Haltech Haltech Introduces Elite ECU at SEMA
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From: Floyds Knobs. IN
any more details than that page? I see a mention of drive by wire and knock control.
It seems like there aren't many options for easy drive by wire conversions. I'd like to see a standalone that says "ok, buy thess GM part #s for the DBW hardware, fill out this wizard in the software for base throttle mapping, and then use this type of procedure to tune it"
It seems like there aren't many options for easy drive by wire conversions. I'd like to see a standalone that says "ok, buy thess GM part #s for the DBW hardware, fill out this wizard in the software for base throttle mapping, and then use this type of procedure to tune it"
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Press release - http://forums.haltech.com/download/file.php?id=682
Some features include windowed knock control, logging directly to a USB stick for virtually unlimited volume of logs, VE tuning with up to 4 stages of injection, onboard DBW, cruise control when used with DBW, dual CAN-bus with OBDII capability.
Of those, the windowed knock control is what I'm probably most excited about. USB logging will be nice for circuit racers too.
There will be a twist on multiple maps on one ECU that allows multiple car profiles. Instead of just switching base maps, like the current Sport ECUs, the Elite will be able to switch all settings. Just like loading a new map. This makes it easy for one ECU to be swapped between multiple, very different platforms without the use of a laptop to reprogram it. You could swap the same ECU between your Corvette and RX-7 by simply unplugging it from one and plugging it into the other.
As far as DBW profiling, in my words, Haltech is extremely conservative with these sorts of things. DBW control is potentially a HUGE liability issue. I'm not certain how this will be handled for custom configurations and didn't think to ask when I had the opportunity over the weekend.
I did ask about traction control and was very specific about a need for it with a couple current projects. It's not on the spec sheet at this time but it should be in the works.
Some features include windowed knock control, logging directly to a USB stick for virtually unlimited volume of logs, VE tuning with up to 4 stages of injection, onboard DBW, cruise control when used with DBW, dual CAN-bus with OBDII capability.
Of those, the windowed knock control is what I'm probably most excited about. USB logging will be nice for circuit racers too.
There will be a twist on multiple maps on one ECU that allows multiple car profiles. Instead of just switching base maps, like the current Sport ECUs, the Elite will be able to switch all settings. Just like loading a new map. This makes it easy for one ECU to be swapped between multiple, very different platforms without the use of a laptop to reprogram it. You could swap the same ECU between your Corvette and RX-7 by simply unplugging it from one and plugging it into the other.
As far as DBW profiling, in my words, Haltech is extremely conservative with these sorts of things. DBW control is potentially a HUGE liability issue. I'm not certain how this will be handled for custom configurations and didn't think to ask when I had the opportunity over the weekend.
I did ask about traction control and was very specific about a need for it with a couple current projects. It's not on the spec sheet at this time but it should be in the works.
I talked to them at the booth at MIR about it, it's meant to compete with the up scale ecu's from motec and link, and to a certain extent infinity. It looks like a very promising unit, waiting to hear on price to see if I can give it a run.
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Will this thing run a 4 rotor with staged injection and direct fire ignition split to all 8 coils? See now I'm really pissed cause I could have asked all these questions at Sema.
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It's going to have 8 injection and 8 ignition drivers and I was told it would do sequential ignition on a V8. So, if they write the firmware, the hardware will be there to support it.
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Pin out isn't finalized. The connectors should be the same, so you could akways repin as needed to get things running.
Even if it runs the engine, you'll need to do some rewiring to take advantage of features that aren't accounted for in your patch loom. So it would be a good time to start over with a well built replacement harness.
Even if it runs the engine, you'll need to do some rewiring to take advantage of features that aren't accounted for in your patch loom. So it would be a good time to start over with a well built replacement harness.
