have had everything from Quarts to Bostons to Diamonds to CDT Audio, JL, Image Dynamics, Zapco, etc., etc. Run your dbs through an amp and tell me if they don't sound better.

Anyway, looks like you're putting together a nice system. That Nak source unit is awesome, but what I don't like about it is you can't remove the face and keep it stealth. That would suck if it got jacked since these things are pretty rare and not cheap!
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BTW, as an aside, check this out. This won't fit because it's double DIN but I'd be curious to know what it sounds like with a nice amp and speakers:

http://www.uncrate.com/men/gear/car-...be-car-stereo/

Here's another high end source unit. Ugly and pricey but super clean:

http://cgi.ebay.com/MCINTOSH-MX406-A...QQcmdZViewItem
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Originally Posted by RotorMotor
is there enough room for 4 x-overs behind the rear seat panels? these polk crossovers are rather large, but id rather not go to active crossovers
4? Dunno. 2, definitely. Why do you have 4? Are you running dual components? Waste of money IMO. You don't need components in the rear. Rear is just "filler."

Originally Posted by SpeedKing
Polk's db series is actually pretty decent. Not bad speakers at all for the money.
OMG!!!! HE LIVES!!! LOL. Holy smokes Gil. Where ya been man? I had just about given up on you. Thought you called it quits! It's great to see you're still around man

Oh and yea, for the money being the operative word. I personally have yet to find a component set that sounds better than the Boston Acoustics Z6 (now SPZ60) Audiophile Component System. Absolutely phenomenal. The only exception is purpose-built & engineered systems like Dynaudio and ish. But that's just cheating lol.

~Ramy

PS: Funny you appear; I wanted to hollar @ ya and ask ya if you knew what the BEST shop to repair wheels in your area is. I mean 100% mint condition job, when money isn't the concern.
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OMG!!!! HE LIVES!!! LOL. Holy smokes Gil. Where ya been man? I had just about given up on you. Thought you called it quits! It's great to see you're still around man
I still have the FC and FD so I'm still around. I just don't visit in as much as I used to. Been busy and I have other interests. I bought a house last year and instead of checking out RX-7 Club and NoPistons, I'm checking out Crate & Barrel and Williams-Sonoma now. "Modding" the house is my new thing.

PS: Funny you appear; I wanted to hollar @ ya and ask ya if you knew what the BEST shop to repair wheels in your area is. I mean 100% mint condition job, when money isn't the concern.
Try:

http://www.wheeltechniques.com/

http://www.kwicksilversf.com/

Why do you ask, BTW?
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Originally Posted by SpeedKing
I still have the FC and FD so I'm still around. I just don't visit in as much as I used to. Been busy and I have other interests. I bought a house last year and instead of checking out RX-7 Club and NoPistons, I'm checking out Crate & Barrel and Williams-Sonoma now. "Modding" the house is my new thing.
Awww. Gil's been domesticated! Just playin hehe. Congrats man...that's awesome. Glad to see you still have the rotaries around!

Perfect. Wheel Techniques was the one I was looking for. A friend had some wheels he wanted restored to MINT, and I couldn't remember the name of the shop (I had come across it a few years back).

Since we're on the topic, you still big on wheels?

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Originally Posted by FDNewbie

Since we're on the topic, you still big on wheels?
I've always been big on wheels. They're just like shoes - they can make or break the look. I used to collect Nike Air Jordans and Air Max 95s...

I'm currently rocking the stock 16s w/ Potenza S0-3s. Caught a nail in one of my 18" 3-piece Enkeis and haven't gotten around to fixing it. Curiously, I kinda like the lighter wheel. Makes the car feel nimble.
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Originally Posted by SpeedKing
I've always been big on wheels. They're just like shoes - they can make or break the look. I used to collect Nike Air Jordans and Air Max 95s...
Yea I remember you told me that back in the day

I'm currently rocking the stock 16s w/ Potenza S0-3s. Caught a nail in one of my 18" 3-piece Enkeis and haven't gotten around to fixing it. Curiously, I kinda like the lighter wheel. Makes the car feel nimble.
Yea I've heard that many a time. I don't think I ever used the stockers long enough to notice the difference. Maybe I should sometime...

FYI, I know they're not 18s, but the OEM 17" wheels are about 17 lbs IIRC. Still very light
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I have a set of 6.5 components in my front doors. I made a spacer that I fastened to the door. I used a set of Infinity referance series. Didn't mess with the stock door grill. It all fits inside...Looks stock..
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I have a set of 6.5 components in my front doors. I made a spacer that I fastened to the door. I used a set of Infinity referance series. Didn't mess with the stock door grill. It all fits inside...Looks stock..
awesome! thats my plan.

the last thing to decide is where to mount the 4 tweeters. i really dont want to cut holes in the door panels and the rear panels but if i have to i have to. i wont be upgrading the system after this (unless something happens to break). with these speakers i also have the option to mount the tweeter as a coaxial setup. if you look at the picture the cone in the center of the woofers can be removed and a mount for the tweeters can be installed. i just wonder how it going to sound.


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