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11-15-12, 10:28 AM
#15
either way it's still a vague question.
long block engines can't put out as much power without twisting. 12A>13B>20B
high compression engines are limited in power capability, ie boost limited. 13B-MSP renesis< anything above 275 crank horsepower
V8's cannot rev as high or freely as a rotary engine but they have a much more flat torque curve to make power all around. 13B <+/-> V8
turbo V8 owns a rotary hands down, 13B lovers can whine and moan all they want. turbo V8>>>>>13B
difference is a 13B does not equal V8 displacement, though it does equal modern V8 engine weight.
that is all
long block engines can't put out as much power without twisting. 12A>13B>20B
high compression engines are limited in power capability, ie boost limited. 13B-MSP renesis< anything above 275 crank horsepower
V8's cannot rev as high or freely as a rotary engine but they have a much more flat torque curve to make power all around. 13B <+/-> V8
turbo V8 owns a rotary hands down, 13B lovers can whine and moan all they want. turbo V8>>>>>13B
difference is a 13B does not equal V8 displacement, though it does equal modern V8 engine weight.
that is all
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 11-15-12 at 10:38 AM.
11-15-12, 10:40 AM
#17
because the rotary is a spirit killer engine, even the most hardcore of us have a hard time defending these pieces of **** sometimes. but only a few who have totally disowned the rotary will admit that a V8 is a better alternative, in some ways it is, in others it isn't. if the 20B was more readily available you'd hear less whining, more swaps and more n/a conversions making decent reliable figures(at the cost of fuel consumption where the V8s would still rule over the rotary).
my favorite would be a 90* phased 4 rotor, **** V8s because they will never make you squirm at a sound like that.
my favorite would be a 90* phased 4 rotor, **** V8s because they will never make you squirm at a sound like that.
Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 11-15-12 at 10:45 AM.
11-15-12, 09:23 PM
#19
The rotary is just so far behind the piston engine in technology and R&D over the past 100 years it really isn't a fair comparison. Even if it did have the same development as the piston engine there were be only a few places where the rotary would be better. If you are only concerned about a smooth long liniar power delivery and a engine that is very compact for it's power potential then the rotary is the way to go. Once you starting being concerned with MPG, reliablity, torque, cost of parts, then there really isn't a comparison.
The rotary delivers a driving experience that is much more in tune with performance driving. For me it is about the driving experience. Blazing accelleration? nah. Huge power numbers? 120 whp :P Perfect balance and a engine that loves to rev, YES.
Mazda needs to put a next gen 13b in the miata chassis and keep it under 2600 lbs. a 16X isn't needed. 240-250 hp would be more than enough. Take it back the the FB roots. Strip it down, keep it cheap and light. The RX8 was successful but a failure at the same time. Do what Toyota did with the GT86 but even more bare bones.
The rotary delivers a driving experience that is much more in tune with performance driving. For me it is about the driving experience. Blazing accelleration? nah. Huge power numbers? 120 whp :P Perfect balance and a engine that loves to rev, YES.
Mazda needs to put a next gen 13b in the miata chassis and keep it under 2600 lbs. a 16X isn't needed. 240-250 hp would be more than enough. Take it back the the FB roots. Strip it down, keep it cheap and light. The RX8 was successful but a failure at the same time. Do what Toyota did with the GT86 but even more bare bones.
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