GB Closed: Complete 99Spec Parts GB!
08-29-07, 09:09 PM
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Besides, you know us docs. We'll take your money any way we can, right? haha (I kiid I kiid)
Also I didnt realize that he filed a paypal complaint against you.
Every action has it's equal and opposite reaction. I just think he now needs to man up and deal w/ the consequences of his actions. Ppl CANNOT take Paypal complaints so lightly. They are SERIOUS. And apparently it wasn't bad enough he had to bash me on my thread; he had to go behind my back and file a complaint w/ Paypal too, without speaking w/ me first! Oooo...don't get me started man.
Last to rozado...dont go stealing my idea...if Ramy clears him to "sell his spot" I got dibs baby!!
His is plateLESS.
08-29-07, 09:21 PM
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No the inquiry was to BlueRex and he said NO MAS, NO MAS LOL
I know your gonna take my money anyway you damn MD's...I might as well get a bumper out of it (sort of like a reach around during those prision encounters but I digress).
Ramy = pissed off
LT1RX7 = pissed on by himself cause you know what mama told you about pissin in the wind right?
rozado = pissed on by himself
08-30-07, 03:22 AM
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Fdnewbie, you do horrible business. You act like he should have gotten ahold of you but every day I see posts about how you don't answer your emails and your pm box is full, yet I see you posting in meaningless threads on rx7club. Bluerex posts that he is going to let us know stuff on certain dates and then there is no follow up! To act like all this cyclone jack's stuff is coming out of no where is a joke, I saw him post one week ago that he would want a refund in a week if you didn't at least try to give him a date. One week later, what do you know, he tried to get a refund! Maybe you need MORE paypal complaints when there is 20,000 dollars up in the air.
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1) Emails are for individual orders. PMs to me (bluerex) are for private GB related questions.
2) As stated in the thread we don't offer refunds. We work in a prepay business where money is given upfront for parts in exchange for a discount.
3) If you had a problem ordering parts from a business run by 2 individuals, with all the problems that come from that business, you should have done your research before sending money. It is obvious by all the threads in this subforum how we operate.
That said we are always willing to work with customers. If you want to switch your order over to a plateless to cut down the wait time we can do that. If you want to discuss anything privately PM me. All I ask is that you show me the same respect I show you.
2) As stated in the thread we don't offer refunds. We work in a prepay business where money is given upfront for parts in exchange for a discount.
3) If you had a problem ordering parts from a business run by 2 individuals, with all the problems that come from that business, you should have done your research before sending money. It is obvious by all the threads in this subforum how we operate.
That said we are always willing to work with customers. If you want to switch your order over to a plateless to cut down the wait time we can do that. If you want to discuss anything privately PM me. All I ask is that you show me the same respect I show you.
1) My mistake, I wrongly assumed you would answer my posts as others’ concerns were addressed via posts.
2) I understand the “money upfront for parts”. My problem was have paid 4 months ago and not receiving any communication for the last month. Despite repeated posts expressing my concern.
3) I am aware of issues that come up when dealing with other businesses and the time involved in GBs. You however, were less than routine in your follow ups for “info tomorrow” and “as soon as we hear something”. It is NOT obvious that you fail to contact customers who have already paid, you do seem to answer other peoples questions frequently. All this could have been avoided with a simple email, PM or post answering my questions or simply saying “PM me you putz.”
Sir, up until this point neither yourself nor Ramy has bothered to say much at all to me let alone answer my questions or discuss a resolution. I will happily answer any and all communications to get this straightened out.
Jay
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Ramy, your responses…
Jason, you beat me to it.
Jak, your shooting yourself in the foot. It's real simple. NO ONE carries $20,000 worth of 99spec parts in inventory. NO ONE. Not even Mazda, as this GB has shown.
I didn’t expect you to stock 20k in parts, I did expect you to have a vendor who would hold 20k worth of parts for someone who they do a lot of business with. I mistakenly thought you were getting these new Mazda parts from Mazda, not an outside source.
When we run a GB, we gather interest. Based on that interest we make inquiry into the inventory. I ALWAYS make sure to do this. But I don't purchase the parts up front prior to having received payment from customers, as some customers have a tendency to flake on businesses in that matter. So no $$ = no parts ordered. But again, I make SURE the supplier is aware of the amount of orders I'm expecting. Naturally, they ALWAYS say they have stuff in stock, because they don't want you going elsewhere, or they aren't really aware of what's in stock, or hey, it could be an honest mistake. But the bottom line is, in the end, when I make the supplier aware, I'm going based on what they've told me. And I can't control that at ALL.
