European Lounge: hijack thread!
Dorifto Tengoku No More
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From: On the mountain of Thessaloniki, Greece
Have a look at this.
Pics I took when me and dimitris greece were working on a friends FD.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?threadid=233218
Pics I took when me and dimitris greece were working on a friends FD.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?threadid=233218
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From: Elsenborn, Belgian Eifel
I didn't want to start a new thread for this, so here I am... 
Today I got the FC running. That was rather nice...
I tried a few days ago, but it didn't work. So we called it a day then, and now I have added coolant, checked the fuel pump wiring, re-wired correctly (some mods done there, maybe anti-theft cut off???), and we tried.
It didn't want to at first. So just when I decided to give up, I just tried one more time. And yep, it goes! It blew rust from the exhaust pipes (not very funny, my brother stood behind it...
), and then died. Tried again, throttled it a bit, and kept it running. We then checked everything again, and tried a last time. Now it made a steady 1000rpm, and didn't go bad at all. It kept running, but fuel warning lamp is on, so maybe a bit more fuel might be a good idea 
Now we can start the real work: welding the rusted areas... Other then that, the car seems to be getting there. And I sure hope it does, as I need that garage!!!

Today I got the FC running. That was rather nice...
I tried a few days ago, but it didn't work. So we called it a day then, and now I have added coolant, checked the fuel pump wiring, re-wired correctly (some mods done there, maybe anti-theft cut off???), and we tried.
It didn't want to at first. So just when I decided to give up, I just tried one more time. And yep, it goes! It blew rust from the exhaust pipes (not very funny, my brother stood behind it...
), and then died. Tried again, throttled it a bit, and kept it running. We then checked everything again, and tried a last time. Now it made a steady 1000rpm, and didn't go bad at all. It kept running, but fuel warning lamp is on, so maybe a bit more fuel might be a good idea 
Now we can start the real work: welding the rusted areas... Other then that, the car seems to be getting there. And I sure hope it does, as I need that garage!!!
Man im in doubt right now.
I talked to our shop foreman today, he wants me to become teamleader/manager at the nightshift that im at. But im a bit hesitant cause I like the people that I work with and they like me. The problem is that I cant stand not being liked and therefore im not interested in making decisions about my coworkers which may not like the outcome, sure it pays 180 euros more a month but that aint much when the tax is payed, So far im saying no to this promotion.
Not that your opinion matters on my decisions
, but what would you guys do in my situation???
I talked to our shop foreman today, he wants me to become teamleader/manager at the nightshift that im at. But im a bit hesitant cause I like the people that I work with and they like me. The problem is that I cant stand not being liked and therefore im not interested in making decisions about my coworkers which may not like the outcome, sure it pays 180 euros more a month but that aint much when the tax is payed, So far im saying no to this promotion.
Not that your opinion matters on my decisions
, but what would you guys do in my situation???
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From: Elsenborn, Belgian Eifel
I'd become teamleader and **** off my college's! 
Nah, just joking. Well, the few euro's extra are always welcome, but if they mean you'd be unhappy in your job, forget about it. You know Kim, there's more in live then money. Having a nice job is way better then going to work each day saying "I just count down the minutes".
I should know, as it's 4:32am (!) right now, and I'm getting ready to leave in 10 minutes, for an early shift...

