sunburn

Cannot wait to drive it!

lonetlan

thats it? hehe I'm just kidding.

RE Drifter

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S13 parts on a Fc nice! I'm so ready to do the samething.

Ranzo

Hrrmm so does nissan tie rods screw into a FC rack?

sunburn

I just used the S13 tie rod ends.... they thread on to the stock tie rods.... they are both M12x1.25... this was not a bolt on affair -hence me being awesome and making it work.

sunburn

The thread pitch on the tie rod ends of the S13 and FC are the same... M12 x1.25 the main difference is that the pick up point on the knuckle on the FC are on the front of it vs. the S13 where the pick-up is on the rear. I have a set of Scott's knuckles and ditched the tapered shaft that came with the kit and went with a straight bolt.

Here is what the knuckles look like: (in this pic I'm still using the stock rod ends and pickup point)



The turnbuckle needed trimmed as well or I did not have enough adjustment in the tie rod and the car would have been toed out pretty bad. All in all it is a really straight forward install and I'm pretty sure the S13 tie rod ends will work with the stock pick-up point on the FC, I'm going to try it out tonight just to see if it's a easy solution for those without knuckles wanting more angle.

Hypertek

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did you go with stock s13 tie rod ends or aftermarket?

sunburn

Aftermarket... I used the K-sport fir a test model because they are only $100 and If it was money down the drain then **** it.

With the knuckles I have I needed 14mm ID and a 12x1.25 female thread pitch to go on the stock tie rod... the K-sport fit the bill.

I'll run them till they break then get something baller.

pics later tonight of the installed goodies.




removed the tapered bolt and used a straight one

NoPistons!

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I had trouble getting those tapered ***** to seat all the way in my knuckles. Hammer persuasion did not work. Oh well. If they snap and my car flips 1349023980923849 times and i die....wait. nevermind. My car hasn't made it out of the driveway enough for that to happen.

Anyway, nice. Your build=function=good stuff.

sunburn

I replaced the angled bolt with a straight one... check back for pics later tonight.

sunburn

OK here goes...


you all know the modified knuckle -with the stock rod end pick up... look a few posts above if you don't.

Here is the modified knuckle:



Now you'll notice right off that the ID of the new pick up point is different... larger and not tapered like the factory pick-up.

This posed the issue of finding a heim joint that would work, by work I mean thread on to the factory tie rods and have a 14mm ID for the new pick-up point. I know the mazdatrix ones would work... but they are procey and suck donkey dick... I threw out the question on a few sites and George from AZ informed me that the S13 rod ends were the same thread pitch as the FC, M12x1.25 and that a Ksport S13 kit might just work. Now K-Sport S13 kits come with a tapered bolt in them as well that is easily removed leaving a 14mm ID heim joint thats mated up to a M12x 1.25 buckle... perfect! I now have proper parts! I know K-sport sucks -but I'd rather spend $100 for a set and figure out exactly what I need then get something baller once I know it's going to work.

here is the new rod end and straight bolt
NOW I KNOW THIS IS NOT A CASTLE BOLT ECT -TEST FIT HERE!!! SO DON'T SAY ANYTHING! I KNOW ALREADY! proper bolts are on the way.

here is the K-sport rod end with new non-taper bolt:
(again this will be replaced with a castle bolt)


Stock vs. K-sport.


time to fit it:



as expected fits right on:




Now it is simply a matter of attaching the tie rod to the spindle! almost done!!! or am I?

here is the two put together:



Mega angle! -but wait... no adjustment!

if you look back at the pic above of the rod end and the tie rod put together you'll notice that I have it run in as close as I could get it, or as short as I could make the tie rod...

that was still too long, when I assembled everything back together with the Steering wheel centered and the tie rods adjusted as short as possible I was toed out on both sides really bad, could not drive the car bad!

If you look at these pic closely you can clearly see the toe out:





AGGGGHHH!!! :mysmilie_174:


OK... I need to shorten the tie rod... -but not too too much and the female buckle is threading the whole way onto the tie rod, look at this pic again:



now I could remove the tie rod itself and have it threaded deeper and shortened... I'm thinking that is a pain considering I don't really have the tools to do that.

Thought now is shorten the female buckle a bit and the male end of the heim a bit for some adjustment to bring the toe back in a bit... I don't need that much adjustment and before I run off and have the tie rods machined I'm going this route. I'm thinking about a 1/2 inch off each will do the trick.

left the car in parts for tonight and will go trim down the rod ends tomorrow then post results.

People that wanna still run the stock pick-up points

You could drill out the factory pick-up point to 14mm ID and run these no problem... I don't think you would need to trim the buckle or really do anything but the drilling... I gave the tapered bolts that came with the kit to Miro to take to VIR this weekend as back-ups just in case -but when he is back I'll test fit them, this might be a bolt on affair -but we'll see.

OK I'm beat hope this helps some people out.

sunburn

Also test fitted some work Equips... these are 18x10 +17 with a 10mm spacer so basically a +7mm Still have plenty of room!

fcnoevil

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this is pretty sick cant wait to see the end result

stevensimon

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um.. im confused. why are s13 tie rod ends so cool? mazdatrix sells them too. probably the same ones you got for an s13. its like saying i put a corvetter cone air filter on my car.

burtoncr

Another option is the Ikeya Formula adjustable inner tie rods for the S chassis. You can change their length.

sunburn

your right... go buy the mazdatrix ones that fall apart for $200

Djonyx

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Couple of Q's. So all we needed is an S13 tie rod end and cut some of that turn buckle? Can still have the front sway bar on?

stevensimon

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http://mazdatrix.com/getprice.asp?pa...-BUMPSTEER-KIT

http://www.ksportusa.com/asp/rods_de...roduct_id=ra03

??
can anyone confirm that they have seen the mazdatrix parts falling apart? i dont want that **** on my car if thats the case.


anyway. i guess its cool that they have the same thread pitch.

sunburn

Yes the mazdatrix heim joints wear badly and the steering gets sloppy relatively quick or I would have got them. My friend Justin goes to local events here in NJ that has been through 3 sets in the past 2 seasons... after speaking with him a bit I chose to go this route.

USS CJ

my mazdatrix guys are awesome.

id never put an s13 part on my fc haha

sunburn

dare I show my engine

sunburn

Soooooo....


they worked out pretty ****** good!





I don't hit full lock once that day...

Turbo II Rotor

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Awesome.

FelixIsGod29X

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Archive material to me!

nightridaz777

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pretty dope dawg! how much power you running to need all that angle?