Sounds like you need another supplier if you GB’s usually run 2-3 months and this ones going on 4.
So when I first took the orders, I was promised the parts were in stock. How it all disappeared literally overnight, I don't know. That was a shocker to me. But it was out of my hands. So I was promised stock in mid to late July, which I passed on to you. They were behind schedule. Again, out of my hands. The stock just arrived THIS WEEK, and parts finally got shipped out to customers TODAY. That's THEM being behind schedule, NOT me. There's nothing I can do to change that fact. And I didn't promise anyone delivery by any specific time; I was merely passing on the update I received from Mazda. That's all.
So all of the parts that were ordered shipped out TODAY? If not they which parts and when will those who are getting parts receive the shipping info? Yes, I know you didn’t promise a specific shipping date. Several posts from both you and Jason promised info soon and just kind of trailed off…
And OF COURSE I'll fill the orders in the order received. It's only fair. If someone takes their time jumping onto the GB, yet wants their order filled first...that doesn't make sense! If you're on a time schedule, you need to join early and/or plan accordingly! Now you make a good point. Some may feel the savings are no longer worth the wait. And hey, that's completely subjective, and if you feel that, then you're right to feel that in your own right. So here's my simple suggestion to you. If you are on ANY time schedule, plan accordingly. And as such, don't join a group buy! Group buys BY THEIR VERY NATURE are known to essentially demand of a supplier more than their stock can supply. No one carries an inventory large enough to cover the GBs I've run. NO ONE to date. Not a SINGLE time. So do your homework and understand that delays are INEVITABLE. If at that point - PRIOR to joining the GB, you feel time is more important than savings, your choice is simple: purchase the part individually, separate from the GB. I have ppl who do that ALL the time. Ppl tell me they don't want to wait for the GB, need the part by X date, I tell 'em if I can do it (99% of the time which I can), and we make it happen. Because getting ONE bumper to YOU on time is MUCH easier than getting 20 bumpers to 20 different people on time. C'mon now, it ain't rocket science...
I paid for my stuff on 4/28, and didn’t ask about it till 8/04. At which time I explained my situation, TIME FRAME, and said I would be perfectly happy with a plateless cover and asked for one of you guys to let me know. And by the previous posts you only ordered 9 bumper covers (two of those were for me), not saying you haven’t taken more orders or I didn’t miscount, just my observation
As for your unanswered questions, lemme put it like this. I can read. I'm assuming you can too. Then follow directions. https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php?...3=&postcount=66. RE-read what you should have read before. I do not, will not, and can not take responsibility for your inability to follow directions. If you submit your individual issues/concerns/etc using the wrong venue, that's YOUR mistake, NOT mine. The GB threads (as you can find plastered ALL over our vendor section) is for GB inquiries ONLY, and individual question are to be directed to the appropriate person - in this case Jason - OFF the thread.
I did read and the directions. Reread them too, still didn’t find anything about who to address concerns too. PM Jason about the group buy was all I got. Since I was already paid up and in the GB I mistakenly thought my posts would be answered like everyone else’s’. If you bother to look back you’ll see a few place were other peoples posts were answered directly below mine. I mistakenly thought that since I was in on the GB the GB thread was the place to ask my questions. Maybe I would’ve gotten the clue and stopped writing there if one of you two had bothered to mention it to me, huh?
Moreover, had you read the above post, you would have realized that GBs have a no-refund policy, because once you hand me the money, I hand it over to the supplier. It's at that point out of my hands.
Its not like I didn’t try to get some answers from you guys. I gave you a month to get back to me. Also your not out anything by refunding my money as you said you bought up “extra” stock.
As for your little Paypal fiasco, now I'm even MORE adamant about NOT refunding you, REGARDLESS of the circumstance. Normally I'm a VERY laid back, relaxed individual. But if you wanna play hardball, so can I. Paypal Resolution Center isn't a joke you can play with as you please. It carries with it VERY serious business implications. But more importantly, YOU entered into the GB of your own free will, YOU are held responsible for the disclaimer we place in the beginning of the GB, and as such YOU need to be held accountable for YOUR actions. Had your little Paypal stunt resulted in freezing of our funds, you would have had a LOT of forum members looking for YOU (not me), because your impatience, lack of responsibility, and inability to follow directions could very well have resulted in the money (and as such orders) of a LOT of ppl being suspended, hung in the air.