Nah, just joking. Well, the few euro's extra are always welcome, but if they mean you'd be unhappy in your job, forget about it. You know Kim, there's more in live then money. Having a nice job is way better then going to work each day saying "I just count down the minutes".
I should know, as it's 4:32am (!) right now, and I'm getting ready to leave in 10 minutes, for an early shift...
It's a tough call to make, no doubt about it. I realize you've already made your decision, but just for future reference, I'll give you my insight.
I have been in your position before. Being in the military, I had no choice in the matter. When I advanced in paygrade, I gained new responsibilities. It wasn't easy working with the guys one day, and telling them what to do the next. When your friends observe you gaining responsibility, and the benefits that come with it, it's only natural that they will experience some resentment and jealousy. Wouldn't you? But (and I know this sounds stupid), if they really are your friends, they will understand and support you. If they are only back-biting ********, then you really didn't need them as friends anyway.
I don't know what the economy is like over there, but if it's as bad as it is here, I think you should have taken the job. Considering that your co-workers aren't going to pay your bills for you, you owe it to yourself and your family. Especially since THEY asked YOU to take the promotion. And by showing yourself as a good performer in this job, you will likely have the opportunity for more responsibilities and more pay. Who knows, one day you could be the one who goes to play golf at noon, and drives to work in his brand new RX-7.
I know this sounds like a typical capitalistic American point of view, but, the sad fact of the matter is that money makes the world go 'round. I don't like it any more than you do, but face it: in industrialized nations, favors only go so far. More money means you can afford nicer things, and more toys.
More money equates to more freedom.
Now, I do understand your take on the situation. Every time I have gotten advanced, I moved to a different command (work place, if you will) shortly thereafter. It is VERY difficult to be the boss of people with whom you were formerly working. But, hey, someone has to do it, right? Why not you, since you know the job well, and get along with your co-workers? In my opinion, the IDEAL way to handle this situation would be to say, "Yes, I'll take the promotion, but only if I get to move to a different shift, or department," or whatever. If you don't want to change shift/department/location, though, that's not really an option. In that case, you would be better served by just taking the job and dealing with the changes.
Oh boy, I can hardly wait for the flames...
Ren
I have been in your position before. Being in the military, I had no choice in the matter. When I advanced in paygrade, I gained new responsibilities. It wasn't easy working with the guys one day, and telling them what to do the next. When your friends observe you gaining responsibility, and the benefits that come with it, it's only natural that they will experience some resentment and jealousy. Wouldn't you? But (and I know this sounds stupid), if they really are your friends, they will understand and support you. If they are only back-biting ********, then you really didn't need them as friends anyway.
I don't know what the economy is like over there, but if it's as bad as it is here, I think you should have taken the job. Considering that your co-workers aren't going to pay your bills for you, you owe it to yourself and your family. Especially since THEY asked YOU to take the promotion. And by showing yourself as a good performer in this job, you will likely have the opportunity for more responsibilities and more pay. Who knows, one day you could be the one who goes to play golf at noon, and drives to work in his brand new RX-7.
I know this sounds like a typical capitalistic American point of view, but, the sad fact of the matter is that money makes the world go 'round. I don't like it any more than you do, but face it: in industrialized nations, favors only go so far. More money means you can afford nicer things, and more toys.
More money equates to more freedom.Now, I do understand your take on the situation. Every time I have gotten advanced, I moved to a different command (work place, if you will) shortly thereafter. It is VERY difficult to be the boss of people with whom you were formerly working. But, hey, someone has to do it, right? Why not you, since you know the job well, and get along with your co-workers? In my opinion, the IDEAL way to handle this situation would be to say, "Yes, I'll take the promotion, but only if I get to move to a different shift, or department," or whatever. If you don't want to change shift/department/location, though, that's not really an option. In that case, you would be better served by just taking the job and dealing with the changes.
Oh boy, I can hardly wait for the flames...

Ren
Ok Ren
To start with, I like my coworkers and supposedly they like me too. I would like to keep it that way. It IS inevitedable(sp) that some of them are gonna be either jealous or I would have to make a decission that aint so nice concerning them and their job.
Ofcourse I could just do it in a nice way and be polite as usual, but the outcome is still the same.
On the other hand, I couldnt care less about them, I dont know the majority of them on a personal get together basis. So why bother??? Because, and I have noticed this before, when I get responsebility for my job which contains having a full owerview of whats going on in the shop, keep everyone busy and hand over the shop to the next shift, it involves alot more but im not getting into details here, I am prone to switch over to to my "Alter ego" and it´s very stressfull for even a day so I cant imagine myself doing it for years.
At the moment I dont have a problem with what I get paid as I in one year can get close to a normal family income if I really want to take all the overtime that is offered. Base sallary is also good and im fine with being "on the floor" working hard for my money.
If I chose to have that job, I would still perform the same job as I do now but It would also include alot of other duties that Will/DOES affect the time that I have for getting the job done.
IMO its not worth the extra 1,2 euros/hour to be maxed out every day at work.
Kim
To start with, I like my coworkers and supposedly they like me too. I would like to keep it that way. It IS inevitedable(sp) that some of them are gonna be either jealous or I would have to make a decission that aint so nice concerning them and their job.
Ofcourse I could just do it in a nice way and be polite as usual, but the outcome is still the same.
On the other hand, I couldnt care less about them, I dont know the majority of them on a personal get together basis. So why bother??? Because, and I have noticed this before, when I get responsebility for my job which contains having a full owerview of whats going on in the shop, keep everyone busy and hand over the shop to the next shift, it involves alot more but im not getting into details here, I am prone to switch over to to my "Alter ego" and it´s very stressfull for even a day so I cant imagine myself doing it for years.
At the moment I dont have a problem with what I get paid as I in one year can get close to a normal family income if I really want to take all the overtime that is offered. Base sallary is also good and im fine with being "on the floor" working hard for my money.
If I chose to have that job, I would still perform the same job as I do now but It would also include alot of other duties that Will/DOES affect the time that I have for getting the job done.
IMO its not worth the extra 1,2 euros/hour to be maxed out every day at work.
Kim
Fair enough. 
One day, though, you will reach the point where the money you're getting isn't good enough. Just hope that there's a position open for you to move up. Especially now that you've basically told your bosses that you don't want the added responsibility... don't be surprised if they later pass you over for promotion again.
Please don't think I'm admonishing you for your decision. I'm not trying to be a smart ***. I'm simply sharing my experiences, both personal and observed.
Ren

