Drifting Discuss Drifting and drifting techniques here.

Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 04:20 AM
  #1  
Jeff Jones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: socal
Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid

Formula D 2010 season is just around the corner and I have been given the opportunity to once again rejoin my fellow rotary enthusiasts. Not long ago I decided to leave my always-favored FC3S for a 240 SX to use in competition for Formula D. This was not an ordinary SR-powered S13 but one with a 1JZ transplant. The 2009 season was an exhilarating and a new experience for me but it was time to “Go Big”…


This year has already shows better promise as Rotary Works has offered to build my team, Jeff Jones Racing, a monster drift machine to compete in for the 2010 season. We have chosen the FD3S chassis to build up and make custom to our needs. It wasn’t enough to leave the factory 13BREW engine in it to build on so we opted for the maximum cool factor… a Turbo charged 20B engine that we expect will make over 500+ WHP and deliver when put to challenge. Only days into our build, Rene Franco, engineer and fabricator of Rotary Works and founder of RMS (Rene’s Motorsports), began designing a tube-chassis style front end from scratch nonetheless.

The purpose of this thread is to share my personal experience in building a car capable of competing against factory-backed cars in the world of pro drifting that is Formula D. This is all possible with the help of my sponsors which include Rotary Works, CX Racing, EBC brakes, Clutch Net, Comp Turbo, K&N, to name a few. With all that being said I have decided to share some pictures of progress and will continue to do so until Rd.1 in Long Beach where I hope to meet some of my supporters and fans.



(It always begins with a car on a trailer making its way to a tuner garage)
Name:  DSC00331.jpg
Views: 677
Size:  65.0 KB


(Pile O parts… Toyota transmission for high horsepower, 20B begging for a rebuild and front sub frame waiting to be hacked and customized)
Name:  DSC00344.jpg
Views: 626
Size:  80.0 KB


Getting some ideas for the motor placement.
Name:  DSC00352.jpg
Views: 599
Size:  50.3 KB

Pack it up and call it quits for the night.
Name:  DSC00353.jpg
Views: 585
Size:  50.2 KB

The next day we got hard at work on removing the sound detaining.
With the help of a 20lb block of dry ice it took just one hour to get most of it off.

Name:  DSC00367.jpg
Views: 697
Size:  71.4 KB

Name:  DSC00369.jpg
Views: 590
Size:  70.9 KB

Name:  DSC00370.jpg
Views: 607
Size:  86.1 KB

Now it was time to pull out the gas tank and sub frames.
Name:  DSC00371.jpg
Views: 961
Size:  59.3 KB

Name:  DSC00372.jpg
Views: 605
Size:  83.3 KB

Name:  DSC00373.jpg
Views: 552
Size:  72.2 KB

This is after the tank and rear suspension was removed.
Name:  DSC00378.jpg
Views: 580
Size:  42.6 KB

Name:  DSC00375.jpg
Views: 554
Size:  63.9 KB

So there is a hole lot more to come. I'm still picking up parts from sponsors and collecting materials from Industrial metal supply.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 05:08 AM
  #2  
oilcover's Avatar
ziptied.com hates you
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
From: Himeji, JPN / Orange County, Ca
wow jeff!!!

this is gonna be awesome. sorry i didnt show up to your bday, i got called into work. ugh! good luck with the new car, i'm stoked for you!

- John
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 01:32 PM
  #3  
FDmuri's Avatar
Failcopter..it's here..
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 721
Likes: 1
From: near phoenix....kinda...
very nice, will be good to an FD drift build up/setup . I look forward to seeing more.
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 01:37 PM
  #4  
NoPistons!'s Avatar
Tango Down
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,895
Likes: 3
From: SC/NC
*grabs popcorn*
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 05:05 PM
  #5  
vkjrocker's Avatar
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: Anacrime
you are the man bro! good luck!
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 07:04 PM
  #6  
RXILVER7's Avatar
Grabbin My Wankel
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 722
Likes: 1
From: Yonkers N.Y.
Sick!! I will watch in suspense and proceed to copy
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:06 PM
  #7  
Oun's Avatar
Oun
I can confirm.
Tenured Member 15 Years
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas, NV
*grabs *****
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:24 PM
  #8  
blizzaga's Avatar
When in Rome...
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 288
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco
Sounds awesome Jeff! Whats your schedule gonna be like for Formula D? I'd like to go down and watch.


