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Old May 26, 2004 | 12:35 AM
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No Engine speed... out of ideas.

I have checked double checked and recheked everything. My CAS does not seem to be talking with my Haltech E6X, the connections are right, While cranking it shows 0, I did see it go up to 60 once but that was the once and only time, could my CAS be gone, or the haltech have an error?
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Old May 26, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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try another cas? you can plug it in and spin it by hand to see if it works.

how did you hook it up? e6x is different i think, than the e6k
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Old May 26, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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is it differemnt? I was under the umderstamding that is wasn't.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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CAS is wired incorrectly.

To stop wasting battery power, you can yank the CAS out of the engine and spin it by hand.  It SHOULD read something on RPM's.


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Old May 26, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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could you enlighten me as to the correct wiring colours?
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Old May 27, 2004 | 03:30 AM
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Check out K2RD?
They have wiring diagrams posted.
Also, some guy mentioned on the Haltech Support list that the CAS wire colors were wrong when inspecting the pick-ups in the CAS itself.
You might want to verify that the wire pairs are going to the correct pick-ups in the CAS by popping off the cover.


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Old May 27, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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how do I find the correct wires going to the correct picup?
I didn't find a wiring diagram of it in the FSM?
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Old May 27, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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You want to verify that HOME wires are connected to the pick-up that tracks the two teeth gear.

TRIGGER wires should go to the other pick-up that tracks the 24 tooth gear.

We won't worry about polarity until you've confirmed that the wires are connected to the right pick-up.

Also, if you're using the stock CAS plug, you might want to take it apart and clean the pins.  I've run into LOTS of headaches tring to reuse these plugs on Haltech installs.



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Old May 27, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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I had already pulled apart and cleaned the pugs and pins prior to splicing it with the haltech harness.
As for the pickups, they are correct.
Fuses are all good... and still no Engine speed..
This is really starting to frustrate me... this is all i need to get the car on the road!
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Old May 27, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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dont you have to wire it differently, because the e11 and e6x have the ra8 built in? mine works but i dont remember how its wired up. i think you just ground the - side of both pickups?
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Old May 27, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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care you explain what exactly you are talking about?
I don'tknow exactly what you are refering to!
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Old May 28, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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care you explain what exactly you are talking about?
I don'tknow exactly what you are refering to!
i think on the e6x and e11 you ground the - side of each reluctor, they use a different one than the e6k. i'm not 100% sure though
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Old May 28, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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well Would it hurt anything to simply try things, I mean grab 4 alligator clips and keep trying till I get something, If I don't then it must be the CAS... correct?
Again will this hurt anything.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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bump... still searching for a solution... does anybody think it is indeed my CAS.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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try another cas?
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Old May 29, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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I bought one.. just incase but I am still waiting for it to arrice, in the mean time I would like to exhaust all other possible causes.
Any more suggestions?
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Old May 30, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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alright today I went to try a new CAS, and now my laptop will not communicate with the Haltech, I mean nothing happned to the laptop, because it stayed in the car... never moved. so what would cause this... could my haltech have a problem?
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Old May 31, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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i am having the same problem, double check your grounding on the ECU...

please remember, there are essentially two grounds on the haltech harness, one really long black ground which grounds the relay to turn the haltech on, i assume this is done properly since you are communicating with the haltech via laptop

the other is rather short, and if not grounded, the ECU has nothing to ground the CAS with, I am currently experiencing this same issue, and have discovered my ECU ground wire to be loose, I have not tested since tightening....letting my battery charge back up
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Old May 31, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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well, i checked my ground, no luck...this really sucks
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Old May 31, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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I will give that a try when it stops raining (3 days and counting)
Thanks.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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verify all wiring to the correct ECU. I do not have any experience with the X model, but I have had a similair problem with the K model. the ECU did not read the CAS signal correctly. after trying several CAS's I called the guys in Australia and they said that sometimes the ECU had to be modified for different OEM type pick ups, they said a "pull down resistor" needed to be removed and it should work fine. I spoke with someone at Haltech USA(when there still was one) and I sent them the ECU and when it returned it worked correctly. I never could tell what was done, but it worked after the FED/EX trip to dallas and back to LA. I don't know if the X model has any of these issues, but I would call and talk to the tech guys in Australia if the wiring is correct and sound. the Mazda CAS is very robust and isn't prone to failures.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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I am actually corresponding with them via email! they have had me try out a few things and so far, nothing has helped.
They are being helpfull. I will mention this to them and see what they say.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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I just encountered the same problem yesterday. Does your injector duty cycle and timing read zero in addition to your engine speed? If so, then it should be either the cas or the wiring to the haltech shield wires.
I checked the wiring and it was correct according to Hitmans site so I figured a connection or the cas itself. I clipped off the stock cas plug and sautered a gm 4-wire weatherpack on Then I clipped just before my sauter job on the Haltech side where the stock plug was wired on and also (obviously) sautered on a gm weatherpack.
Basically I had either a faulty sauter job or the plugs themselves were bad because I wired it up the same as before (according to Hitmans site).
Problem solved in my case.

Or a bad ground somewhere. Someone (RETed maybe?) just posted pics from the inside of the Haltech loom and the ground wires were sautered together like ****. Supposedly many (if not all) are like this. Of course I found this out just after mine was installed. Could be worth looking into...

Hitman cas wiring instructions:
http://www.hitman.hm/installation.htm

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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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thanks I will take a look at that also, at this point anything is worth a try.
Thanks.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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Alright I tried the little black ground it is good, I bought a new connector for the cas to haltech harness! still no good.
I am hoping that Haltech has some miracle for me.
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