GB Closed: Complete 99Spec Parts GB!
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From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
If it makes you guys feel any better, I've been searching around b/c a customer of mine needs a 99 spec bumper, and they're nowhere to be found at any kind of wholesale pricing. Everyone who has them is charging full retail b/c they're becoming scarce.........
Rich, c'mon now. I'm sure you know that ppl don't care about that. They want everything for dirt cheap, yesterday, w/ free shipping lol.
Oh and apologize to your customer for me, cuz I just cleaned out Mazda, AND put in a few more orders, so I own some of the backorder stock too
~Ramy
Oh and apologize to your customer for me, cuz I just cleaned out Mazda, AND put in a few more orders, so I own some of the backorder stock too
~Ramy
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Here's some progress...
toyzzzz
jlblue
caredden
RotorMotor
Your orders are filled except for the brake/oil cooler ducts for the 3 of you that ordered them (didn't want to hold up the rest of the stuff for small items). They will be shipped when stock is replenished. When we are supplied tracking info we will pass it on.
The rest of your orders will be filled as stock comes in. If we receive ETAs we will post them.
Thanks for your patience.
toyzzzz
jlblue
caredden
RotorMotor
Your orders are filled except for the brake/oil cooler ducts for the 3 of you that ordered them (didn't want to hold up the rest of the stuff for small items). They will be shipped when stock is replenished. When we are supplied tracking info we will pass it on.
The rest of your orders will be filled as stock comes in. If we receive ETAs we will post them.
Thanks for your patience.
Here's some progress...
toyzzzz
jlblue
caredden
RotorMotor
Your orders are filled except for the brake/oil cooler ducts for the 3 of you that ordered them (didn't want to hold up the rest of the stuff for small items). They will be shipped when stock is replenished. When we are supplied tracking info we will pass it on.
The rest of your orders will be filled as stock comes in. If we receive ETAs we will post them.
Thanks for your patience.
toyzzzz
jlblue
caredden
RotorMotor
Your orders are filled except for the brake/oil cooler ducts for the 3 of you that ordered them (didn't want to hold up the rest of the stuff for small items). They will be shipped when stock is replenished. When we are supplied tracking info we will pass it on.
The rest of your orders will be filled as stock comes in. If we receive ETAs we will post them.
Thanks for your patience.
-heath
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You know its kind of disappointing I seem to keep having these onesided emails. I haven't had any of my questions answered. I did get a mention of an "outside life" and "everything we said was the truth". I haven't heard comment one about the chance of getting a cover OEM, plateless or any other kind. I have been asking since my second post on this thread two months ago about my need to have one secured by September. The only thing I care about is getting my car ready to drive. I asked multiple times for shipping information on my purchase. I understand that you said your supplier is out of the bumper covers themselves, this you informed all of the individuals involved in the group buy after we had paid. You promised information on delivery in July and only then told us the dealer was out of stock, but you were going to "take a few more orders". I have asked that I be informed of the shipping situation, offered to only take delivery on one of the two bumpers I ordered so that someone else could get theirs when you said you'd fill the order on a first come first served basis since you wouldn’t be able to fill all the orders at once. None of these concerns have been answered or even replied to. I haven't bitched about price of your product or the shipping once. I have asked about getting a cover, for over two months now. I think four months is a little beyond the scope of reason for items paid for up front in full. You guys need to retake Business 101 if you think this is a profitable model. The "discount" afforded by your group purchase has been outweighed by wasted time and frustration. I asked for a response over a week ago and again you and your business partner failed to respond or reply. I asked for a refund on yesterday. I'm asking again today. I’ve decided to take my business elsewhere, I wish you success in getting yours straightened out.
Last edited by syclone_jak; Aug 29, 2007 at 02:36 AM. Reason: forgot sumthin
it's been 20 days since you said they were available... ship the bumper separately... nothing else needs paint.
If I can't get it by next weekend, i need to look somewhere else.
please let me know as soon as possible if you will have one by then.
will
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You know its kind of disappointing I seem to keep having these onesided emails. I haven't had any of my questions answered. I did get a mention of an "outside life" and "everything we said was the truth". I haven't heard comment one about the chance of getting a cover OEM, plateless or any other kind. I have been asking since my second post on this thread two months ago about my need to have one secured by September. The only thing I care about is getting my car ready to drive. I asked multiple times for shipping information on my purchase. I understand that you said your supplier is out of the bumper covers themselves, this you informed all of the individuals involved in the group buy after we had paid. You promised information on delivery in July and only then told us the dealer was out of stock, but you were going to "take a few more orders". I have asked that I be informed of the shipping situation, offered to only take delivery on one of the two bumpers I ordered so that someone else could get theirs when you said you'd fill the order on a first come first served basis since you wouldn’t be able to fill all the orders at once. None of these concerns have been answered or even replied to. I haven't bitched about price of your product or the shipping once. I have asked about getting a cover, for over two months now. I think four months is a little beyond the scope of reason for items paid for up front in full. You guys need to retake Business 101 if you think this is a profitable model. The "discount" afforded by your group purchase has been outweighed by wasted time and frustration. I asked for a response over a week ago and again you and your business partner failed to respond or reply. I asked for a refund on yesterday. I'm asking again today. I’ve decided to take my business elsewhere, I wish you success in getting yours straightened out.