Fiasco? Dude you’ve had my cash for over FOUR MONTHS and haven’t responded to my (growing by the post) concerns for over a month! I read your “no refunds” policy. (Now I’m NOT calling you a conman.) That being said, every rip off artist in the world refuses to “give refunds”. What would you do in my shoes? I filed a fair grievance. You haven’t delivered the product. Need I remind you I gave you 12 days notice of my wanting a refund, I think you could banged about a little note to me or a post or something in that week. You seem to have loads of time to write about now… Also I would appreciate canning the threats. You could have contacted me at any time if this was such a deal breaking issue. I’m not the only one concerned about their parts.
It's situations like these that are the VERY reason why when I speak w/ other RX7Club Forum Vendors (and ONLY vendors on THIS club) that they tell me they've canceled their Paypal accounts LONG ago...b/c it's simply not worth it...
~Ramy
Look, listen, feel, whatever. I’m not taking this personal. I just want my parts so I can get my car put together. If they shipped out today awesome. Next week, I can keep waiting. If there not coming for another two months and you or Jason or whomever can get me a plateless cover by mid September then lets set it up. If you guys can’t get me in a cover before then lets work out selling my spot or getting me out of this deal and I ‘ll call it a lesson learned. I’ll call off the Paypal grievance as soon as we get this ironed out. I wish it hadn’t played out like this… what would you have done?
Jay
Jason, you beat me to it.
Jak, your shooting yourself in the foot. It's real simple. NO ONE carries $20,000 worth of 99spec parts in inventory. NO ONE. Not even Mazda, as this GB has shown.
I didn’t expect you to stock 20k in parts, I did expect you to have a vendor who would hold 20k worth of parts for someone who they do a lot of business with. I mistakenly thought you were getting these new Mazda parts from Mazda, not an outside source.
When we run a GB, we gather interest. Based on that interest we make inquiry into the inventory. I ALWAYS make sure to do this. But I don't purchase the parts up front prior to having received payment from customers, as some customers have a tendency to flake on businesses in that matter. So no $$ = no parts ordered. But again, I make SURE the supplier is aware of the amount of orders I'm expecting. Naturally, they ALWAYS say they have stuff in stock, because they don't want you going elsewhere, or they aren't really aware of what's in stock, or hey, it could be an honest mistake. But the bottom line is, in the end, when I make the supplier aware, I'm going based on what they've told me. And I can't control that at ALL.
Sounds like you need another supplier if you GB’s usually run 2-3 months and this ones going on 4.
So when I first took the orders, I was promised the parts were in stock. How it all disappeared literally overnight, I don't know. That was a shocker to me. But it was out of my hands. So I was promised stock in mid to late July, which I passed on to you. They were behind schedule. Again, out of my hands. The stock just arrived THIS WEEK, and parts finally got shipped out to customers TODAY. That's THEM being behind schedule, NOT me. There's nothing I can do to change that fact. And I didn't promise anyone delivery by any specific time; I was merely passing on the update I received from Mazda. That's all.
So all of the parts that were ordered shipped out TODAY? If not they which parts and when will those who are getting parts receive the shipping info? Yes, I know you didn’t promise a specific shipping date. Several posts from both you and Jason promised info soon and just kind of trailed off…
And OF COURSE I'll fill the orders in the order received. It's only fair. If someone takes their time jumping onto the GB, yet wants their order filled first...that doesn't make sense! If you're on a time schedule, you need to join early and/or plan accordingly! Now you make a good point. Some may feel the savings are no longer worth the wait. And hey, that's completely subjective, and if you feel that, then you're right to feel that in your own right. So here's my simple suggestion to you. If you are on ANY time schedule, plan accordingly. And as such, don't join a group buy! Group buys BY THEIR VERY NATURE are known to essentially demand of a supplier more than their stock can supply. No one carries an inventory large enough to cover the GBs I've run. NO ONE to date. Not a SINGLE time. So do your homework and understand that delays are INEVITABLE. If at that point - PRIOR to joining the GB, you feel time is more important than savings, your choice is simple: purchase the part individually, separate from the GB. I have ppl who do that ALL the time. Ppl tell me they don't want to wait for the GB, need the part by X date, I tell 'em if I can do it (99% of the time which I can), and we make it happen. Because getting ONE bumper to YOU on time is MUCH easier than getting 20 bumpers to 20 different people on time. C'mon now, it ain't rocket science...
