Haltech Help. No spark elite 550 with haltech coils
09-01-18, 03:32 PM
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Help. Very weak spark elite 550 with haltech coils
what’s up guys. I installed an elite 550 on my fc with a s5 street ported motor haltech smart coils ht-020114 with Denso 800cc injectors. This is my tuner’s first time with the esp software and I’m not versed in haltechs or anything along the tuning lines . We’ve got all the sensors calibrated and everything ready to fire up now when we try to crank for spark I’m getting a very weak spark Its so weak that we see nothing on the timing light when cranking, so we hooked up noid lights and sure enough theres spark but on the leading it’s very very weak. The trailing seems to be fine. Igrounded the coils on rotor housing one and two, even changed out the battery Is this a software issue or a install issue. I’m sorry for the long post. But any help is appreciated. Thank you guys
Last edited by vish86; 09-02-18 at 08:34 AM.
09-03-18, 04:21 PM
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We set it at 4ms to see if we get a stronger spark. But only the trailing is showin a strong spark. The leading coils are still very weak. I have the grounds set up like this. Leading 1 trailing 1 combined and grounded on rotor housing 1, leading 2 trailing 2 grounded at rotor housing 2. Also in the esp software. When we set the ignition setup to a fc style crank it’s still showing a 60-2 setup. Is there any way to change this ? It’s grated out and not allOwing us to make any changes to the tooth setup
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09-04-18, 03:31 PM
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After looking through the elite software, it looks like it only lets you change it if you choose a generic trigger type, but if you start out with a RX7 base map, its already set to 12 and 2.
09-04-18, 09:53 PM
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what’s up guys. I installed an elite 550 on my fc with a s5 street ported motor haltech smart coils ht-020114 with Denso 800cc injectors. This is my tuner’s first time with the esp software and I’m not versed in haltechs or anything along the tuning lines . We’ve got all the sensors calibrated and everything ready to fire up now when we try to crank for spark I’m getting a very weak spark Its so weak that we see nothing on the timing light when cranking, so we hooked up noid lights and sure enough theres spark but on the leading it’s very very weak. The trailing seems to be fine. Igrounded the coils on rotor housing one and two, even changed out the battery Is this a software issue or a install issue. I’m sorry for the long post. But any help is appreciated. Thank you guys
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09-05-18, 05:19 AM
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We have direct fire mode selected in the software. I’m thinking it’s more of a wiring/voltage issue. I wired the car up as per haltech’s diagram so I had my coils/injectors/ecu on one 30amp relay. I moved the injectors to another relay and I’m now getting spark on the coils. Now for some reason my injector pulse is very weak. We put noid lights on them and they were very dim,i had the battery charger on it.Today I’m going to change the battery out and maybe wire up another relay to just ecu power so everything is dedicated. Do these coils draw that much power? Or is it just a low voltage issue. I’ve double checked all my grounds btw.
09-05-18, 07:21 AM
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One thing you should check is injector impedance. I'm not sure if these newfangled Haltechs let you chose whether you're running high or low impedance, but I'm sure Skeese can tell you. Probably not your problem, but probably a good thing to check.
09-05-18, 08:06 AM
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They’re high impedance Denso injectors I was under the impression that the haltech can run high impedance injectors without a problem but I may be wrong . I’m changing the battery today and separating the ecu power from the ignition coils which shouldn’t be an issue in the first place . I’ll let you guys know what’s the results. I just wanna say thank you guys so much for your input on this.
09-05-18, 12:16 PM
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They’re high impedance Denso injectors I was under the impression that the haltech can run high impedance injectors without a problem but I may be wrong . I’m changing the battery today and separating the ecu power from the ignition coils which shouldn’t be an issue in the first place . I’ll let you guys know what’s the results. I just wanna say thank you guys so much for your input on this.
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09-05-18, 05:05 PM
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Injector impedance setting defaults to high impedance. The wrong setting there won’t effect the spark output anyway. So that’s not the issue.
You mention not having the correct trigger mode selected. Why are you even trying to start it without ensuring the most basic setup isn’t correct? Post your map so we can see what you’re working with.
You mention not having the correct trigger mode selected. Why are you even trying to start it without ensuring the most basic setup isn’t correct? Post your map so we can see what you’re working with.
09-05-18, 06:32 PM
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I’ve changed the battery to a good one. Double checked the grounds once again. The settings for the injectors are set to high. While cranking I’m getting 10.8v on the plug and still nothing. We selected the trigger type to FC even though we set it to fc style crank the settings on the page still says 60-2. I’ll try to get a map from him and post it up. Thank you
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I’ve changed the battery to a good one. Double checked the grounds once again. The settings for the injectors are set to high. While cranking I’m getting 10.8v on the plug and still nothing. We selected the trigger type to FC even though we set it to fc style crank the settings on the page still says 60-2. I’ll try to get a map from him and post it up. Thank you
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09-05-18, 08:02 PM
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09-05-18, 08:57 PM
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I’m sorry guys I’m not well versed on the tuning side of things. I’m just trying to explain it as best as I could. But I’m pretty sure he said when he selected FC for trigger type the tooth count went to 12-1. Hey Chris I’ll get him so send me the map tomorrow and I’ll post it or send it to you. Again thank you guys so much for your help and time. I really appreciate it.