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Features:
• Waterproof Case
• 8 x Fuel Injection Outputs
• 8 x Ignition Outputs
• 28 x Digital Outputs
• 10 x Analogue Voltage Inputs
• 6 x Engine Position Inputs with extensive trigger type support
• Oscilloscope – view and save crank and cam sensor waveforms
• Programmable Injector Peak and Hold Currents with open/short circuit diagnostics
• OBDII Capable – set and clear diagnostics trouble codes
• USB and Dual CAN Bus communications OEM and Haltech CAN expansion
• User definable 5D Tuning – ultimate tuning flexibility
• Drive By Wire (DBW) Throttle Control
• Cruise Control – Requires Electronic Throttle Control
• Quad Cam Control – Independently Variable
• Dual Channel Knock Control – With FFT analysis
• Auto Tune – Short and Long term fuel and ignition learning
• Staged Fuelling – Up to four stages of injectors
• Multi-fuel Support- Independent fuels can be used at once
• Multiple Profile/Calibration Tuning Up to 4 separate vehicles on the one ECU
• E85 Flex Fuel Ready – With additional boost tables
• Closed Loop Boost, Idle and 02 Contro
• Anti-Lag and Launch Control
• Data logging – Internal memory & external laptop logging
• USB data logging- Log direct to USB Flash Drive
• Black Box Logging – Additional logging that is always active
• Engine Protection – Set limits for sensors and protect the engine
• Multiple User Login – Restrict areas of the ECU based on passwords
• Waterproof Case
• 8 x Fuel Injection Outputs
• 8 x Ignition Outputs
• 28 x Digital Outputs
• 10 x Analogue Voltage Inputs
• 6 x Engine Position Inputs with extensive trigger type support
• Oscilloscope – view and save crank and cam sensor waveforms
• Programmable Injector Peak and Hold Currents with open/short circuit diagnostics
• OBDII Capable – set and clear diagnostics trouble codes
• USB and Dual CAN Bus communications OEM and Haltech CAN expansion
• User definable 5D Tuning – ultimate tuning flexibility
• Drive By Wire (DBW) Throttle Control
• Cruise Control – Requires Electronic Throttle Control
• Quad Cam Control – Independently Variable
• Dual Channel Knock Control – With FFT analysis
• Auto Tune – Short and Long term fuel and ignition learning
• Staged Fuelling – Up to four stages of injectors
• Multi-fuel Support- Independent fuels can be used at once
• Multiple Profile/Calibration Tuning Up to 4 separate vehicles on the one ECU
• E85 Flex Fuel Ready – With additional boost tables
• Closed Loop Boost, Idle and 02 Contro
• Anti-Lag and Launch Control
• Data logging – Internal memory & external laptop logging
• USB data logging- Log direct to USB Flash Drive
• Black Box Logging – Additional logging that is always active
• Engine Protection – Set limits for sensors and protect the engine
• Multiple User Login – Restrict areas of the ECU based on passwords
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What I'm hearing is very impressive. We still don't have a Beta unit in hand. Last word on that was a couple weeks. From what I'm hearing, the level of control is going to be at a whole new level for Haltech. The Pro ECUs are pretty impressive with what they can do, the Elite is going a step or two further still.
What I'm hearing is very impressive. We still don't have a Beta unit in hand. Last word on that was a couple weeks. From what I'm hearing, the level of control is going to be at a whole new level for Haltech. The Pro ECUs are pretty impressive with what they can do, the Elite is going a step or two further still.
Features:
• Waterproof Case
• 8 x Fuel Injection Outputs
• 8 x Ignition Outputs
• 28 x Digital Outputs
• 10 x Analogue Voltage Inputs
• 6 x Engine Position Inputs with extensive trigger type support
• Oscilloscope – view and save crank and cam sensor waveforms
• Programmable Injector Peak and Hold Currents with open/short circuit diagnostics
• OBDII Capable – set and clear diagnostics trouble codes
• USB and Dual CAN Bus communications OEM and Haltech CAN expansion
• User definable 5D Tuning – ultimate tuning flexibility
• Drive By Wire (DBW) Throttle Control
• Cruise Control – Requires Electronic Throttle Control
• Quad Cam Control – Independently Variable
• Dual Channel Knock Control – With FFT analysis
• Auto Tune – Short and Long term fuel and ignition learning
• Staged Fuelling – Up to four stages of injectors
• Multi-fuel Support- Independent fuels can be used at once
• Multiple Profile/Calibration Tuning Up to 4 separate vehicles on the one ECU
• E85 Flex Fuel Ready – With additional boost tables
• Closed Loop Boost, Idle and 02 Contro
• Anti-Lag and Launch Control
• Data logging – Internal memory & external laptop logging
• USB data logging- Log direct to USB Flash Drive
• Black Box Logging – Additional logging that is always active