One day, though, you will reach the point where the money you're getting isn't good enough. Just hope that there's a position open for you to move up. Especially now that you've basically told your bosses that you don't want the added responsibility... don't be surprised if they later pass you over for promotion again.
Please don't think I'm admonishing you for your decision. I'm not trying to be a smart ***. I'm simply sharing my experiences, both personal and observed.
Ren
admonishing????
As I told him my reasons for not accepting the job, he said that he understood my reasons and accepted that. I work at a large international shop that cares about their employees, so I chose to believe him, call me a
but that how it works there
He also told me that he probably would ask me again later in the new year if there was changes in the work schedule.
One of the main reasons are that if I chose this job, then im "Stuck" at the night shifts which isnt involed in my future plans.
As I told him my reasons for not accepting the job, he said that he understood my reasons and accepted that. I work at a large international shop that cares about their employees, so I chose to believe him, call me a
but that how it works there
He also told me that he probably would ask me again later in the new year if there was changes in the work schedule.
One of the main reasons are that if I chose this job, then im "Stuck" at the night shifts which isnt involed in my future plans.
From dictionary.com...
admonish:
3. take to task; "He admonished the child for his bad behavior" [syn: reprove]
reprove:
1. To voice or convey disapproval of; rebuke. See Synonyms at admonish.
2. To find fault with.
Actually, I used the word rather wrongly. In fact, I was admonishing you, just not in the sense that I was used to hearing the word used.
admonish:
1. To reprove gently but earnestly.
2. To counsel (another) against something to be avoided; caution.
3. To remind of something forgotten or disregarded, as an obligation or a responsibility.
See, I learned something today...
Ren
admonish:
3. take to task; "He admonished the child for his bad behavior" [syn: reprove]
reprove:
1. To voice or convey disapproval of; rebuke. See Synonyms at admonish.
2. To find fault with.
Actually, I used the word rather wrongly. In fact, I was admonishing you, just not in the sense that I was used to hearing the word used.
admonish:
1. To reprove gently but earnestly.
2. To counsel (another) against something to be avoided; caution.
3. To remind of something forgotten or disregarded, as an obligation or a responsibility.
See, I learned something today...

Ren
Higgi, did you lock the latest "controversial" thread, or was it done from above? Not that it matters, of course. I just hate to see things get killed because they are too sensitive. If it was really that much of an issue, it COULD have been moved to the Difference of Opinion section of the Lounge. 
Ren

Ren
Ren, I think that thread was moved to DOO
It was getting out of hand, and stirred up our tightly knit euroforum
Someone must have closed it.
Then ofcourse there is allways the spaceshuttle thread if you get bored and need to waste a few hours.
It was getting out of hand, and stirred up our tightly knit euroforum
Someone must have closed it.
Then ofcourse there is allways the spaceshuttle thread if you get bored and need to waste a few hours.
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From: Elsenborn, Belgian Eifel
Hey, but the sucker who closed the thread did ruin my welcome back for Sully! And, no, I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I think his last post was pretty cool, but now I cannot welcome him! 
What the ****, who ever closed this thread obviously doesn't like the freedom of speech, even if they have that freedom in the USA, Uk, and now, even in Bagdad
I mean, we weren't flaming (yet) were we? Maybe we must boycot the closer? Or what about invade his country and free it? Might take some RX-7 parts back home, as a payment
Anyway, I'll better shut my mouth now, cause the hijack thread shouldn't be closed. Just look at the lenght of this thing, and the number of views. I guess I started a real winner back then

What the ****, who ever closed this thread obviously doesn't like the freedom of speech, even if they have that freedom in the USA, Uk, and now, even in Bagdad
I mean, we weren't flaming (yet) were we? Maybe we must boycot the closer? Or what about invade his country and free it? Might take some RX-7 parts back home, as a payment

Anyway, I'll better shut my mouth now, cause the hijack thread shouldn't be closed. Just look at the lenght of this thing, and the number of views. I guess I started a real winner back then
I would have welcomed him back too, I had an email"conversation with his wife Sexxyrx7 about the ROtard thing, which by the way was meant as a statement on his reply to our thread back during the invasion of Irak not on his person, she seems like a mature girl
Or maybe its just the fact that I "Like" married women





Probably the more likely.