I paid for my stuff on 4/28, and didn’t ask about it till 8/04. At which time I explained my situation, TIME FRAME, and said I would be perfectly happy with a plateless cover and asked for one of you guys to let me know. And by the previous posts you only ordered 9 bumper covers (two of those were for me), not saying you haven’t taken more orders or I didn’t miscount, just my observation
As for your unanswered questions, lemme put it like this. I can read. I'm assuming you can too. Then follow directions. https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php?...3=&postcount=66. RE-read what you should have read before. I do not, will not, and can not take responsibility for your inability to follow directions. If you submit your individual issues/concerns/etc using the wrong venue, that's YOUR mistake, NOT mine. The GB threads (as you can find plastered ALL over our vendor section) is for GB inquiries ONLY, and individual question are to be directed to the appropriate person - in this case Jason - OFF the thread.
I did read and the directions. Reread them too, still didn’t find anything about who to address concerns too. PM Jason about the group buy was all I got. Since I was already paid up and in the GB I mistakenly thought my posts would be answered like everyone else’s’. If you bother to look back you’ll see a few place were other peoples posts were answered directly below mine. I mistakenly thought that since I was in on the GB the GB thread was the place to ask my questions. Maybe I would’ve gotten the clue and stopped writing there if one of you two had bothered to mention it to me, huh?
Moreover, had you read the above post, you would have realized that GBs have a no-refund policy, because once you hand me the money, I hand it over to the supplier. It's at that point out of my hands.
Its not like I didn’t try to get some answers from you guys. I gave you a month to get back to me. Also your not out anything by refunding my money as you said you bought up “extra” stock.
As for your little Paypal fiasco, now I'm even MORE adamant about NOT refunding you, REGARDLESS of the circumstance. Normally I'm a VERY laid back, relaxed individual. But if you wanna play hardball, so can I. Paypal Resolution Center isn't a joke you can play with as you please. It carries with it VERY serious business implications. But more importantly, YOU entered into the GB of your own free will, YOU are held responsible for the disclaimer we place in the beginning of the GB, and as such YOU need to be held accountable for YOUR actions. Had your little Paypal stunt resulted in freezing of our funds, you would have had a LOT of forum members looking for YOU (not me), because your impatience, lack of responsibility, and inability to follow directions could very well have resulted in the money (and as such orders) of a LOT of ppl being suspended, hung in the air.
Fiasco? Dude you’ve had my cash for over FOUR MONTHS and haven’t responded to my (growing by the post) concerns for over a month! I read your “no refunds” policy. (Now I’m NOT calling you a conman.) That being said, every rip off artist in the world refuses to “give refunds”. What would you do in my shoes? I filed a fair grievance. You haven’t delivered the product. Need I remind you I gave you 12 days notice of my wanting a refund, I think you could banged about a little note to me or a post or something in that week. You seem to have loads of time to write about now… Also I would appreciate canning the threats. You could have contacted me at any time if this was such a deal breaking issue. I’m not the only one concerned about their parts.
It's situations like these that are the VERY reason why when I speak w/ other RX7Club Forum Vendors (and ONLY vendors on THIS club) that they tell me they've canceled their Paypal accounts LONG ago...b/c it's simply not worth it...
~Ramy
Look, listen, feel, whatever. I’m not taking this personal. I just want my parts so I can get my car put together. If they shipped out today awesome. Next week, I can keep waiting. If there not coming for another two months and you or Jason or whomever can get me a plateless cover by mid September then lets set it up. If you guys can’t get me in a cover before then lets work out selling my spot or getting me out of this deal and I ‘ll call it a lesson learned. I’ll call off the Paypal grievance as soon as we get this ironed out. I wish it hadn’t played out like this… what would you have done?
Jay
08-30-07, 03:19 PM
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I havent read thru all the posts about this GB, but I can add that everyone gets their 99 spec stuff from the same place so its not just Ramy thats been waiting. Plus on top of that, Mazda only gets in a certain amount which is not enough to fill the orders.
Jason
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08-30-07, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FDNewbie
NO ONE. Not even Mazda, as this GB has shown.
Sounds like you need another supplier if you GB’s usually run 2-3 months and this ones going on 4.
So all of the parts that were ordered shipped out TODAY? If not they which parts and when will those who are getting parts receive the shipping info?
Yes, I know you didn’t promise a specific shipping date. Several posts from both you and Jason promised info soon and just kind of trailed off…
I paid for my stuff on 4/28, and didn’t ask about it till 8/04. At which time I explained my situation, TIME FRAME, and said I would be perfectly happy with a plateless cover and asked for one of you guys to let me know.
