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Old 10-14-05, 09:08 PM
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Angry help me :) fd e6x :(

I cannot get my FD to start no matter what I do.

Mods:
Street ported motor
Twin t25 turbos
Upgrade stock mount IC
1600 secondary
FPR

I don’t have my turbo actually plumbed to my intake yet I’m still waiting on the intake hose but I wouldn’t think that would keep the car from starting.

This is a brand new motor never been started, never even tries.

Right now my trigger angle is 65 with a tooth offset at 11. I can’t check the timing but I do know all the plugs are firing. If I lock the timing at -5 I can get the mark to line up but only while cranking, seeing as I can’t get her to start I can’t actually check the timing.

My fuel pressure is 40 so that would be normal.

It’s not even trying to start any one have any suggestions?

I/m about ready to just tow it up to gothem and let them fix her. 
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Are you sure your injectors are firing, or that you're actually getting fuel in the engine? Pull the plugs and see if they're wet.

And no, since your using an MAP based system not having the turbo piping hooked up shouldn't affect the car starting. I just got my brand new rebuild started and drove it a couple dozen miles and the turbo isn't hooked to anything. (Man that thing is LOUD when it's spooling with nothing to push against!). I even have a pretty huge vacuum leak on the LIM and it still runs (knock on wood lol )
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well at least I know I'm not crazy when it comes to the whole no intake deal.

I was working on my wiring last night and figued out somehow I wired by AUX out, to my Fans? instead of my tach. So now I'm in the process of pulling the wireing and checking it over again.

I know the engine is getting fuel you can smell it, and the plugs are wet when i pull them
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Wait, if this is an FD, tooth offset goes at 5 i believe. Also, what size primaries are you using, and who did your initial mapping? how do you have it wired up on ignition, are you using factory components? Did you hook it up as distributor and toggle enabled? or direct fire? Are the injectors enabled?
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stock 550's
using one of the maps for the X off your post
ignition is wired from haltech to igniter to coils to plugs, direct fire

injectors are enabled, its flooding after about 1min of cranking

Its making no effort to start. I havent been able to set the base timing, Ive seen numbers for 65-76 for trigger angle and 2-11 for offset.
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Are you getting RPM spikes? noise in the trigger? what is the gain set at? The map is setup for toggle, not direct fire, if memory serves, you may need to rewire it, unless you changed that already ot direct fire?
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Im using the stock harness so im not getting any noise, gains are set at 0.

I changed the map settings to direct fire.

upon futher inspection I think I might have switch the front and read primary injector clips. I fixed that but havent tried to start her yet.
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Well, that shouldnt really be a problem, since both primaries fire at the same time, but im assuming you also wired it in direct fire, ign1 to the primaries and ing2 and ign3 to the secondaries?
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yes, the harness is wired for direct fire thru the igniter
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Is the ignition inputs and outputs on the haltech and to the igniter the same? falling edges etc? specially on the crank sensors? i honestly didnt configure that map for an FD so, im not sure if they are the same?
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its all pretty much the same, Ive pretty much given up, going to cart her up to gotham racing this weekend.
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