lighter flywheel--worth it?
10-13-02, 01:08 PM
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Id do it if I was already changing out my clutch. Havent been in any 7's with a lightened flywheels but in my 240's days, one of my friends replaced his and it seemed to make a pretty big difference, his car looked like it was revving up much quicker.
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And a little more difficult going up hills etc. Also for turbo cars I hear its better to avoid going with too light of a flywheel. I'll look up some info on that and get back to you......
10-13-02, 04:08 PM
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On a street car, there's no point.
I beg to differ.
So long as you don't go lighter than lightened steel, you get more horsepower to the WHEELS and still maintain a decent measure of drive ability.
My first (and still have) 2nd Gen is a '88 Vert. Love the car, but it is the most wanting for more power 2nd Gen made. Free flowing K&N Filter, free flowing exhaust tweeks, AND a lightened flywheel has made ALL the difference in the world in improving the drive ability of my Vert.
For daily driving, however, do not.... I repeat DO NOT go aluminum. WAY too light for decent driveability in freeway stop and go traffic.
So long as you don't go lighter than lightened steel, you get more horsepower to the WHEELS and still maintain a decent measure of drive ability.
My first (and still have) 2nd Gen is a '88 Vert. Love the car, but it is the most wanting for more power 2nd Gen made. Free flowing K&N Filter, free flowing exhaust tweeks, AND a lightened flywheel has made ALL the difference in the world in improving the drive ability of my Vert.
For daily driving, however, do not.... I repeat DO NOT go aluminum. WAY too light for decent driveability in freeway stop and go traffic.
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10-13-02, 05:36 PM
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You guys are a bunch of wimps :p . I've had two different cars, an awd talon and my rex...both turbo cars and both with 9 lb flywheels. There is NO loss in driveablity. Turbo spool up is quicker and throttle response is awsome. I used the talon to commute to detroit and back from toledo. The only thing that sucked was the heavy pressure plate. If you've never tried it, then don't comment on it.
10-13-02, 08:00 PM
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I've had it for 3+ years and love it...would do it again. A buddy of mine got the same one on his '87 TII and also loves it, he's kicking C5 *** at the auto-X btw.
10-13-02, 08:21 PM
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I love the aluminum flywheel for street use. I have had the light steel one too but I love the aluminum one. I have one on my big single turbo 2nd gen and am going to put one on my GSL-SE. When my 2nd gen was still n/a the flywheel was one of the biggest improvements that I ever made. Toss up between that and the header. Everything else feels minimal compared to the gains of each.
10-14-02, 09:01 AM
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I am gonna disagree with Aaron as well, Mazda themselves used a 15% lighter flywheel on the series 5 cars over the series 4 cars. If there was no gain to be made they wouldn't have bothered.
I feel that since really torque is no differnet between the two series, that the perceived HP increase is more from the flywheel than anything else.
I feel that since really torque is no differnet between the two series, that the perceived HP increase is more from the flywheel than anything else.
10-14-02, 09:13 AM
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don't listen to them...the aluminum RB flywheel is completely fine for street use. I've had it in my car for the past 9 months w/ a centerforce dual friction clutch and the car gains a LOT of top end and makes it far easier to match revs...honestly you'll have to get used to matching revs for a few days since the car is much more sensitive and you'll end up over-revving. Starting from a dead stop takes a day or so of getting used to and honestly I don't even notice it anymore. The flywheel is easier on synchros and a GREAT mod for a street car, as someone else mentioned it is the best power-mod since my downpipe/cat replacement. Highly recommended...
10-14-02, 09:23 AM
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Here's the deal -
First off, yes, I have driven 2nd gens with both steel and aluminum flywheels - this ain't just hearsay
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The biggest problem with a light flywheel is it's $100 worth of cool that costs $400 and is a royal bitch to install. It's really not a cost effective mod. They're great, don't get me wrong, they're just not $400 great.
If you're going to get a flywheel, get an aluminum. Period. If you're spending that much money, get the most benefit. The steel flywheels are nice, but there's really not as big of a benefit as the aluminum, and if you're paying that kinda money, you want the best bang for the buck.
