BlackR1

I remember there were several threads about this before the crash, so I thought I'd bring it up again.


What's your experience been like with premixing your gas with Marvel Mystery Oil? Is there any proven fact that it helps? How does it compare with other premixes such as Mobil 1 and Polaris 2 cycle engine oil?


I've been using MMO for several months now and notice that it helps the car run a lot smoother. Doesnt feel any faster, but just feels...clean. Im thinking of putting a little in the engine next time i change my oil, but not sure if it will hurt it.

technonovice

I use 4-8 ozs of Marvel Mystery Oil with every tankful. I have 100K original miles. Probably don't need it with a properly functioning OMP, but it doesn't hurt. Pettit uses a their own premix...I may have saved that post...I'll check.

technonovice

MSDS INFO

MARVEL OIL COMPANY INC -- MYSTERY OIL
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MSDS Safety Information
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FSC: 9150
MSDS Date: 02/16/1993
MSDS Num: BXKDX
LIIN: 00F003957
Product ID: MYSTERY OIL
MFN: 02
Responsible Party
Cage: DO882
Name: MARVEL OIL COMPANY INC
Address: 331 N MAIN ST
City: PORT CHESTER NY 10573-3305
Info Phone Number: 914-937-4000
Emergency Phone Number: 914-937-4000
Review Ind: Y
Published: Y
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Preparer Co. when other than Responsible Party Co.
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Cage: DO882
Assigned Ind: Y
Name: MARVEL OIL COMPANY
Address: 331 NORTH MAIN STREET
City: PORT CHESTER NY 10573
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Contractor Summary
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Cage: 95015
Name: MARVEL OIL CO INC
Address: 331 NORTH MAIN ST
City: PORT CHESTER NY 10573
Phone: 914-937-4000
Cage: DO882
Name: MARVEL OIL COMPANY
Address: 331 NORTH MAIN STREET
City: PORT CHESTER NY 10573
Phone: 914-937-4000
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Ingredients
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Cas: 64741-96-4
RTECS #: PY8040000
Name: MINERAL OIL, PETROLEUM DISTILLATES, SOLVENT-REFINED HEAVY NAPHTHENIC
DISTILLATE
% Wt: <75
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Cas: 64742-63-8
RTECS #: PY8038000
Name: MINERAL OIL, PETROLEUM DISTILLATES, SOLVENT-DEWAXED HEAVY NAPHTHENIC
% Wt: <75
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Cas: 8052-41-3
RTECS #: WJ8925000
Name: STODDARD SOLVENT (PETROLEUM DISTILLATE), MINERAL SPIRITS
% Wt: <30
Other REC Limits: 525 MG/***
OSHA PEL: 500 PPM
ACGIH TLV: 100 PPM
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Health Hazards Data
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LD50 LC50 Mixture: ORAL LD50 (RAT): 5 G/KG
Route Of Entry Inds - Inhalation: NO
Skin: NO
Ingestion: NO
Carcinogenicity Inds - NTP: NO
IARC: NO
OSHA: NO
Effects of Exposure: SKIN: PROLONGED/REPEATED CONTACT W/PRODUCT TENDS TO REMOVE
SKIN OILS, POSSIBLY LEADING TO IRRITATION & DERMATITIS. EYES: MAY CAUSE
IRRITATION. PRODUCT HAS A LOW ORDER OF ACUTE ORAL & DERMAL TOXICITY, BUT
MINUTE AMOUNTS ASPIRATED INTO THE LU NGS DURING INGESTION/VOMITING MAY CAUSE
MILD TO SEVERE PULMONARY INJURY.
Explanation Of Carcinogenicity: NONE
Signs And Symptions Of Overexposure: IRRITATION
First Aid: EYES: FLUSH W/CLEAR WATER FOR 15 MINS. SKIN: IF INJECTED
INTO/UNDER/ANY PART OF BODY, REGARDLESS OF APPEARANCE OF THE WOUND/SIZE,
PERSON SHOULD BE EVALUATED IMMEDIATELY BY PHYSICIAN AS A SURGICAL EMERGENCY.
EVEN THOUGH INITIAL SYMPTOMS FROM HIGH PRESSURE INJECTION MAY BE
MINIMAL/ABSENT, EARLY SURGICAL TREATMENT W/IN FIRST FEW HOURS MAY REDUCE THE
ULTIMATE EXTENT OF INJURY. (SEE SUPP)
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Handling and Disposal
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Spill Release Procedures: RECOVER FREE PRODUCT. ADD SAND/EARTH/OTHER SUITABLE
ABSORBENT TO AREA. MINIMIZE SKIN CONTACT. KEEP OUT OF SEWERS &
WATERCOURSES BY DIKING/IMPOUNDING.
Waste Disposal Methods: PREFERRED METHOD IS INCINERATION. DISPOSE OF
IAW/FEDERAL, STATE & LOCAL REGULATIONS.
Handling And Storage Precautions: KEEP CONTAINERS CLOSED WHEN NOT IN USE. DON'T
STORE NEAR HEAT, SPARKS, FLAME/STRONG OXIDANTS.