~Shar
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 08:57 PM
  #9  
yourmom23's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: Montana
thank you for coming back to the rx7 world i swear if i see one more 240 i am going to put a bullit in my head
Reply
Old Feb 26, 2010 | 11:10 PM
  #10  
Rotary-Works.com's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
From: LA
Hello everyone.....I am Rene Franco,I am happy to see that Jeff Jones will be driving our Rotary-Works Rotary Powered Rx7 in 2010.Jeff Jones is a Talented driver,he can drive anything that slides fast and precise without the aid of cars costing a million bucks.

We at Rene's MotorSports/Rotary-Works took on the challenge of building a Formula Drift car in lest than 2 months,a car that was going to be scraped for metal and forgotten.Now in less than 2 weeks,we have put so much work engineering everything from Roll Cage to engine mounts,stich welding,seat mounting ,modified spindles V-mounta nd a complete custom tubular front end.

With our specialty in Rotary engine and custom fabrication we can engineer anything possible with the right tools and parts.We have many years of experience working with race cars in drag racing,Street/strip machines,Road Racing and Drifting.At our Shop we currently have 3 Running 3 Rotor cars from street to drift and adding one more to our shop with this 4th 3Rotor powered FD Rx7.

With Jeff Jones behind the wheel of this Newest 3 Rotor beast,we will sure have a good
year in promoting our Racing Products and Marketing our car Plus Jeff himself for the many Races to come.
Look for us at all the Formula drift Races,Jeff Jones and the Rest of the Crew will welcome the many fans with our cars.



Check out the before and after pictures
Attached Thumbnails Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-dsc01540.jpg   Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-dsc01558.jpg   Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-dsc01705.jpg   Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-dsc01733.jpg   Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-dsc01738.jpg  

Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-dsc01740.jpg  

Last edited by Rotary-Works.com; Feb 26, 2010 at 11:25 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 01:11 AM
  #11  
NoPistons!'s Avatar
Tango Down
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,895
Likes: 3
From: SC/NC
Rene, what is your email? I was trying to find your 20b fc thread specifically to pm you a few inquiries.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 02:27 AM
  #12  
Battle Cat's Avatar
Space cadet
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (78)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 10,308
Likes: 3
From: LOS ANGELES
looking good rene... i gotta stop by some time.. its been awhilee
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 04:00 AM
  #13  
Jeff Jones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: socal
So let the spot welding begin. This is Rene in his predator helmet getting down.
Name:  DSC00379.jpg
Views: 510
Size:  52.6 KB
Name:  DSC00380.jpg
Views: 528
Size:  49.9 KB

Name:  DSC00381.jpg
Views: 483
Size:  42.7 KB

Now its time to play with some steering angle.
Name:  DSC00383.jpg
Views: 573
Size:  48.7 KB

This is a jig I mad to keep the Ackerman the same after we cut and weld.
Name:  DSC00382.jpg
Views: 536
Size:  56.6 KB

We got the new sub frame in from one of Rene’s old drag cars.
The old one was possibly bent so better start out fresh.
Name:  DSC00384.jpg
Views: 523
Size:  62.0 KB

This is Ascension wire brushing the paint for more spot welds.
He has an Ls1 fc that Kelvin used in D1gp Anaheim.
Name:  DSC00385.jpg
Views: 513
Size:  75.9 KB

His car in d1
Name:  impp_0905_83_z2009_d1_grand_prix_an.jpg
Views: 617
Size:  51.1 KB

Now back to the angle. Clean Chop Weld
Name:  DSC00389.jpg
Views: 504
Size:  84.4 KB

Name:  DSC00390.jpg
Views: 592
Size:  64.6 KB

Name:  DSC00391.jpg
Views: 520
Size:  69.7 KB

We cut at 1 1/2 inch
Name:  DSC00392.jpg
Views: 523
Size:  76.9 KB
….
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 09:40 AM
  #14  
ilia's Avatar
Chicago
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 569
Likes: 3
From: Chicago
Sick! 20B will be so rad sounding.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:18 AM
  #15  
David Hayes's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,510
Likes: 188
From: FL
Very nice. Question - you mention a Toyota tranny will be used. What are the details on this? I know someday I'll have to replace the stock tranny in my 20B buildup and thought the best option was a T56.

You have me curious!
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 12:27 PM
  #16  
Rotary-Works.com's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
From: LA
We at our shop RMS/Rotary-Works are gonna prototype adapter plates for Supra tranny to Rotary bellhousing,and maybe a few others such as T-56 to mazda bell housing and possible Mustang T5 to mazda bell.We are also considering of being a distributor for full race transmissions Dog Box ,sequential shifter,differentials in the near future.Check us out at the vendor section......

