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11-02-12, 09:03 PM
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its really not that bad on the street mines been welded for a few months now, you only really notice it in parking lots and its not that bad.
but defiantly if you can afford a nice lsd get one but if your just starting out weld it
but defiantly if you can afford a nice lsd get one but if your just starting out weld it
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11-04-12, 09:44 AM
#9
if youre worried about tire wear, you probably shouldnt try drifting. Ive driven welded diffs daily for years and never had issues. yeah your tires wear faster. but chances are you try and drift regularly so the wear will be not that noticable. but if you get a 2 way and have it setup well then youll probably wear them out just as fast. Sure i would love to buy a 2way or whatever. but fact is I would rather be driving on a welded diff than not driving because I'm saving up for an lsd.
11-04-12, 02:24 PM
#10
to start off, i've ran welded, clutch type n/a, clutch type t2, shimmed t2 clutch type, and a old barely working t2 clutch type, 2 way, open.
welded is great for a low budget diff build. consistent and predictable. noticed that transitions and straightening out of drifts were not as clean as with an actual lsd unit. tire wear is high. turn-in characteristics suffer. pain to drive in the rain if you're retarded. makes chicks look at you while parallel parking as if you're car's broken.
a oem clutch type unit (unshimmed or never taken apart) will work to an extent, but you will feel like you're missing the feeling of it locking under decel. usually used oem lsd's tend to slip a little.
shimmed clutch type (swapping plate surfaces around and shimming plates with coke-can, brakleen shims, etc.) increased the initial torque settings making it daily drivable and driftable. felt more complete than a used oem unit. but it wears out quicker and will need to be reshimmed to keep it just as tight. still lacks the lock under decel.
2-way. almost the same as a welded. tire wear is very noticible as with a welded. turn-in characteristics are not harmed much unlike a welded. great for accel-decel. but i just dont like the idea of daily driving on a 2-way... i feel like im just wasting it.
im sure alot has been unsaid... but by trying alot of different setups, you can really appreciate the differences between each, and realize that you get what you pay for.
i try to build my car based on consistency and predictability... and currently im going from a shimmed clutch type to a welded. would run 2-way but i daily my car way too much
11-05-12, 10:20 AM
#13
welded is a good setup and works on a budget better than anything else.
if you have the cash i'd definitely suggest getting a real clutch type diff though. you will carry more speed and have more control on the line the car takes.
i had a tomei 2 way for a long time and I liked it a lot. but i upgraded to a carbonetics 2 way and it's better IMO. higher locking and more aggressive. it makes the car super fun to drive.
if you have the cash i'd definitely suggest getting a real clutch type diff though. you will carry more speed and have more control on the line the car takes.
i had a tomei 2 way for a long time and I liked it a lot. but i upgraded to a carbonetics 2 way and it's better IMO. higher locking and more aggressive. it makes the car super fun to drive.
11-05-12, 11:07 AM
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welded gets the job done, but for a serious car you'll want a two way. any clutch type will work for drifting (os giken, kaaz, carbonetic, tomei, etc)
i've also daily driven with a welded, it's not too bad. just be careful in the rain, there was one time i was driving in the rain after an all-nighter and accidently found myself in a full-blown drift in the middle of the road because i wasnt paying attention going around a banked turn near my house (comfortable i was almost home, went into auto-pilot) and the back end came out.
i've also daily driven with a welded, it's not too bad. just be careful in the rain, there was one time i was driving in the rain after an all-nighter and accidently found myself in a full-blown drift in the middle of the road because i wasnt paying attention going around a banked turn near my house (comfortable i was almost home, went into auto-pilot) and the back end came out.
11-06-12, 10:57 AM
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11-08-12, 08:11 AM
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Well all in all I've convince my self to go ahead and buy a carbonetic metal LSD from THmotorosports. I'm not concern about any tire ware it's expected that drifting will cause tire wAre . Thanks for all the great advice and insights !
11-22-12, 11:32 AM
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to start off, i've ran welded, clutch type n/a, clutch type t2, shimmed t2 clutch type, and a old barely working t2 clutch type, 2 way, open.
welded is great for a low budget diff build. consistent and predictable. noticed that transitions and straightening out of drifts were not as clean as with an actual lsd unit. tire wear is high. turn-in characteristics suffer. pain to drive in the rain if you're retarded. makes chicks look at you while parallel parking as if you're car's broken.
a oem clutch type unit (unshimmed or never taken apart) will work to an extent, but you will feel like you're missing the feeling of it locking under decel. usually used oem lsd's tend to slip a little.
shimmed clutch type (swapping plate surfaces around and shimming plates with coke-can, brakleen shims, etc.) increased the initial torque settings making it daily drivable and driftable. felt more complete than a used oem unit. but it wears out quicker and will need to be reshimmed to keep it just as tight. still lacks the lock under decel.
2-way. almost the same as a welded. tire wear is very noticible as with a welded. turn-in characteristics are not harmed much unlike a welded. great for accel-decel. but i just dont like the idea of daily driving on a 2-way... i feel like im just wasting it.
im sure alot has been unsaid... but by trying alot of different setups, you can really appreciate the differences between each, and realize that you get what you pay for.
i try to build my car based on consistency and predictability... and currently im going from a shimmed clutch type to a welded. would run 2-way but i daily my car way too much
welded is great for a low budget diff build. consistent and predictable. noticed that transitions and straightening out of drifts were not as clean as with an actual lsd unit. tire wear is high. turn-in characteristics suffer. pain to drive in the rain if you're retarded. makes chicks look at you while parallel parking as if you're car's broken.
a oem clutch type unit (unshimmed or never taken apart) will work to an extent, but you will feel like you're missing the feeling of it locking under decel. usually used oem lsd's tend to slip a little.
shimmed clutch type (swapping plate surfaces around and shimming plates with coke-can, brakleen shims, etc.) increased the initial torque settings making it daily drivable and driftable. felt more complete than a used oem unit. but it wears out quicker and will need to be reshimmed to keep it just as tight. still lacks the lock under decel.
2-way. almost the same as a welded. tire wear is very noticible as with a welded. turn-in characteristics are not harmed much unlike a welded. great for accel-decel. but i just dont like the idea of daily driving on a 2-way... i feel like im just wasting it.
im sure alot has been unsaid... but by trying alot of different setups, you can really appreciate the differences between each, and realize that you get what you pay for.
i try to build my car based on consistency and predictability... and currently im going from a shimmed clutch type to a welded. would run 2-way but i daily my car way too much
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