Other Precautions: AVOID PROLONGED/REPEATED CONTACT W/SKIN.
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Fire and Explosion Hazard Information
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Flash Point Text: 174F
Lower Limits: 0.9
Upper Limits: 7
Extinguishing Media: FOAM, DRY CHEMICAL, CO2
Fire Fighting Procedures: USE WATER TO COOL EXPOSED CONTAINERS. IF LEAK/SPILL
HASN'T IGNITED, USE WATER TO DISPERSE VAPORS & PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR MEN
ATTEMPTING TO STOP A LEAK.(SUPP)
Unusual Fire/Explosion Hazard: VAPORS ARE >THAN AIR & MAY TRAVEL ALONG
GROUND/BE MOVED BY VENTILATION & IGNITE BY HEAT/PILOT LIGHTS/OTHER
IGNITION SOURECES DISTANT FROM HANDLING POINT.
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Control Measures
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Respiratory Protection: USE SUPPLIED AIR RESPIRATORY PROTECTION IN
CONFINED/ENCLOSED SPACES, IF NEEDED.
Ventilation: LOCAL EXHAUST: TO CAPTURE VAPOR/MIST/FUMES IF NECESSARY.
MECHANICAL (GENERAL): ACCEPTABLE.
Protective Gloves: HYDROCARBON RESISTANT
Eye Protection: SPLASH GOGGLES
Other Protective Equipment: APRON, IMPERVIOUS CLOTHING IF NEEDED.
Supplemental Safety and Health: SPECIAL FIRE CONT'D: WATER SPRAY MAY BE USED TO
FLUSH SPILL AWAY FROM EXPOSURES. MINIMIZE BREATHING OF
GASES/VAPORS/FUMES/DECOMPOSTION PRODUCTS. HEALTH HAZARDS CONT'D: INHALATION:
REMOVE TO FRESH AIR. GIVE CPR/OXYGEN IF NEEDED. INGESTION: D ON'T INDUCE
VOMITING. OBTAIN MEDICAL ATTENTION IN ALL CASES.
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Physical/Chemical Properties
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B.P. Text: 341.6F
Vapor Pres: 5
Spec Gravity: 0.83
PH: 6.3
Solubility in Water: UNSOLUBLE
Appearance and Odor: REDDISH VISCOUS LIQUID W/HYDROCARBON ODOR.
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Reactivity Data
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Stability Indicator: YES
Stability Condition To Avoid: HEAT, SPARKS, FLAME
Materials To Avoid: STRONG OXIDANTS
Hazardous Decomposition Products: CO2, CO
Hazardous Polymerization Indicator: NO
Conditions To Avoid Polymerization: CONTACT W/SKIN.
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Toxicological Information
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Ecological Information
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MSDS Transport Information
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Regulatory Information
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Other Information
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HAZCOM Label
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Product ID: MYSTERY OIL
Cage: DO882
Assigned IND: Y
Company Name: MARVEL OIL COMPANY
Street: 331 NORTH MAIN STREET
City: PORT CHESTER NY
Zipcode: 10573
Health Emergency Phone: 914-937-4000
Label Required IND: Y
Date Of Label Review: 12/16/1998
Status Code: C
Label Date: 12/16/1998
Origination Code: G
Hazard And Precautions: SKIN: PROLONGED/REPEATED CONTACT W/PRODUCT TENDS TO
REMOVE SKIN OILS, POSSIBLY LEADING TO IRRITATION & DERMATITIS. EYES: MAY
CAUSE IRRITATION. PRODUCT HAS A LOW ORDER OF ACUTE ORAL & DERMAL
TOXICITY, BUT MINUTE AMOUNTS ASPIRATED INTO THE LU NGS DURING
INGESTION/VOMITING MAY CAUSE MILD TO SEVERE PULMONARY INJURY.
IRRITATION
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Disclaimer (provided with this information by the compiling agencies): This
information is formulated for use by elements of the Department of Defense.
The United States of America in no manner whatsoever expressly or implied
warrants, states, or intends said information to have any application, use or
viability by or to any person or persons outside the Department of Defense
nor any person or persons contracting with any instrumentality of the United
States of America and disclaims all liability for such use. Any person
utilizing this instruction who is not a military or civilian employee of the
United States of America should seek competent professional advice to verify
and assume responsibility for the suitability of this information to their
particular situation regardless of similarity to a corresponding Department
of Defense or other government situation.

