jonnyrx7

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Pros/Cons?

Phantomkid

i have heard alot of people happy with the autotune option. also has a afm elimator option i have it wired up in my car right now but have used it to tune yet. just got the lm1 in there. one of the cons for the rx7 not many people have it so it takes a while to get some help. as for being a piggy back im pretty sure its at the top of list,

prof

Pro's

Works with Newer laptops that only have USB ports
Has almost the same abilities as a standalone
Gives control of Ignition (leading and trailing) and Injectors (primary and secondary)
Airflow Meter elimination (although you can't swap vane type for hotwire)
Easy to use
Great logging facilities and map trace tool is excellent
Has Lauch control and other 'toys'


Con's

Not much support out there
Few rotary owners using it
Early firmware versions were bug ridden - get yourself on at least V2.11 or expect problems.
No plug and play harness for FC - not sure about FD ? (Although Field in Japan do a CN-3 ECU extension/patch cable that would be ideal for the FC and early FD ECU's together with the full Emanage harness)

jonnyrx7

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Thanks for the great info. GREDDY does offer a Plug and Play harness for the FD

blasianracer29

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Great info, thanks. This helps b/c I'm about to get one.

shadow98

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Not to thread jack, but I'm assuming you can use the old harness since it's a piggyback. I just found a really good deal on and I'm picking it up tonight.

jonnyrx7

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You can only use the harness from boomslang. Old one won't work. Also I found out its not the best for our cars due to no control over Injector Pulse/Staging

prof

Not sure what you mean there - you have full control over the injector outputs - as you can cut and add fuel +/- 100% with the Ultimate, and not by messing with the air flow either - you have direct control over Injector fueling. you can also support additional Injectors and run seperate maps for primary and secondary injectors. Additional Injectors can be set to trigger with primary or secondary injectors and/or independantly mapped based on a number of different inputs.

It's also possible to do split timing with the Ultimate by setting up the Leading and Trailing plugs on seperate maps, although timing adjustments are a bit more limited being +/- 20 degrees from stock (although that is a lot in any case, and more than enough to remove any split that exists if you wanted to)

indio84

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so anyone using it on there fd?got any results?

FelixIsGod29X

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If you own a FD you might as well get a REAL standalone.

Joe Dirte

So nobody has used this an their FD?

Bwek

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i have the blue in my car i love it beyond what i need at the moment really i plan on going to the ultimate shortly

super easy to use but no one as far as an rx7 really uses it so you are un your own there, but its really straight forward

and if you aren't useing the additional injector control it can be used to control boost via a solenoid (im using a gm boost solenoid cost me $60 and came with the plug brand new from gm)

jonnyrx7

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Even though there are plug and play harness' available. No one is running this on an FD except for Re-Amemiya on some of their cars because they are sponsored by Greddy.

NoPistons!

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Hmm. seems to be very little info about using this on a rotary.

For $510 i'm hard pressed to go with another system and probably will buy one.

NoPistons!

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That being said, the setup i eventually want if i DONT do a 13bre or 13bt swap does not involve the afm. AFM to MAF or AFM to MAP sensor conversion would have to be done.

The downside is you have to modify the electical signals to the ecu and calibrate it.

http://www.splitsec.com/technotes/AF...Conversion.pdf

IMO, the best way to use emanage ultimate on a flexible setup (i never leave anything set in stone) while removing the afm would be to go with an fd ecu and harness or not use it at all. You can go as far as to swap your fc sensors out with fd units but i'm not sure yet if you need too.

IF the parts are available cheaply, i say go for it. The plus side is you're not starting with a blank map. To me, it's not THAT much more different than getting a power fc and tuning it to fit your specific engine characteristics. You just have a bit more control, especially over ignition with the apexi unit. And if i were to run emu, i would run NO split timing at all. Gets rid of that headache...


Sorry for digging this back up BUT i'm bored out of my mind playing the ''waiting game" so i'm researching points of interest and sharing them.

Bwek

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You dont have to do any afm to map conversion the ultimate does that

Do not use an FD ecu or sensors it is not needed Use what is in the car

And you do need split timing and the Emanage Ultimate can control that easily as well

Hygoog

I'm thinking about getting one for my S5 6 port turbo. A guy online is selling one that came out of a Ap1 S2000 greddy turbo. Debating if I should grab it. How easy is it to install and setup a base map?