2) As stated in the thread we don't offer refunds. We work in a prepay business where money is given upfront for parts in exchange for a discount.
3) If you had a problem ordering parts from a business run by 2 individuals, with all the problems that come from that business, you should have done your research before sending money. It is obvious by all the threads in this subforum how we operate.
That said we are always willing to work with customers. If you want to switch your order over to a plateless to cut down the wait time we can do that. If you want to discuss anything privately PM me. All I ask is that you show me the same respect I show you.
Jason, you beat me to it.
Jak, your shooting yourself in the foot. It's real simple. NO ONE carries $20,000 worth of 99spec parts in inventory. NO ONE. Not even Mazda, as this GB has shown.
When we run a GB, we gather interest. Based on that interest we make inquiry into the inventory. I ALWAYS make sure to do this. But I don't purchase the parts up front prior to having received payment from customers, as some customers have a tendency to flake on businesses in that matter. So no $$ = no parts ordered. But again, I make SURE the supplier is aware of the amount of orders I'm expecting. Naturally, they ALWAYS say they have stuff in stock, because they don't want you going elsewhere, or they aren't really aware of what's in stock, or hey, it could be an honest mistake. But the bottom line is, in the end, when I make the supplier aware, I'm going based on what they've told me. And I can't control that at ALL.
So when I first took the orders, I was promised the parts were in stock. How it all disappeared literally overnight, I don't know. That was a shocker to me. But it was out of my hands. So I was promised stock in mid to late July, which I passed on to you. They were behind schedule. Again, out of my hands. The stock just arrived THIS WEEK, and parts finally got shipped out to customers TODAY. That's THEM being behind schedule, NOT me. There's nothing I can do to change that fact. And I didn't promise anyone delivery by any specific time; I was merely passing on the update I received from Mazda. That's all.
And OF COURSE I'll fill the orders in the order received. It's only fair. If someone takes their time jumping onto the GB, yet wants their order filled first...that doesn't make sense! If you're on a time schedule, you need to join early and/or plan accordingly! Now you make a good point. Some may feel the savings are no longer worth the wait. And hey, that's completely subjective, and if you feel that, then you're right to feel that in your own right. So here's my simple suggestion to you. If you are on ANY time schedule, plan accordingly. And as such, don't join a group buy! Group buys BY THEIR VERY NATURE are known to essentially demand of a supplier more than their stock can supply. No one carries an inventory large enough to cover the GBs I've run. NO ONE to date. Not a SINGLE time. So do your homework and understand that delays are INEVITABLE. If at that point - PRIOR to joining the GB, you feel time is more important than savings, your choice is simple: purchase the part individually, separate from the GB. I have ppl who do that ALL the time. Ppl tell me they don't want to wait for the GB, need the part by X date, I tell 'em if I can do it (99% of the time which I can), and we make it happen. Because getting ONE bumper to YOU on time is MUCH easier than getting 20 bumpers to 20 different people on time. C'mon now, it ain't rocket science...
As for your unanswered questions, lemme put it like this. I can read. I'm assuming you can too. Then follow directions. https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=66. RE-read what you should have read before. I do not, will not, and can not take responsibility for your inability to follow directions. If you submit your individual issues/concerns/etc using the wrong venue, that's YOUR mistake, NOT mine. The GB threads (as you can find plastered ALL over our vendor section) is for GB inquiries ONLY, and individual question are to be directed to the appropriate person - in this case Jason - OFF the thread.
Moreover, had you read the above post, you would have realized that GBs have a no-refund policy, because once you hand me the money, I hand it over to the supplier. It's at that point out of my hands.
As for your little Paypal fiasco, now I'm even MORE adamant about NOT refunding you, REGARDLESS of the circumstance. Normally I'm a VERY laid back, relaxed individual. But if you wanna play hardball, so can I. Paypal Resolution Center isn't a joke you can play with as you please. It carries with it VERY serious business implications. But more importantly, YOU entered into the GB of your own free will, YOU are held responsible for the disclaimer we place in the beginning of the GB, and as such YOU need to be held accountable for YOUR actions. Had your little Paypal stunt resulted in freezing of our funds, you would have had a LOT of forum members looking for YOU (not me), because your impatience, lack of responsibility, and inability to follow directions could very well have resulted in the money (and as such orders) of a LOT of ppl being suspended, hung in the air.
