Lsd
What LSD is everyone using for drifting? Any recommendations? I was thinking Tomei Technical Trax Advanced 2-Way LSD.. HELP me choose the an LSD !!
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pull apart stock diff and weld it. then put back together and enjoy.
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Cheap, and Easy ! I like it !!!
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Only, weld it if its a purpose built drift car. It would be a pita on a street driven car.
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its really not that bad on the street mines been welded for a few months now, you only really notice it in parking lots and its not that bad.
but defiantly if you can afford a nice lsd get one but if your just starting out weld it |
the welded diff might be the cheaper route but over a seemingly short period of time, your tire wear will increase do to your "no slip" diff.
in other words your money will go towards replacing your tires if your car is daily driven. |
Go welded, Ive dailyed one for two years. Also makes it easier to kick out with low power.
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Edit: oh, this thread is about differentials. Nvm.
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if youre worried about tire wear, you probably shouldnt try drifting. Ive driven welded diffs daily for years and never had issues. yeah your tires wear faster. but chances are you try and drift regularly so the wear will be not that noticable. but if you get a 2 way and have it setup well then youll probably wear them out just as fast. Sure i would love to buy a 2way or whatever. but fact is I would rather be driving on a welded diff than not driving because I'm saving up for an lsd.
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Originally Posted by seandizzie
(Post 11274997)
Only, weld it if its a purpose built drift car. It would be a pita on a street driven car.
to start off, i've ran welded, clutch type n/a, clutch type t2, shimmed t2 clutch type, and a old barely working t2 clutch type, 2 way, open. welded is great for a low budget diff build. consistent and predictable. noticed that transitions and straightening out of drifts were not as clean as with an actual lsd unit. tire wear is high. turn-in characteristics suffer. pain to drive in the rain if you're retarded. makes chicks look at you while parallel parking as if you're car's broken. a oem clutch type unit (unshimmed or never taken apart) will work to an extent, but you will feel like you're missing the feeling of it locking under decel. usually used oem lsd's tend to slip a little. shimmed clutch type (swapping plate surfaces around and shimming plates with coke-can, brakleen shims, etc.) increased the initial torque settings making it daily drivable and driftable. felt more complete than a used oem unit. but it wears out quicker and will need to be reshimmed to keep it just as tight. still lacks the lock under decel. 2-way. almost the same as a welded. tire wear is very noticible as with a welded. turn-in characteristics are not harmed much unlike a welded. great for accel-decel. but i just dont like the idea of daily driving on a 2-way... i feel like im just wasting it. im sure alot has been unsaid... but by trying alot of different setups, you can really appreciate the differences between each, and realize that you get what you pay for. i try to build my car based on consistency and predictability... and currently im going from a shimmed clutch type to a welded. would run 2-way but i daily my car way too much |
Originally Posted by AngelsAndBombs
(Post 11275505)
Edit: oh, this thread is about differentials. Nvm.
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Daily'd welded since 2006 til March 2012. Snow, rain, summer, all normal. Bad axles makes it skip in parking lot turns.
Tire wear lol. |
welded is a good setup and works on a budget better than anything else.
if you have the cash i'd definitely suggest getting a real clutch type diff though. you will carry more speed and have more control on the line the car takes. i had a tomei 2 way for a long time and I liked it a lot. but i upgraded to a carbonetics 2 way and it's better IMO. higher locking and more aggressive. it makes the car super fun to drive. |
welded gets the job done, but for a serious car you'll want a two way. any clutch type will work for drifting (os giken, kaaz, carbonetic, tomei, etc)
i've also daily driven with a welded, it's not too bad. just be careful in the rain, there was one time i was driving in the rain after an all-nighter and accidently found myself in a full-blown drift in the middle of the road because i wasnt paying attention going around a banked turn near my house (comfortable i was almost home, went into auto-pilot) and the back end came out. |
Weld the oem T2 lsd. Shit is so damn strong....
Dont tell me it cant be done. Ive done 2 of them. |
Originally Posted by NWHero
(Post 11277202)
i wasnt paying attention going around a banked turn near my house (comfortable i was almost home, went into auto-pilot) and the back end came out.
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Should weld my s4 t2 diff for me paganizondadude. My local shop wont touch welding clutch types
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Well all in all I've convince my self to go ahead and buy a carbonetic metal LSD from THmotorosports. I'm not concern about any tire ware it's expected that drifting will cause tire wAre . Thanks for all the great advice and insights !
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good choice and hell of a sale right not on them!
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Originally Posted by whereiswaldo
(Post 11280456)
Well all in all I've convince my self to go ahead and buy a carbonetic metal LSD from THmotorosports. I'm not concern about any tire ware it's expected that drifting will cause tire wAre . Thanks for all the great advice and insights !
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Originally Posted by Nismonic
(Post 11280681)
Any Reason you didn't go with the carbon for $100 more? The description makes it seem like it has a longer service life.
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That's interested I never knew I can weld my diff not for drifting tho but in general ,
How i do that please any pics or instruction be great . Thanks |
Originally Posted by DR_Knight
(Post 11279552)
Should weld my s4 t2 diff for me paganizondadude. My local shop wont touch welding clutch types
Im 2 states north of you. Shipping would kill. Its super easy. |
i just bout a carbonetic 2 way metal lsd, and i need to know what diff oil fluids to use? anyone w/ any good idea?
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Originally Posted by DR_Knight
(Post 11276403)
to start off, i've ran welded, clutch type n/a, clutch type t2, shimmed t2 clutch type, and a old barely working t2 clutch type, 2 way, open.
welded is great for a low budget diff build. consistent and predictable. noticed that transitions and straightening out of drifts were not as clean as with an actual lsd unit. tire wear is high. turn-in characteristics suffer. pain to drive in the rain if you're retarded. makes chicks look at you while parallel parking as if you're car's broken. a oem clutch type unit (unshimmed or never taken apart) will work to an extent, but you will feel like you're missing the feeling of it locking under decel. usually used oem lsd's tend to slip a little. shimmed clutch type (swapping plate surfaces around and shimming plates with coke-can, brakleen shims, etc.) increased the initial torque settings making it daily drivable and driftable. felt more complete than a used oem unit. but it wears out quicker and will need to be reshimmed to keep it just as tight. still lacks the lock under decel. 2-way. almost the same as a welded. tire wear is very noticible as with a welded. turn-in characteristics are not harmed much unlike a welded. great for accel-decel. but i just dont like the idea of daily driving on a 2-way... i feel like im just wasting it. im sure alot has been unsaid... but by trying alot of different setups, you can really appreciate the differences between each, and realize that you get what you pay for. i try to build my car based on consistency and predictability... and currently im going from a shimmed clutch type to a welded. would run 2-way but i daily my car way too much |
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