And by the previous posts you only ordered 9 bumper covers (two of those were for me), not saying you haven’t taken more orders or I didn’t miscount, just my observation
I did read and the directions. Reread them too
still didn’t find anything about who to address concerns too. PM Jason about the group buy was all I got.
Since I was already paid up and in the GB I mistakenly thought my posts would be answered like everyone else’s’.
If you bother to look back you’ll see a few place were other peoples posts were answered directly below mine. I mistakenly thought that since I was in on the GB the GB thread was the place to ask my questions. Maybe I would’ve gotten the clue and stopped writing there if one of you two had bothered to mention it to me, huh?
1) https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=124. Jason's reply is right below your post.
2) https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=207. My reply is right below your post.
3) https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=217. Jason's reply is right below your post.
4) https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=219. Jason's reply is two posts after yours.
5) https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=239. Jason's reply is one post after yours.
6) In THIS current post of yours https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=257 my reply will be one post after yours.
So, lets go over that one again. Where did we skip your posts and not reply, yet reply to others' posts??
Its not like I didn’t try to get some answers from you guys. I gave you a month to get back to me.
Also your not out anything by refunding my money as you said you bought up “extra” stock.
Fiasco? Dude you’ve had my cash for over FOUR MONTHS and haven’t responded to my (growing by the post) concerns for over a month!
I read your “no refunds” policy. (Now I’m NOT calling you a conman.) That being said, every rip off artist in the world refuses to “give refunds”.
Also, I think you're smart enough to see how I conduct business on the forum to know that I'm not a rip-off artist. I'm simply covering my bases. You know how many times I got stiffed after purchasing a part for someone and all of a sudden they had a "change of heart" or ran into "financial difficulty" before they got a chance to pay me? So I'm playing it smart, that's all. Plain and simple.
Oh and I'd appreciate it if you don't associate my practices - directly or indirectly - with cons and rip-off artists. I do my absolute best to maintain a business w/ the highest level of honesty, ethics, and values. Long wait times? Sure. Dishonesty? ABSOLUTELY NOT. So that association perturbs me greatly.
What would you do in my shoes?
Group Buy: Carbon Fiber Hatches
URL: https://www.rx7club.com/group-buy-center-69/carbon-fiber-hatch-gb-474159/
Thread start date: 10-19-05, 05:24 PM
Deposit paid: 11-03-05, 03:39 PM
Last post from organizer (in the thread): 12-12-06, 01:09 AM
Hatch Status: Never received.
Time Elapsed: 403 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes. In other words, 1 year, 1 month, 8 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes.
Paypal Dispute filed: Aug. 22, 2006
You do the math
(I think the point is, I'd wait a bit longer )
I filed a fair grievance. You haven’t delivered the product.
Need I remind you I gave you 12 days notice of my wanting a refund, I think you could banged about a little note to me or a post or something in that week.
You seem to have loads of time to write about now…
Oh and if I was shady/dishonest/insert-your-adjective-of-choice-here, I would have simply deleted your posts and called it a day (remember, this is my subforum, so I have admin rights here). But that's not my style. I feel a responsibility toward you and each and every one of my customers, including bringing ANY and EVERY issue raised to light.
Also I would appreciate canning the threats.
You could have contacted me at any time if this was such a deal breaking issue. I’m not the only one concerned about their parts.
As for others, listen man, lets not play like I'm sitting here gettin high and rich off of your order, takin vacation trips to Hawaii. In fact, guess what? By the time Mazda finally came through, my cost on the parts went UP, and I had to swallow that, simply b/c I promised my customers something, and I'm gonna hold myself to that promise. So you see, I'm just as concerned about your parts as you are - if not MORE. Why? Because when situations like this (Mazda flaking) arise, it makes ME look bad, even though it's not MY fault. Who's got more to lose here...you or me? Then tell me who's concerned more about the parts...
Look, listen, feel, whatever. I’m not taking this personal.
I just want my parts so I can get my car put together. If they shipped out today awesome. Next week, I can keep waiting.
If there not coming for another two months
and you or Jason or whomever can get me a plateless cover by mid September then lets set it up.
If you guys can’t get me in a cover before then lets work out selling my spot or getting me out of this deal and I ‘ll call it a lesson learned.
I’ll call off the Paypal grievance as soon as we get this ironed out.
I wish it hadn’t played out like this… what would you have done?
Jay
Jay
~Ramy
Last edited by FDNewbie; 08-31-07 at 12:47 AM.