Check out the super angle from the knuckles we moded up....
Attached Thumbnails Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-dsc01532.jpg  

Last edited by Rotary-Works.com; Feb 27, 2010 at 12:34 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 12:41 PM
  #17  
R3AL.CH1CK3N's Avatar
Jesse
Veteran: Marine Corp
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, OH
Sick!
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 01:04 PM
  #18  
David Hayes's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,510
Likes: 188
From: FL
Originally Posted by Rotary-Works.com
We at our shop RMS/Rotary-Works are gonna prototype adapter plates for Supra tranny to Rotary bellhousing,and maybe a few others such as T-56 to mazda bell housing and possible Mustang T5 to mazda bell.We are also considering of being a distributor for full race transmissions Dog Box ,sequential shifter,differentials in the near future.Check us out at the vendor section......

Check out the super angle from the knuckles we moded up....
Nice. Is there any one tranny you like over the other? I'll need something for street driving so it needs to be quiet and have smooth perfrormance. I also think a 6 speed is the way to go.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 02:21 PM
  #19  
Rotary-Works.com's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
From: LA
Here is our other Car in Action the FC Turbo 3 Rotor powered Rx7......we took it out a few times last year and horsepower is not the issue,we have a Real Radical port on the Engine from past experiences of drag racing(Pretty much a first of its kind on a drift 3 Rotor Engine ,Semi Peripheral/monster streetport,9 INTAKE PORTS!!).Pretty much a drag Engine on a drift chassis......we had the power turned down running only 8-9 psi boost,still making 500 RWHP and keeping the drive train from breaking at the track.We manage to blow 1 clutch out and Diff mount that had been torn off the chassis last year.

These problems have been fixed we turned up the boost but we have been busy at the shop waiting to go to track soon again.Hopefully we will hava a better tranny on both cars to handle the horsepower soon ,but i the mean time we will use a stock Turbo or Supra tranny on both cars.We better stock up on these trannies LOL.
Attached Thumbnails Jeff Jones FD3S Formula-D car buid-rene-irwindale-picture-rx7-1.jpg  

Last edited by Rotary-Works.com; Feb 27, 2010 at 02:23 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 04:56 PM
  #20  
RXILVER7's Avatar
Grabbin My Wankel
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 722
Likes: 1
From: Yonkers N.Y.
Thats some serious angle. What Size wheel and Offset are you running with that?
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 09:52 PM
  #21  
Jeff Jones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: socal
Originally Posted by RXILVER7
Thats some serious angle. What Size wheel and Offset are you running with that?
The wheel is a 18X91/2, off set is a 30 I think. With these rims we will need spacers or we might notch the lower control arm because it hits the back at full lock. Also the front being cut out helps.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 10:23 PM
  #22  
Jeff Jones's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: socal
You can see this quick jig helps keep every thing lined up.
Name:  DSC00393.jpg
Views: 514
Size:  55.1 KB

Rotary-Works is primarily a fabrication shop. With a lot of request to cut and weld spindles they will be making a few solid jigs soon. I will be testing them out on my personal cars.

This is one set up I will be testing. Others will be just shortening with out the step
Name:  DSC00394.jpg
Views: 510
Size:  44.2 KB

Rene using the mig welder.
Name:  DSC00395.jpg
Views: 572
Size:  61.3 KB

Fat bead, ready for install.
Name:  DSC00396.jpg
Views: 621
Size:  87.0 KB

Other side.
Name:  DSC00397.jpg
Views: 570
Size:  63.9 KB

Stupid angle. It’s hard to see but Rene also machines rack spacers.
Name:  DSC00398.jpg
Views: 896
Size:  68.9 KB

Name:  DSC00399.jpg
Views: 743
Size:  64.5 KB

Name:  DSC00400.jpg
Views: 586
Size:  62.1 KB

Name:  DSC00401.jpg
Views: 518
Size:  54.4 KB

Put some rims on for the pic.
Name:  DSC00403.jpg
Views: 543
Size:  55.3 KB

Name:  DSC00404.jpg
Views: 521
Size:  54.8 KB

Ok still a hole lot more to do.
Reply
Old Feb 27, 2010 | 11:26 PM
  #23  
huntingcorn's Avatar
Full Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
From: PBG, FL
damn, thats some badass angle. i need to shorten mine even more! lol good luck mayn. moarrr pics!
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2010 | 09:41 PM
  #24  
NoPistons!'s Avatar
Tango Down
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,895
Likes: 3
From: SC/NC
Holy ****.

Who is? Jeff Joooooooones.
Reply
Old Feb 28, 2010 | 09:54 PM
  #25  
Fortune_Seven's Avatar
Snowboarding Whistler!
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,285
Likes: 0
From: Whistler, BC
Very cool! will be following your progress!
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:29 AM.