Elite Rotary Shop Full Intake System
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#56
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We will have all the data of before and after, in January Mr. Howard Coleman is having one installed on his car right now. The perfect person to test the intake system, Also Ihor from IRP is currently installing one on his Shop RX7. Plus everyone else that has purchased one,We do know our intake system is 46% larger than a stock FD Intake system as shown in the pictures below.
#57
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So guys I just received my Elite intake manifold and I have to admit it is one damn solid product. I only had 1 complaint about the intake manifold but everything else seemed to look good. In my opinion there is no other intake manifold on the market that even compare to this one! It has so many unique features that allow for the best performance possible. I was too lazy to type out a long review so i just made a simple video instead with a few pictures to go along with it. My car probably will not be running for a month or 2 to test it but hopefully this helps.
Last edited by AaronJ; 01-05-17 at 05:33 AM.
#58
Rotary Freak
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Originally Posted by ninesixtwo
Shouldn't you guys have been the perfect people to test this intake system? Do you have any before and after data from the development process?
#59
Racing Rotary Since 1983
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Aaron,
my compliments to you for a helpful and objective non-affiliated report re the Elite manifold.
i do think you correctly zeroed in on one aspect of the manifold that immediately struck me as significant... the crucial 90 degree radius from downward and into the port. neither the stock or Ground Zero/Excessive efficiently negotiate this important bend. Elite nails it.
another aspect is the primary side of the manifold. while the BREW is the high water point as to the 2 rotor and has so many advances over the prior iterations i have always felt that Mazda unduly penalized the primary side.
both the primary runners, 30 mm!, and the tiny intake ports were probably designed by the same guy who came up w the OE twin turbo manifold that is so restrictive it cracks cast iron.
i spend lots of time opening the primary intake port... ideally you want equal airflow from both sides of the rotor combined w minimized restriction.
the Elite manifold design greatly facilitates primary flow.
the area of the OE 30 mm runner is 1.09 square inches
the area of the Elite primary runner is 2.07 square inches.
while i am not quite on the dyno i do have some comparative experience w the stock FD Upper/Excessive lower versus the Cosmo which is similar but not as advanced as the Elite.
my CPR motors when properly supported and tuned generally run well to about 8950 and at that point it is probably time for another gear.
the Cosmo manifold on my motors moves the shift point to 9500 so it seems like there's another 500 RPM in the manifold. power was exceptional, 614 SAE at 25.5 PSI on a GT4094r.
i will be very interested in the torque curve as midrange is as important as top end if you are planning to win the race.
2017 is going to get interesting.
Howard
my compliments to you for a helpful and objective non-affiliated report re the Elite manifold.
i do think you correctly zeroed in on one aspect of the manifold that immediately struck me as significant... the crucial 90 degree radius from downward and into the port. neither the stock or Ground Zero/Excessive efficiently negotiate this important bend. Elite nails it.
another aspect is the primary side of the manifold. while the BREW is the high water point as to the 2 rotor and has so many advances over the prior iterations i have always felt that Mazda unduly penalized the primary side.
both the primary runners, 30 mm!, and the tiny intake ports were probably designed by the same guy who came up w the OE twin turbo manifold that is so restrictive it cracks cast iron.
i spend lots of time opening the primary intake port... ideally you want equal airflow from both sides of the rotor combined w minimized restriction.
the Elite manifold design greatly facilitates primary flow.
the area of the OE 30 mm runner is 1.09 square inches
the area of the Elite primary runner is 2.07 square inches.
while i am not quite on the dyno i do have some comparative experience w the stock FD Upper/Excessive lower versus the Cosmo which is similar but not as advanced as the Elite.
my CPR motors when properly supported and tuned generally run well to about 8950 and at that point it is probably time for another gear.
the Cosmo manifold on my motors moves the shift point to 9500 so it seems like there's another 500 RPM in the manifold. power was exceptional, 614 SAE at 25.5 PSI on a GT4094r.
i will be very interested in the torque curve as midrange is as important as top end if you are planning to win the race.
2017 is going to get interesting.
Howard
#60
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Idea to ponder over...
If you produced a small test run of FC lower to FD Upper mating manifolds then that would corner the market on guys using an FC Lower and then having to buy an adapter piece to mate the FD upper Manifold!
I am sure they would be scooped up if the word got around!
If you produced a small test run of FC lower to FD Upper mating manifolds then that would corner the market on guys using an FC Lower and then having to buy an adapter piece to mate the FD upper Manifold!
I am sure they would be scooped up if the word got around!
#61
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
I think a nice addition to the lineup would be FC Turbo II lower that mates perfectly to this upper for a true REW upper conversion (TB flows better as well).
It would be a nice product at $700 and can feature the same 4 injector bungs as this does.
It would be a nice product at $700 and can feature the same 4 injector bungs as this does.
#62
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Very interested to see how this product performs. With the much better flowing primaries, I would not be surprised to see improved higher rpm performance but this may come at the expense of low-mid range compared to a FD intake.
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#68
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So, for the guys that have received theirs already, what kind of turn around did you guys experience? I put in my order 3 weeks ago and can't log in to their site to review the status of my order, so I emailed them a few times and still haven't heard back.
Also, how are you guys working out idle control with these manifolds? Pictures with solutions? I'd really appreciate it.
Also, how are you guys working out idle control with these manifolds? Pictures with solutions? I'd really appreciate it.
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So, for the guys that have received theirs already, what kind of turn around did you guys experience? I put in my order 3 weeks ago and can't log in to their site to review the status of my order, so I emailed them a few times and still haven't heard back.
Also, how are you guys working out idle control with these manifolds? Pictures with solutions? I'd really appreciate it.
Also, how are you guys working out idle control with these manifolds? Pictures with solutions? I'd really appreciate it.
#70
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary
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They take their time, I message them on facebook and they usually answer the same day with status.
For idle I plan to try a couple things, first and easiest is just run manual idle.
Another option is to make the OEM ISC solenoid external by using a ISC block off plate with a couple 1/8 npt fittings and run a hose to connect the elbow to one of the vacuum ports on the UIM that way.
For idle I plan to try a couple things, first and easiest is just run manual idle.
Another option is to make the OEM ISC solenoid external by using a ISC block off plate with a couple 1/8 npt fittings and run a hose to connect the elbow to one of the vacuum ports on the UIM that way.