08-30-07, 03:40 PM
#262
Thanks for the post. Rich (GoodFellaFD3S) already posted that he's contacted NUMEROUS vendors, and they're all having issues producing the parts, because there's only one Mazda, so EVERYONE goes to them for the parts. But some ppl still won't take that for what it is...
~Ramy
08-30-07, 04:19 PM
#264
So yes, a still current, open, or pending dispute or claim can be canceled at any time by the filer. Yet once it's closed, I'm not so sure... We shall see if Jay decides to go that route and contacts Paypal.
~Ramy
08-30-07, 11:56 PM
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GREAT READ! i have a life for 2 days and this is what i miss! wow ramy... it took me 6 page-downs to get to the end of that response post. if i knew how to do the applause icon id put it here ->
back on topic... yes ramy's business can be frustrating at times to deal with: orders (and responses to them) take extended amounts of time, suppliers screw up, shipping companies screw up, and last but not least he doesnt speak japanese..... but the common thread in all his groupbuys and other transactions is that he ALWAYS... ALWAYS comes through in the end. if you have a special time frame to work within you need to state that before buying something thats not IN HAND, IN INVENTORY. any number of problems, all the way back to the parts supplier forward can cause delays. sometimes significant ones. if youre on a particular timeframe you need to state that before sending off your money. its parts of being and informed consumer. dont just assume the parts will be in by such and such date... what ramy gave us was his best guesstimate of when the parts will make their way to us.
my project car has been apart for 2 years and will be for another 5... so to me it doesnt really bother me if there are delays (ramy please dont take this as an invitation to sit on my "special" parts request ) but honestly if my car was going into the shop on a particular date for paint or any other reason that may require meeting a schedule id state that so we all know and can help you decide if the GB was right for you. if he was sitting on our 20 Grand in the Bahamas it would be another story, but before taking every possible route to contact him (including simply posting in this thread) dont file a paypal complaint against him... you gotta give him a shot dude. i did, he came through in the end, and thats why i continue to order my parts through him (not to mention its slim pickin's trying find someone to even source this stuff).
i hope this all gets sorted out. -heath
back on topic... yes ramy's business can be frustrating at times to deal with: orders (and responses to them) take extended amounts of time, suppliers screw up, shipping companies screw up, and last but not least he doesnt speak japanese..... but the common thread in all his groupbuys and other transactions is that he ALWAYS... ALWAYS comes through in the end. if you have a special time frame to work within you need to state that before buying something thats not IN HAND, IN INVENTORY. any number of problems, all the way back to the parts supplier forward can cause delays. sometimes significant ones. if youre on a particular timeframe you need to state that before sending off your money. its parts of being and informed consumer. dont just assume the parts will be in by such and such date... what ramy gave us was his best guesstimate of when the parts will make their way to us.
my project car has been apart for 2 years and will be for another 5... so to me it doesnt really bother me if there are delays (ramy please dont take this as an invitation to sit on my "special" parts request
) but honestly if my car was going into the shop on a particular date for paint or any other reason that may require meeting a schedule id state that so we all know and can help you decide if the GB was right for you. if he was sitting on our 20 Grand in the Bahamas it would be another story, but before taking every possible route to contact him (including simply posting in this thread) dont file a paypal complaint against him... you gotta give him a shot dude. i did, he came through in the end, and thats why i continue to order my parts through him (not to mention its slim pickin's trying find someone to even source this stuff). i hope this all gets sorted out. -heath
08-31-07, 12:23 AM
#266
...and last but not least he doesnt speak japanese.....
(ramy please dont take this as an invitation to sit on my "special" parts request )
)
Ppl like you make it a pleasure to deal with, so the LEAST I can do is make sure I take care of ya well On that note, I'm about to send in your list as is (with the partial part #s), only I'm afraid of the bitchslappin I'm gonna get when they realize how long it is and how much work they're gonna hafta to do track it all down LOL. Man oh man...
but honestly if my car was going into the shop on a particular date for paint or any other reason that may require meeting a schedule id state that so we all know and can help you decide if the GB was right for you.
thats why i continue to order my parts through him (not to mention its slim pickin's trying find someone to even source this stuff).
~Ramy
08-31-07, 02:33 AM
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I obviously made a mistake cutting and pasting so I'll keep this one short.
1) I still have yet to be contacted by either Jason or Ramy via PM or email. I guess the posts will have to do.
