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whereiswaldo 11-02-12 05:07 PM

Lsd
 
What LSD is everyone using for drifting? Any recommendations? I was thinking Tomei Technical Trax Advanced 2-Way LSD.. HELP me choose the an LSD !!

joshuaput 11-02-12 05:59 PM

pull apart stock diff and weld it. then put back together and enjoy.

whereiswaldo 11-02-12 07:07 PM

Cheap, and Easy ! I like it !!!

seandizzie 11-02-12 08:26 PM

Only, weld it if its a purpose built drift car. It would be a pita on a street driven car.

stevens1092 11-02-12 09:03 PM

its really not that bad on the street mines been welded for a few months now, you only really notice it in parking lots and its not that bad.

but defiantly if you can afford a nice lsd get one but if your just starting out weld it

Oun 11-03-12 01:50 AM

the welded diff might be the cheaper route but over a seemingly short period of time, your tire wear will increase do to your "no slip" diff.
in other words your money will go towards replacing your tires if your car is daily driven.

ComicArtist 11-03-12 09:11 AM

Go welded, Ive dailyed one for two years. Also makes it easier to kick out with low power.

AngelsAndBombs 11-03-12 03:19 PM

Edit: oh, this thread is about differentials. Nvm.

joshuaput 11-04-12 09:44 AM

if youre worried about tire wear, you probably shouldnt try drifting. Ive driven welded diffs daily for years and never had issues. yeah your tires wear faster. but chances are you try and drift regularly so the wear will be not that noticable. but if you get a 2 way and have it setup well then youll probably wear them out just as fast. Sure i would love to buy a 2way or whatever. but fact is I would rather be driving on a welded diff than not driving because I'm saving up for an lsd.

DR_Knight 11-04-12 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by seandizzie (Post 11274997)
Only, weld it if its a purpose built drift car. It would be a pita on a street driven car.

still dont get why everybody says this... such a simple explanation...

to start off, i've ran welded, clutch type n/a, clutch type t2, shimmed t2 clutch type, and a old barely working t2 clutch type, 2 way, open.

welded is great for a low budget diff build. consistent and predictable. noticed that transitions and straightening out of drifts were not as clean as with an actual lsd unit. tire wear is high. turn-in characteristics suffer. pain to drive in the rain if you're retarded. makes chicks look at you while parallel parking as if you're car's broken.

a oem clutch type unit (unshimmed or never taken apart) will work to an extent, but you will feel like you're missing the feeling of it locking under decel. usually used oem lsd's tend to slip a little.

shimmed clutch type (swapping plate surfaces around and shimming plates with coke-can, brakleen shims, etc.) increased the initial torque settings making it daily drivable and driftable. felt more complete than a used oem unit. but it wears out quicker and will need to be reshimmed to keep it just as tight. still lacks the lock under decel.

2-way. almost the same as a welded. tire wear is very noticible as with a welded. turn-in characteristics are not harmed much unlike a welded. great for accel-decel. but i just dont like the idea of daily driving on a 2-way... i feel like im just wasting it.

im sure alot has been unsaid... but by trying alot of different setups, you can really appreciate the differences between each, and realize that you get what you pay for.

i try to build my car based on consistency and predictability... and currently im going from a shimmed clutch type to a welded. would run 2-way but i daily my car way too much

paganizondadude 11-04-12 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by AngelsAndBombs (Post 11275505)
Edit: oh, this thread is about differentials. Nvm.

Lmao.

mikerbike 11-05-12 09:28 AM

Daily'd welded since 2006 til March 2012. Snow, rain, summer, all normal. Bad axles makes it skip in parking lot turns.

Tire wear lol.

sil8ty 11-05-12 10:20 AM

welded is a good setup and works on a budget better than anything else.

if you have the cash i'd definitely suggest getting a real clutch type diff though. you will carry more speed and have more control on the line the car takes.

i had a tomei 2 way for a long time and I liked it a lot. but i upgraded to a carbonetics 2 way and it's better IMO. higher locking and more aggressive. it makes the car super fun to drive.