It's situations like these that are the VERY reason why when I speak w/ other RX7Club Forum Vendors (and ONLY vendors on THIS club) that they tell me they've canceled their Paypal accounts LONG ago...b/c it's simply not worth it...
~Ramy
Jak, your shooting yourself in the foot. It's real simple. NO ONE carries $20,000 worth of 99spec parts in inventory. NO ONE. Not even Mazda, as this GB has shown.
When we run a GB, we gather interest. Based on that interest we make inquiry into the inventory. I ALWAYS make sure to do this. But I don't purchase the parts up front prior to having received payment from customers, as some customers have a tendency to flake on businesses in that matter. So no $$ = no parts ordered. But again, I make SURE the supplier is aware of the amount of orders I'm expecting. Naturally, they ALWAYS say they have stuff in stock, because they don't want you going elsewhere, or they aren't really aware of what's in stock, or hey, it could be an honest mistake. But the bottom line is, in the end, when I make the supplier aware, I'm going based on what they've told me. And I can't control that at ALL.
So when I first took the orders, I was promised the parts were in stock. How it all disappeared literally overnight, I don't know. That was a shocker to me. But it was out of my hands. So I was promised stock in mid to late July, which I passed on to you. They were behind schedule. Again, out of my hands. The stock just arrived THIS WEEK, and parts finally got shipped out to customers TODAY. That's THEM being behind schedule, NOT me. There's nothing I can do to change that fact. And I didn't promise anyone delivery by any specific time; I was merely passing on the update I received from Mazda. That's all.
And OF COURSE I'll fill the orders in the order received. It's only fair. If someone takes their time jumping onto the GB, yet wants their order filled first...that doesn't make sense! If you're on a time schedule, you need to join early and/or plan accordingly! Now you make a good point. Some may feel the savings are no longer worth the wait. And hey, that's completely subjective, and if you feel that, then you're right to feel that in your own right. So here's my simple suggestion to you. If you are on ANY time schedule, plan accordingly. And as such, don't join a group buy! Group buys BY THEIR VERY NATURE are known to essentially demand of a supplier more than their stock can supply. No one carries an inventory large enough to cover the GBs I've run. NO ONE to date. Not a SINGLE time. So do your homework and understand that delays are INEVITABLE. If at that point - PRIOR to joining the GB, you feel time is more important than savings, your choice is simple: purchase the part individually, separate from the GB. I have ppl who do that ALL the time. Ppl tell me they don't want to wait for the GB, need the part by X date, I tell 'em if I can do it (99% of the time which I can), and we make it happen. Because getting ONE bumper to YOU on time is MUCH easier than getting 20 bumpers to 20 different people on time. C'mon now, it ain't rocket science...
As for your unanswered questions, lemme put it like this. I can read. I'm assuming you can too. Then follow directions. https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=66. RE-read what you should have read before. I do not, will not, and can not take responsibility for your inability to follow directions. If you submit your individual issues/concerns/etc using the wrong venue, that's YOUR mistake, NOT mine. The GB threads (as you can find plastered ALL over our vendor section) is for GB inquiries ONLY, and individual question are to be directed to the appropriate person - in this case Jason - OFF the thread.
Moreover, had you read the above post, you would have realized that GBs have a no-refund policy, because once you hand me the money, I hand it over to the supplier. It's at that point out of my hands.
As for your little Paypal fiasco, now I'm even MORE adamant about NOT refunding you, REGARDLESS of the circumstance. Normally I'm a VERY laid back, relaxed individual. But if you wanna play hardball, so can I. Paypal Resolution Center isn't a joke you can play with as you please. It carries with it VERY serious business implications. But more importantly, YOU entered into the GB of your own free will, YOU are held responsible for the disclaimer we place in the beginning of the GB, and as such YOU need to be held accountable for YOUR actions. Had your little Paypal stunt resulted in freezing of our funds, you would have had a LOT of forum members looking for YOU (not me), because your impatience, lack of responsibility, and inability to follow directions could very well have resulted in the money (and as such orders) of a LOT of ppl being suspended, hung in the air.
It's situations like these that are the VERY reason why when I speak w/ other RX7Club Forum Vendors (and ONLY vendors on THIS club) that they tell me they've canceled their Paypal accounts LONG ago...b/c it's simply not worth it...
~Ramy
Last edited by FDNewbie; Aug 29, 2007 at 08:29 PM.