2) I have stated repeatedly, I tried to get one of you guys to give me a direct response for over a MONTH. Ramy kindly pointed out that there were multiple posts made following mine... none REPLYING TO ME, all failing to address my questions about the possiblitiy of swithing to a plateless bumper OR the proper way to get in contact with either of them.
3) I still don't understand Mazda being "out" of covers. Are they not the manufacturer? Where are they coming from? What if they have run out of old stock and we're still short? I guess they don't fill orders by manufacturing new ones. Figure someone ordering 20+ units ( and all the other businesses trying to get them) must not be a great enough demand to justify squeezing some out, especially since they're all paid for.
4) Did you paypal Mazda the money? How can that affect the status of the order if Mazda is paid in full. I assume you could cut me a check or paypal me back the money... not that you'd consider something like that.
5) You still haven't said why you hadn't bothered to contact me before my claim was filed. Please don't give me the proper channels speach... I tried for a month and surely you read my posts... It seems you just didn't care till I did something about it.
Oh and the reason I haven't called it that Im still in the middle of the north pacific, on a ship, where I've been for the last 7 months. I mistakenly thought the posts were enough...
Sorry you feel like I threw punches at you, I didn't think any of my emails were overly aggresive. I apploigize for the slights. I was waiting for an entire week+ for ANY reply. If you had sent a single message to me all this could have been avoided. I just want to know why you didn't.
1) I still have yet to be contacted by either Jason or Ramy via PM or email. I guess the posts will have to do.
2) I have stated repeatedly, I tried to get one of you guys to give me a direct response for over a MONTH. Ramy kindly pointed out that there were multiple posts made following mine... none REPLYING TO ME, all failing to address my questions about the possiblitiy of swithing to a plateless bumper OR the proper way to get in contact with either of them.
3) I still don't understand Mazda being "out" of covers. Are they not the manufacturer? Where are they coming from? What if they have run out of old stock and we're still short? I guess they don't fill orders by manufacturing new ones. Figure someone ordering 20+ units ( and all the other businesses trying to get them) must not be a great enough demand to justify squeezing some out, especially since they're all paid for.
4) Did you paypal Mazda the money? How can that affect the status of the order if Mazda is paid in full. I assume you could cut me a check or paypal me back the money... not that you'd consider something like that.
5) You still haven't said why you hadn't bothered to contact me before my claim was filed. Please don't give me the proper channels speach... I tried for a month and surely you read my posts... It seems you just didn't care till I did something about it.
Oh and the reason I haven't called it that Im still in the middle of the north pacific, on a ship, where I've been for the last 7 months. I mistakenly thought the posts were enough...
Sorry you feel like I threw punches at you, I didn't think any of my emails were overly aggresive. I apploigize for the slights. I was waiting for an entire week+ for ANY reply. If you had sent a single message to me all this could have been avoided. I just want to know why you didn't.
08-31-07, 02:42 AM
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Watching you keep blasting on Ramy & co is just disgusting. Get over yourself, you should have thought twice before buying in.
Oh and if you haven't noticed...If you don't get an OEM 99spec bumper from Ramy, you're going to be waiting a lot longer to get it anywhere else.
08-31-07, 03:12 AM
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If you don't think you should post its your prerogative. Obviously you’re a torn individual since you did anyhow I was trying to get info fro the guys, they didn't respond. I filed with Paypal and it was automatically escalated it to a claim and closed due to the extended period of time that passed. I’m not trying to bully anyone, read my posts staring on page 9. I just wanted my questions answered.
Jay
I was trying to get info fro the guys, they didn't respond. I filed with Paypal and it was automatically escalated it to a claim and closed due to the extended period of time that passed. I’m not trying to bully anyone, read my posts staring on page 9. I just wanted my questions answered.Jay
08-31-07, 03:22 AM
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1) I still have yet to be contacted by either Jason or Ramy via PM or email. I guess the posts will have to do.
2) I have stated repeatedly, I tried to get one of you guys to give me a direct response for over a MONTH. Ramy kindly pointed out that there were multiple posts made following mine... none REPLYING TO ME, all failing to address my questions about the possiblitiy of swithing to a plateless bumper OR the proper way to get in contact with either of them.
In those posts, mind you, you were pushing to get us to give you an exact date of delivery. You were saying if I don't receive by such and such date I want this or that etc. A) You should be aware of the "no refund" policy (which you have claimed to have read), and B) no amount of pressure in the WORLD will force me to lie. I CANNOT give you an ETA that I DO NOT HAVE. And I REFUSE to make one up either. And we (both Jason and I) REPEATEDLY stated we didn't have an exact date, and explained the situation. So the ONLY thing we didn't reply to was your demand for a date. And that's because we couldn't give you that which we didn't have.