An aluminum flywheel is VERY streetable. I taught an old girlfriend of mine how to drive a stick on my 10th anniversary - aluminum flywheel, very stiff pressure plate, big turbo, street ported...as far as you can get from an "easy to drive" car. She was driving smoothly within about a half hour, and had no problems with it.
Mazda put a heavy flywheel on the car because it makes the car a lot easier to drive. An easy to drive car sells a LOT easier than a tricky car. If Joe Car Buyer goes up to a Mazda dealer to test-drive an RX-7 and stalls out the car every time he goes from a stop, he's not gonna like it. Remember, Mazda is in the business of selling cars - they want him to like it.
If you actually got on the Internet, found the RX-7 forum, registered, and are reading this, you're far past Joe Car Buyer. You're an enthusiast, and you're interested in getting the most from your car. You won't have ANY problem driving a car with an aluminum flywheel.
That's all ya need to know.
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First off, yes, I have driven 2nd gens with both steel and aluminum flywheels - this ain't just hearsay
.The biggest problem with a light flywheel is it's $100 worth of cool that costs $400 and is a royal bitch to install. It's really not a cost effective mod. They're great, don't get me wrong, they're just not $400 great.
If you're going to get a flywheel, get an aluminum. Period. If you're spending that much money, get the most benefit. The steel flywheels are nice, but there's really not as big of a benefit as the aluminum, and if you're paying that kinda money, you want the best bang for the buck.
An aluminum flywheel is VERY streetable. I taught an old girlfriend of mine how to drive a stick on my 10th anniversary - aluminum flywheel, very stiff pressure plate, big turbo, street ported...as far as you can get from an "easy to drive" car. She was driving smoothly within about a half hour, and had no problems with it.
Mazda put a heavy flywheel on the car because it makes the car a lot easier to drive. An easy to drive car sells a LOT easier than a tricky car. If Joe Car Buyer goes up to a Mazda dealer to test-drive an RX-7 and stalls out the car every time he goes from a stop, he's not gonna like it. Remember, Mazda is in the business of selling cars - they want him to like it.
If you actually got on the Internet, found the RX-7 forum, registered, and are reading this, you're far past Joe Car Buyer. You're an enthusiast, and you're interested in getting the most from your car. You won't have ANY problem driving a car with an aluminum flywheel.
That's all ya need to know
.Dale
10-14-02, 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
Keep your eyes open. I picked up the RB 9.5# for 275 shipped
Keep your eyes open. I picked up the RB 9.5# for 275 shipped
BTW, Jun has a chromoly flywheel that's pretty reasonably priced - barely under $400. The advantage is chromoly is as light as aluminum but harder than aluminum - kinda neat.
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10-14-02, 11:34 AM
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Hmmmmmmm
I can't help but notice that endorsers of the aluminum flywheel don't live in areas where stop and go driving is more common than not (ie Los Angeles, NY City (where thread starter lives)).
Make your own conclusion.
Make your own conclusion.
10-14-02, 11:45 AM
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where i live its deffinally stop and go, and factor in the fact that i work in manhatten..i might just go for a really good clutch and see how it is. lightend fly's are pricey as well.
10-14-02, 03:22 PM
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I can't help but notice that endorsers of the aluminum flywheel don't live in areas where stop and go driving is more common than not
10-14-02, 03:39 PM
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Yeah, I would second that - a heavy pressure plate is tougher in slow stop and go traffic than a light flywheel. That heavy pressure plate wears on the calf muscles after a while!
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10-14-02, 03:56 PM
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Re: Hmmmmmmm
Originally posted by HOZZMANRX7
I can't help but notice that endorsers of the aluminum flywheel don't live in areas where stop and go driving is more common than not (ie Los Angeles, NY City (where thread starter lives)).
I can't help but notice that endorsers of the aluminum flywheel don't live in areas where stop and go driving is more common than not (ie Los Angeles, NY City (where thread starter lives)).
If memory serves, your experience was with a 1st gen and the original post (Black NY FC?) drives a TII. Correct me if I'm wrong....
Ignore the "wive's tales" - go aluminum...
P.S. "assumption is the Mother of all fuc*ups".
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10-14-02, 11:59 PM
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Go for it...I love my RB light steel flywheel. I think it is actually easier to drive, and it definitely revs quicker. A little pricey, but if the clutch is already out, I'd definitely recommend it.