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You know its kind of disappointing I seem to keep having these onesided emails. I haven't had any of my questions answered. I did get a mention of an "outside life" and "everything we said was the truth". I haven't heard comment one about the chance of getting a cover OEM, plateless or any other kind. I have been asking since my second post on this thread two months ago about my need to have one secured by September. The only thing I care about is getting my car ready to drive. I asked multiple times for shipping information on my purchase. I understand that you said your supplier is out of the bumper covers themselves, this you informed all of the individuals involved in the group buy after we had paid. You promised information on delivery in July and only then told us the dealer was out of stock, but you were going to "take a few more orders". I have asked that I be informed of the shipping situation, offered to only take delivery on one of the two bumpers I ordered so that someone else could get theirs when you said you'd fill the order on a first come first served basis since you wouldn’t be able to fill all the orders at once. None of these concerns have been answered or even replied to. I haven't bitched about price of your product or the shipping once. I have asked about getting a cover, for over two months now. I think four months is a little beyond the scope of reason for items paid for up front in full. You guys need to retake Business 101 if you think this is a profitable model. The "discount" afforded by your group purchase has been outweighed by wasted time and frustration. I asked for a response over a week ago and again you and your business partner failed to respond or reply. I asked for a refund on yesterday. I'm asking again today. I’ve decided to take my business elsewhere, I wish you success in getting yours straightened out.
Just some advice from someone that was in a GB that I felt streacthed "to long" (Not a GB from Ramy).....sell your "spot" in the GB for the GB cost. Especially when there is an obvious no refund policy.
I KNOW there are people out there that would buy your spot for what you have in it...hell I WOULD buy your spot. As long as you communicate that to the GB vendor then you are good to go and everyone is happy.....
So if you want to "sell" your spot and Ramy/Jason are ok with it hit me up on PM...maybe we can straighten this out for everyone!
Seriously man...it happens. It's the nature of GBs. Essentially you're signing up to get something top quality for bottom dollar and with an extended wait. That IS what a GB is. Of course, we do our best to minimize the wait time, but with the quantities we're dealing with, it's just the nature of the beast...
sell your "spot" in the GB for the GB cost. Especially when there is an obvious no refund policy.
I KNOW there are people out there that would buy your spot for what you have in it...hell I WOULD buy your spot. As long as you communicate that to the GB vendor then you are good to go and everyone is happy.....
So if you want to "sell" your spot and Ramy/Jason are ok with it hit me up on PM...maybe we can straighten this out for everyone!
I KNOW there are people out there that would buy your spot for what you have in it...hell I WOULD buy your spot. As long as you communicate that to the GB vendor then you are good to go and everyone is happy.....
So if you want to "sell" your spot and Ramy/Jason are ok with it hit me up on PM...maybe we can straighten this out for everyone!
Now if he wants to contact Paypal and somehow remove/cancel his dispute (even though I'm not sure he can at this point), we're good. But if not, he may have to man up to his actions and deal w/ things as they lay...cuz I don't think I'm gonna let him sell his spot at this point...
Yea, I'm pretty darn sore. But that's how your supposed to feel when someone takes formal action to jeopardize your entire business' livelihood, isn't it? **Especially** when it's secondary to their irresponsibility...
Just some advice from someone that was in a GB that I felt streacthed "to long" (Not a GB from Ramy).....sell your "spot" in the GB for the GB cost. Especially when there is an obvious no refund policy.
I KNOW there are people out there that would buy your spot for what you have in it...hell I WOULD buy your spot. As long as you communicate that to the GB vendor then you are good to go and everyone is happy.....
So if you want to "sell" your spot and Ramy/Jason are ok with it hit me up on PM...maybe we can straighten this out for everyone!
I KNOW there are people out there that would buy your spot for what you have in it...hell I WOULD buy your spot. As long as you communicate that to the GB vendor then you are good to go and everyone is happy.....
So if you want to "sell" your spot and Ramy/Jason are ok with it hit me up on PM...maybe we can straighten this out for everyone!
Oh and FYI, I don't mind leaving the GB open and allowing newcomers to join, so long as you guys can read the rules
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Ramy, I've been denying new entries until we satisfy our current orders. Lets go for a 2nd GB later on instead of extending this one.
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I didnt get any answers to my inquires about joining saying I could....or I would have 
Also I didnt realize that he filed a paypal complaint against you.
Last to rozado...dont go stealing my idea...if Ramy clears him to "sell his spot" I got dibs baby!!
Also I didnt realize that he filed a paypal complaint against you.
Last to rozado...dont go stealing my idea...if Ramy clears him to "sell his spot" I got dibs baby!!