Now if you felt the rest of the answers to your questions that we provided weren't the answers you're looking for, you should have contacted us for a clarification, which YOU have yet to do. You've basically given yourself a month to wait for misplacing your request. Not my responsibility. I CANNOT tell you how many times I have told ppl I do NOT address individual situations on threads. This case is no different. Follow directions please.
3) I still don't understand Mazda being "out" of covers. Are they not the manufacturer? Where are they coming from? What if they have run out of old stock and we're still short?
I guess they don't fill orders by manufacturing new ones.
Figure someone ordering 20+ units ( and all the other businesses trying to get them) must not be a great enough demand to justify squeezing some out, especially since they're all paid for.
You know what? Forget it. It's obvious you have NO IDEA how such businesses are run, so I'll spare you the details. The crazy part is you've had GoodFellaFD3S (a long-time upstanding forum member) already tell you the bumpers are nowhere to be found, and Jason of RX7Store (who's another vendor!) come and post that Mazda's out. What more do you want??
4) Did you paypal Mazda the money? How can that affect the status of the order if Mazda is paid in full.
I assume you could cut me a check or paypal me back the money... not that you'd consider something like that.
5) You still haven't said why you hadn't bothered to contact me before my claim was filed. Please don't give me the proper channels speach... I tried for a month and surely you read my posts... It seems you just didn't care till I did something about it.
See, normally I'd have no problem taking the initiative and meeting ya halfway, or even doing some of your job for ya. But when you're being stubborn/combative/insert-your-adjective-here, I'm not so inclined to do so.
Oh and the reason I haven't called it that Im still in the middle of the north pacific, on a ship, where I've been for the last 7 months. I mistakenly thought the posts were enough...
Sorry you feel like I threw punches at you
I didn't think any of my emails were overly aggresive.
I apploigize for the slights. I was waiting for an entire week+ for ANY reply. If you had sent a single message to me all this could have been avoided. I just want to know why you didn't.
) I will continue to have rules to set things up in the way I see best, and will continue to ask you to follow them. So, for the LAST time, how long you waited when directing your inquiry to the WRONG VENUE is IRRELEVANT. Correct your mistake, and direct your inquiry to the correct venue, and I promise you you'll get MUCH better results, and with a fast turnaround too ~Ramy
PS: At this point, I don't think there's anything left to be said that hasn't been said already, and I won't be repeating my points about following directions. You should be crystal clear about what to do and how to do it. I will NOT be answering the same points for the 3rd time, so don't bother posting them. I am, however, looking forward to you taking the correct and appropriate steps to fixing this situation, and sending whatever issues/concerns you may have to the correct individual so we can get this taken care of quickly.
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08-31-07, 03:35 AM
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Ok, you got it. I'll contact Jason. Its apparent your rules are too inflexible to break in the name of customer service. It would have taken one post to tell me this. instead fo two pages of verbal jousting. I'll call Paypal when we get back to the states.
Jay
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08-31-07, 03:40 AM
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Jay, it's breaking those rules that LEADS TO poor customer service (and all other sorts of problems). And I thought it was PAINFULLY obvious that I wasn't going to be breaking my rules. That would make me a hypocrite, wouldn't it? Rules are important. Rules are our friends... 
Thanks,
~Ramy
Rules are important. Rules are our friends... Thanks,
~Ramy
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Thanks guys... i feel your pain and i'm gonna make an attempt to fix this for everyone. I just won the Ohio lottery and will pay for everyone's full order prior to mine.
how about that... does that work for everyone... or should i PM you every other day at 2:13pm to remind you i'm still gonna do it!
FDNEWBIE WILL DELIVER!!!!
cheer up fellas... life must be good... you are buying $1,000 - 2,000 car parts for your play toys.
oh yeah, almost forgot... i was just kidding about that PAYING FOR YOUR ORDER and the WINNING THE LOTTERY thing.
-Will
how about that... does that work for everyone... or should i PM you every other day at 2:13pm to remind you i'm still gonna do it!
FDNEWBIE WILL DELIVER!!!!
cheer up fellas... life must be good... you are buying $1,000 - 2,000 car parts for your play toys.
oh yeah, almost forgot... i was just kidding about that PAYING FOR YOUR ORDER and the WINNING THE LOTTERY thing.
-Will