Haltech Wideband O2 directly hooked to E6K
Wideband O2 directly hooked to E6K
I did some searching around and haven't concluded if anyone has been able to hook a 5v WB O2 sensor directly to the E6K with the 5v O2 sensor enabled? I'm thinking of getting this unit and trying it out, as inexpensive as it is... some places have it listed for almost $200 so I'm certain its the real deal.
http://www.wbo2.com/lsu/default.htm
http://www.wbo2.com/lsu/default.htm
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From: The Elysian Fields (Texas)
I have both the WBO2 and E6K. So far, both work like a Champ!
WBO2's "WBLin" output connects to the E6K's "Spare Input." You'll need the E6K 6.34u software to have the 0-5 voltage options. Then configure the Haltech's "Spare Input" (Input/Output Page) to "General." The WBO2 will output the AFR voltage as [(AFR-9)/2], such that:
AFR Voltage
10 0.5
11 1.0
12 1.5
. .
. .
. .
Under this configuration, the AFR voltage is then read in the Engine Data or the Datalog pages as "Spare A/D."
WBO2's "WBLin" output connects to the E6K's "Spare Input." You'll need the E6K 6.34u software to have the 0-5 voltage options. Then configure the Haltech's "Spare Input" (Input/Output Page) to "General." The WBO2 will output the AFR voltage as [(AFR-9)/2], such that:
AFR Voltage
10 0.5
11 1.0
12 1.5
. .
. .
. .
Under this configuration, the AFR voltage is then read in the Engine Data or the Datalog pages as "Spare A/D."
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From: The Elysian Fields (Texas)
I agree with MoeSpeed in that the Haltech uses an M&W profiled voltage-to-AFM conversion. IF you setup the E6K to DIRECTLY display the AFM (i.e. "Spare A/D" or "Trim Input" to "UEGO AIR/FUEL"), it will display that possibley inaccurate AFM.
However, if you setup the Haltech like I describe above, and correlate the "Spare A/D" voltage displayed to the voltage-to-AFM output of your particular WB, it's possible to infer the actual AFM sensed by any 0-5v WB.
However, if you setup the Haltech like I describe above, and correlate the "Spare A/D" voltage displayed to the voltage-to-AFM output of your particular WB, it's possible to infer the actual AFM sensed by any 0-5v WB.
Originally posted by setzep
I don't see a reason why you coulden't do the same thing using the LM-1 WB. Just program the output to suit the haltech.
I don't see a reason why you coulden't do the same thing using the LM-1 WB. Just program the output to suit the haltech.
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Originally posted by carlos@the-rotary.net
I agree with MoeSpeed in that the Haltech uses an M&W profiled voltage-to-AFM conversion. IF you setup the E6K to DIRECTLY display the AFM (i.e. "Spare A/D" or "Trim Input" to "UEGO AIR/FUEL"), it will display that possibley inaccurate AFM.
However, if you setup the Haltech like I describe above, and correlate the "Spare A/D" voltage displayed to the voltage-to-AFM output of your particular WB, it's possible to infer the actual AFM sensed by any 0-5v WB.
I agree with MoeSpeed in that the Haltech uses an M&W profiled voltage-to-AFM conversion. IF you setup the E6K to DIRECTLY display the AFM (i.e. "Spare A/D" or "Trim Input" to "UEGO AIR/FUEL"), it will display that possibley inaccurate AFM.
However, if you setup the Haltech like I describe above, and correlate the "Spare A/D" voltage displayed to the voltage-to-AFM output of your particular WB, it's possible to infer the actual AFM sensed by any 0-5v WB.
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Originally posted by setzep
I don't see a reason why you coulden't do the same thing using the LM-1 WB. Just program the output to suit the haltech.
I don't see a reason why you coulden't do the same thing using the LM-1 WB. Just program the output to suit the haltech.
http://www.mwignitions.com/pdf/UegInf8.pdf
On this page:
http://www.mwignitions.com/uego.htm
Page 5 has a graph of output voltage vs AFR
Originally posted by carlos@the-rotary.net
I have both the WBO2 and E6K. So far, both work like a Champ!
