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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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ok so my question is how much does it run to do the full 3rotor swap into a fd race chassis? im in the process of buildin a fd for xdc and not sure on the motor yet... was planing on going with an ls2 but i caught wind of a possible rule change in formulaD only allowing factory motor swaps. so now im considering my options. any input would be great. you can pm me with the info if that would be better.

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Well you figure say 3-5K for the 20b by itself then to make the swap plug and play just buy the Hinson Supercars 20b subframe for 1,250 dollars which requires no further modifications. say about 1500-2000 dollars for a full stand alone with wiring loom of your choice. And about 3-4K for a custom turbo setup depending on what parts you buy.

These are some rough numbers and depend on you hunting for the best deal. But I would definately buy the Hinson Supercars subframe to make everything easier and plug and play
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinsFDpoweredFC
Well you figure say 3-5K for the 20b by itself then to make the swap plug and play just buy the Hinson Supercars 20b subframe for 1,250 dollars which requires no further modifications. say about 1500-2000 dollars for a full stand alone with wiring loom of your choice. And about 3-4K for a custom turbo setup depending on what parts you buy.

These are some rough numbers and depend on you hunting for the best deal. But I would definately buy the Hinson Supercars subframe to make everything easier and plug and play


instead of buying the kit, why not make sure you get a late 93? and up 20b and tap the boss ports so you can just drop in the motor using fd motor mounts..

but if you want it done right.. you gotta do custom all the way.. so the weight balance stays close to the 2 rotor.. IE: making the motor sit further towards the fire wall, and lower...


it wont be cheap.. unless you can fab **** your self..


Honestly id say go large street port on a rew motor, good size turbo, water meth inj.,vmount and save your self lots of money compared to the 20b..

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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SlideAlliance
Its better when you blow **** up to have a 2 rotor
that too
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Your right a 2 rotor set up would be cheaper and you could spend your money on upgrades rather than doing a swap right.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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Hinson Supercars 20b sub frame for 1,250 dollars

It will not pass Formula D tech. The rule is you must use stock sub frame.
Look at what Rotary Works did to the stock sub frame to get it to work. Motor sits low, back and the car is a perfect 50/50. we had the car corner balanced at Alex Pfeiffer's shop. Battle Version. If you want to go pro, read the rule book first to save lots of money and time.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fcmax
was planing on going with an ls2 but i caught wind of a possible rule change in formulaD only allowing factory motor swaps.
That possible rule change has been on the table for years. I'm not sure if it will ever actually pass. There are only a few of guys I think it would affect anyway: Dai Yoshihara LS2 (I think) in a 240sx, Tyler Mcquarrie and Darren Mcnamara 6.7 V8 (I believe originally for a ford super duty) in a 350z and Saturn sky, and Charles NG LS6 in an RX7. Most people run factory motors anyway. It's the subframe rule that was earlier mentioned that makes things difficult for most people.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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That possible rule change has been on the table for years. I'm not sure if it will ever actually pass. There are only a few of guys I think it would affect anyway: Dai Yoshihara LS2 (I think) in a 240sx, Tyler Mcquarrie and Darren Mcnamara 6.7 V8 (I believe originally for a ford super duty) in a 350z and Saturn sky, and Charles NG LS6 in an RX7. Most people run factory motors anyway. It's the subframe rule that was earlier mentioned that makes things difficult for most people.
I don't know a whole lot about drifting, but Tanner Foust has the Toyota Nascar engine in his RWD tC.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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I don't know a whole lot about drifting, but Tanner Foust has the Toyota Nascar engine in his RWD tC.
Under the rule, that would be legal. Scion is sub brand of toyota. That would be like having a nissan motor in an infiniti. It's still a factory motor. Just like a 3 rotor in an RX7 or RX8 is.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SlideAlliance
If I remember correctly, it was either tanner or someone else with a tc who's car failed tech because they moved the sub-frame and they redid it all fast and made it "legal"
You are almost correct. The problem was that they had rear suspension parts from a Toyota supra, that needed to be replaced with TC parts (stock or aftermarket) There was a similar problem with the signal auto skyline a couple years ago and they did not pass tech. I believe any of these rules can be gotten around by asking for a special inspection of the part and the inspectors deciding that it doesn't give you an advantage. One car I can think of off the top of my head is the BMI RX8. It doesn't have anything close to a stock front sub-frame, but Formula D allowed it to compete providing BMI moved the engine 6 inches forward. I believe that why they needed to move the radiator to the back.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Thats right I had forgoten about the subframe rule when doing a legal build for competion.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Hit me up,i am Rene the car builder for Jeff jones, i can build 2 rotor and 3 rotors for any type using your stock subframes and custom mounts.I can also dyno tune the engine to have it ready for all out competition.

We build Jeff FD for competition very reliable and safe for all pretty much all weather conditions.
We have had our car in super hot track days well over 100 degrees and no problems,at my shop we have many years of experience in rotaries and we are reputable in making some custom parts and tunes for many types of racing.Hit up jeff jones or me at my email for more information.We can do it all............

We make our own custom engine parts,we have our own billet engine cranks,billet throttle bodies,custom titanium engine parts,Radiators,oil coolers and the list goes on.


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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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Extremely impressive.

Keep up the incredible work and documentation.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 61620B
Hit me up,i am Rene the car builder for Jeff jones, i can build 2 rotor and 3 rotors for any type using your stock subframes and custom mounts.I can also dyno tune the engine to have it ready for all out competition.

We build Jeff FD for competition very reliable and safe for all pretty much all weather conditions.
We have had our car in super hot track days well over 100 degrees and no problems,at my shop we have many years of experience in rotaries and we are reputable in making some custom parts and tunes for many types of racing.Hit up jeff jones or me at my email for more information.We can do it all............

We make our own custom engine parts,we have our own billet engine cranks,billet throttle bodies,custom titanium engine parts,Radiators,oil coolers and the list goes on.


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You have an email sir.
And good luck this weekend I'm looking forward to watching it.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 03:38 AM
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Good build and good driving. Anyone on the forum should be so lucky to have such a car.

I think the tire was on backward in the first video though lol!!!

Hopefully you continue to do well. I'm tired of 240s
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Good build and good driving. Anyone on the forum should be so lucky to have such a car.

I think the tire was on backward in the first video though lol!!!

Hopefully you continue to do well. I'm tired of 240s

If you put the tread backwards on the rears they are less likely to chunk, nobody likes when a fresh set of tires only lasts 2 runs
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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so.. jeff..

there is a local event coming up on the 30th in salt lake.. someone registered is named jeff jones. are you coming back to play with us?
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Old Oct 21, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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I was just noticing in the engine bay pics that you're not running an ABS system. Do you have any info on removal of the ABS and what benefits you see from it out on the track?
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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i just went through this whole thread again. full of win. can you take more pics of the fire extinguisher system you have? i remember seeing it at formula d and how it is all routed to the engine bay and stuff

ps you make me want to chop my front end up.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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i just went through this whole thread again. full of win. can you take more pics of the fire extinguisher system you have? i remember seeing it at formula d and how it is all routed to the engine bay and stuff

ps you make me want to chop my front end up.
damn bumping old threads to the top....
this car was parted out almost a year ago. it's currently for sale.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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I though Rene sold the shell? Maybe not. But yeah Jeff is driving his 1jz S13 this year.
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