technonovice

This is info from Pettit and their brand munufacturor:

Why do we recommend the use of Protek-R in every tank of fuel? The following is a reprint of
the label on the 4 oz bottle of Protek-R:
Pettit Racing
Protek-R
Synthetic Fuel Lubricant

Protek-R is specially designed for use in Rotary Engines. Protek-R is an advanced high performance synthetic lubricity system which contains precision engineered lubricating molecules that help protect Rotary Engines from the damaging effects of molecular shearing and metal to metal contact. Regular use of Protek-R's superior formula has the following advantages:

- Reduced wear on rotor housings and side housings
- Clean Burn Technology reduces carbon and residue build-up
- Ashless, No smoke formula provides cleaner exhaust than 2-stroke oil
- Anti-Oxidation protection against fuel system rust and corrosion
- Low flash point helps stop plug fouling

DIRECTIONS:
Add Protek-R to tank before adding fuel using the following formula:
STREET: Minimum of one 4-oz bottle per full 12 gallon tank
RACE: Mix at Ratio 100:1

NET 4 FL. OZ.

To order this product call
(954) 735-0100

Manufactured in USA exclusively for Excellent Performance Inc., Fort Lauderdale, FL 33311 by Klotz SFP Inc.

CleanBurn is a registered trademark of Klotz SFP Inc.

Protek-R is a registered trademark of Excellent Performance Inc

Copyright 1998 by Excellent Performance Inc
From Page 28 of Rotary Power, our 1st and 2nd Generation RX-7 Performance Parts Catalog:
Rotary Engine Tech Tip

The rotary's oil injection system operates like this: Oil is fed via the engine oiling system (crankcase) to a variable ratio metering pump. From there, it is routed to the engine where it trickles in, partially mixing with the onrushing air-fuel mixture. Fuel-to-oil ratios of 400:1 and higher are common. With over 20 years of rotary experience, we have seen the harsh effects of insufficient lubrication on the delicate internal components of rotary engines. To add to this condition, fuel is of the unleaded variety and designed to CLEAN. High combustion temperatures produced by rotary engines break down the oil film, then today's super fuels finish the job, leaving internal components, i.e. apex seals, side seals, corner seals, etc, void of lubrication. As a result, friction and wear increase, performance and efficiency decrease. Because of this, Protek-R was developed. By adding only 4 ounces to the average fill-up of 15 gallons of fuel, the fuel-to-oil ratio is improved by 100%, bringing the ratio to 200:1 or better. Protek-R can extend rotary engine life by 30% or more, depending on your driving habits and consistency of use.

- Extends engine life
- Reduces internal friction and wear
- Less drag and more power
- Full protection against rust and corrosion
- Blends completely with fuel
- Easier starting
- Carbon free
- 100% synthetic

Look for Protek-R under Lubricants

Mr. Mahtab

I use Pettits oil, but I thought I saw a post where it stated that his was actually Polaris synthetic 2-cycle oil repackaged. Can any one verify this?

technonovice

Here is a link to the old thread...it takes a little while to load.
http://7sins.rx7life.com/Premixthread.htm

BCNU

Dood! I told you guys not to let that out in public! Yes, it's Polaris jet ski oil, but don't tell anyone @ Pettit, esp. Cam or Jeff that I told you! They'll beat me!!! Don't believe me? The part # is on the package, call Klotz and ask them what it is... you'll be suprised!

Jason

( I was never here, and you never read this post...)

Mr. Mahtab

You were here, we did read the post, and you gave your name! Assuming Jason is your name. Besides, who cares. Do you think anyone at Pettit will ever take the time to look on this forum? I doubt it highly....they're too busy counting their money from all those overpriced mods.