WBO2's "WBLin" output connects to the E6K's "Spare Input." You'll need the E6K 6.34u software to have the 0-5 voltage options. Then configure the Haltech's "Spare Input" (Input/Output Page) to "General." The WBO2 will output the AFR voltage as [(AFR-9)/2], such that:
AFR Voltage
10 0.5
11 1.0
12 1.5
. .
. .
. .
Under this configuration, the AFR voltage is then read in the Engine Data or the Datalog pages as "Spare A/D."
I have both the WBO2 and E6K. So far, both work like a Champ!
WBO2's "WBLin" output connects to the E6K's "Spare Input." You'll need the E6K 6.34u software to have the 0-5 voltage options. Then configure the Haltech's "Spare Input" (Input/Output Page) to "General." The WBO2 will output the AFR voltage as [(AFR-9)/2], such that:
AFR Voltage
10 0.5
11 1.0
12 1.5
. .
. .
. .
Under this configuration, the AFR voltage is then read in the Engine Data or the Datalog pages as "Spare A/D."
So is it possible to use it via the trim control inputs... I'm wanting to use my Spare A/D for aux rev limit... ie when I take it in for services that I don't do. I'll flip through the ol manual and see what I can dig up too.
Originally posted by carlos@the-rotary.net
I have both the WBO2 and E6K. So far, both work like a Champ!
WBO2's "WBLin" output connects to the E6K's "Spare Input." You'll need the E6K 6.34u software to have the 0-5 voltage options. Then configure the Haltech's "Spare Input" (Input/Output Page) to "General." The WBO2 will output the AFR voltage as [(AFR-9)/2], such that:
AFR Voltage
10 0.5
11 1.0
12 1.5
. .
. .
. .
Under this configuration, the AFR voltage is then read in the Engine Data or the Datalog pages as "Spare A/D."
I have both the WBO2 and E6K. So far, both work like a Champ!
WBO2's "WBLin" output connects to the E6K's "Spare Input." You'll need the E6K 6.34u software to have the 0-5 voltage options. Then configure the Haltech's "Spare Input" (Input/Output Page) to "General." The WBO2 will output the AFR voltage as [(AFR-9)/2], such that:
AFR Voltage
10 0.5
11 1.0
12 1.5
. .
. .
. .
Under this configuration, the AFR voltage is then read in the Engine Data or the Datalog pages as "Spare A/D."
Another thing you might have noticed is that it reads 0.47V on Haltech data page when there is nothing going into the spare AD. I think this has to do with the inaccuracy with reading low voltage on the spare AD.
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last time we dynoed we were confused because the wb display and the spare ad were different, and then on top of that the dynos wideband was also different.
mike
mike
Originally posted by j9fd3s
last time we dynoed we were confused because the wb display and the spare ad were different, and then on top of that the dynos wideband was also different.
mike
last time we dynoed we were confused because the wb display and the spare ad were different, and then on top of that the dynos wideband was also different.
mike
my voltage readings were all correct. i did the math from voltage to actual AFR and it matched up 100% since i had both on at the same time
Originally posted by j9fd3s
last time we dynoed we were confused because the wb display and the spare ad were different, and then on top of that the dynos wideband was also different.
mike
last time we dynoed we were confused because the wb display and the spare ad were different, and then on top of that the dynos wideband was also different.
mike
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Originally posted by enzo250
this is probably due to the fact that the display and the e6k are not connected with the same ground.
this is probably due to the fact that the display and the e6k are not connected with the same ground.
This is awesome info guys, I appreciate it. The aux rev limiter isn't a big deal I spose... I did happend to email Haltech support out of curiousity and they said that it is necessary to use a driver to interface the ECU and WBO2, it sounds to me like the heating control of the WBO2 is the reason for this. Something about the Haltech not properly controlling the heating of WBO2's, I've read a bit into how WB's work, and the heating control is quite important. However I can't argue the fact that a couple of you have got it working fine. Far as the voltage offset goes, if it is linear, maybe you can just put a Potentiometer inline with it and use it to fine tune the offset with respect to what the haltech thinks its seeing.