• Engine Protection – Set limits for sensors and protect the engine
• Multiple User Login – Restrict areas of the ECU based on passwords
• Waterproof Case
• 8 x Fuel Injection Outputs
• 8 x Ignition Outputs
• 28 x Digital Outputs
• 10 x Analogue Voltage Inputs
• 6 x Engine Position Inputs with extensive trigger type support
• Oscilloscope – view and save crank and cam sensor waveforms
• Programmable Injector Peak and Hold Currents with open/short circuit diagnostics
• OBDII Capable – set and clear diagnostics trouble codes
• USB and Dual CAN Bus communications OEM and Haltech CAN expansion
• User definable 5D Tuning – ultimate tuning flexibility
• Drive By Wire (DBW) Throttle Control
• Cruise Control – Requires Electronic Throttle Control
• Quad Cam Control – Independently Variable
• Dual Channel Knock Control – With FFT analysis
• Auto Tune – Short and Long term fuel and ignition learning
• Staged Fuelling – Up to four stages of injectors
• Multi-fuel Support- Independent fuels can be used at once
• Multiple Profile/Calibration Tuning Up to 4 separate vehicles on the one ECU
• E85 Flex Fuel Ready – With additional boost tables
• Closed Loop Boost, Idle and 02 Contro
• Anti-Lag and Launch Control
• Data logging – Internal memory & external laptop logging
• USB data logging- Log direct to USB Flash Drive
• Black Box Logging – Additional logging that is always active
• Engine Protection – Set limits for sensors and protect the engine
• Multiple User Login – Restrict areas of the ECU based on passwords
So basically it looks like sort of like a MS3-Pro has except the Haltech has DBW and black box logging and the MS3 pro has full traction control and VE autotuning:
Freescale MC9S12X 16 bit, 50 MHz asymmetrical dual core processor
10 saturated injector drivers
8 logic level ignition outputs
3 high current (5 amp) general purpose outputs - 2 can be reconfigured as additional injector drivers, and all can be used as PWM outputs
3 medium current (3 amp), high frequency general purpose outputs
All unused injector and ignition outputs can be used as spare on/off or other outputs. This ECU has a LOT of I/O!
1 stepper H-bridge driver
Camshaft and crankshaft differential inputs - supports VR, Hall effect, and optical input
12 volt tach output
Fuel pump output
8 analog inputs (5 dedicated sensor inputs, 3 spare/general purpose)
4 spare digital on/off inputs
3 spare digital frequency inputs
2 knock sensor inputs
RS232, USB 2.0, and CAN communication
Onboard 8 gigabyte SD card for internal data logging
Internal ECU temperature sensor
Real time clock
Temperature range: -30 to +80 degrees C (-40 to +85 without battery for real time clock)
Software features:
Supports speed density, alpha-N (TPS based), or MAF based fuel and spark tables
1 microsecond injector pulse width resolution
Tables for nonlinear injector behavior at small pulse widths
Allows blending multiple load types, including specialized mode for independent throttle bodies
Supports a wide variety of OEM cam and crank position sensors
Individual cylinder trim tables for fuel and ignition
Accelerator pump or model based acceleration enrichment
Closed or open loop idle speed control
Closed or open loop boost control with two separate wastegate outputs, and gear or speed based tuning options
On/off or closed loop continuously variable valve timing (VVT) control - supports up to 4 channels
On/off or progressive nitrous control
Traction control by VSS or RPM
Rally anti-lag with rotational idle
Rotary support - can run up to 4 rotor engines with separate leading and trailing spark tables
Staged injection
Table switching
16 x 16 fuel and spark tables - can be reconfigured to function as 30 x 16 or 16 x 30 by switching tables based on RPM or load
2 or 3 step rev limiter (launch control) with no-lift shifting
Wideband AFR target tables
Flex fuel sensor input for easy switching between gasoline and E85 - can automatically change fuel, ignition, and boost maps based on ethanol content of gasoline
Knock control with adjustable crank angle windowing can adjust sensitivity based on RPM or which cylinder is firing
Allows repurposing injector or ignition outputs as general purpose outputs, or high current outputs as injector drivers for 12 cylinder sequential applications
Real time barometric correction (external sensor required)
A/C and cooling fan control with idle compensation
Safety shutdown based on AFR or EGT input
Sequential shift cut and air shifter control
Diagnostics to detect and ignore failing sensors - can even automatically switch from speed density to alpha-N in the event of a MAP sensor failure
Any word on a release date? Or MSRP? I'm in the market for a new EMS and I'm looking for something that supports VE, E85 and blended fuel, auto-tuning, and all of the other new awesome stuff like the AEM Infinity has.