NWHero 11-05-12 11:07 AM

welded gets the job done, but for a serious car you'll want a two way. any clutch type will work for drifting (os giken, kaaz, carbonetic, tomei, etc)

i've also daily driven with a welded, it's not too bad. just be careful in the rain, there was one time i was driving in the rain after an all-nighter and accidently found myself in a full-blown drift in the middle of the road because i wasnt paying attention going around a banked turn near my house (comfortable i was almost home, went into auto-pilot) and the back end came out.

paganizondadude 11-05-12 09:27 PM

Weld the oem T2 lsd. Shit is so damn strong....

Dont tell me it cant be done. Ive done 2 of them.

mikerbike 11-06-12 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by NWHero (Post 11277202)
i wasnt paying attention going around a banked turn near my house (comfortable i was almost home, went into auto-pilot) and the back end came out.

^^This guy is correct, operator error gives welded a bad name in the snow and rain.

DR_Knight 11-07-12 11:46 AM

Should weld my s4 t2 diff for me paganizondadude. My local shop wont touch welding clutch types

whereiswaldo 11-08-12 08:11 AM

Well all in all I've convince my self to go ahead and buy a carbonetic metal LSD from THmotorosports. I'm not concern about any tire ware it's expected that drifting will cause tire wAre . Thanks for all the great advice and insights !

mannykiller 11-08-12 11:18 AM

good choice and hell of a sale right not on them!

Schmitty 11-08-12 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by whereiswaldo (Post 11280456)
Well all in all I've convince my self to go ahead and buy a carbonetic metal LSD from THmotorosports. I'm not concern about any tire ware it's expected that drifting will cause tire wAre . Thanks for all the great advice and insights !

Any Reason you didn't go with the carbon for $100 more? The description makes it seem like it has a longer service life.

Schmitty 11-08-12 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Nismonic (Post 11280681)
Any Reason you didn't go with the carbon for $100 more? The description makes it seem like it has a longer service life.

Never mind! Just saw the deal in the vendor section. Hope they have one for me too! :nod:

Denorx7 11-08-12 01:17 PM

That's interested I never knew I can weld my diff not for drifting tho but in general ,
How i do that please any pics or instruction be great .

Thanks

paganizondadude 11-09-12 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by DR_Knight (Post 11279552)
Should weld my s4 t2 diff for me paganizondadude. My local shop wont touch welding clutch types


Im 2 states north of you. Shipping would kill. Its super easy.

whereiswaldo 11-10-12 01:10 PM

i just bout a carbonetic 2 way metal lsd, and i need to know what diff oil fluids to use? anyone w/ any good idea?

RichC 11-22-12 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by DR_Knight (Post 11276403)
to start off, i've ran welded, clutch type n/a, clutch type t2, shimmed t2 clutch type, and a old barely working t2 clutch type, 2 way, open.

welded is great for a low budget diff build. consistent and predictable. noticed that transitions and straightening out of drifts were not as clean as with an actual lsd unit. tire wear is high. turn-in characteristics suffer. pain to drive in the rain if you're retarded. makes chicks look at you while parallel parking as if you're car's broken.

a oem clutch type unit (unshimmed or never taken apart) will work to an extent, but you will feel like you're missing the feeling of it locking under decel. usually used oem lsd's tend to slip a little.

shimmed clutch type (swapping plate surfaces around and shimming plates with coke-can, brakleen shims, etc.) increased the initial torque settings making it daily drivable and driftable. felt more complete than a used oem unit. but it wears out quicker and will need to be reshimmed to keep it just as tight. still lacks the lock under decel.

2-way. almost the same as a welded. tire wear is very noticible as with a welded. turn-in characteristics are not harmed much unlike a welded. great for accel-decel. but i just dont like the idea of daily driving on a 2-way... i feel like im just wasting it.

im sure alot has been unsaid... but by trying alot of different setups, you can really appreciate the differences between each, and realize that you get what you pay for.

i try to build my car based on consistency and predictability... and currently im going from a shimmed clutch type to a welded. would run 2-way but i daily my car way too much

Thanks for a great, informative reply. I've been shopping LSDs and having trouble finding this info:Using a 2-way and in regards to locking %, how would say, a 25% locking LSD feel different from a 60%?


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