I'm sure this idea has been tossed around but I think it'd be nice to have sub-forums for WTB and FS in the marketplace type forums. That way, for example, if you do a search for a part you can just search FS posts, instead of getting WTB threads mixed in.

Same can be the opposite for sellers, they can search WTB and actively sell at people looking for their crap instead of waiting for people to reply, PM.

Granted the important point is the first.

And that is that I have the power to T-bag you. Fangoriously.

 

Just asking to make sure I understand ALL the rules: Is there any lint on people responding to WTB ads?

 

It's easy to find parts currently through the search functions.


Example:

Searching for an S5 TPS.

Search under 2nd Generation Parts for Sale/Wanted. Keywords would be "FOR SALE: Series 5 TPS".


If you are looking to sell an item, just switch up the search keywords.

Hope this helps you all out some.

 

See thats kind of the thing. Some people put in the subject "FS" or "FOR SALE" a lot don't put anything just say "air pump" with no indication if they're looking to buy or sell.

Just seems like something that could be done easily and would provide some nice organization.

 

Well, that goes along with people making clear/readable AND searchable thread titles. You can only lead the horse to the water, you can't make it drink it. Having sub sections just for For Sale and Want to Buy threads just because sellers can't make legible Thread titles and posts is severe overkill.



You can also search through both threads and posts within threads for better results.

 

I agree seperate FS WTB sections will be easier

 

It's not something that is going to happen.

We cannot get members to even put FS/WTB/WTT in their titles now.
We also cannot get members to put their asking prices or list of parts in their threads when they are parting out a car. Even though we have stickies at the top of all the main classifieds for easy access so that they may review the rules.

We already spend a considerable amount of time just having to pm members about these things that they should already know and use.

Separation of the classifieds would only lead to more members posting incorrectly in another section and create even more issues.

We will be going to classifieds awaiting moderation soon that will force members to do their threads correctly the 1st time.

 

I don't see why you'd think the sections would get mixed up? Nobody from the 1st or 2nd gen sections post in the 3rd gen FS sections or vice versa. It's RARE for someone to post a car in the parts section, though it does happen every once in a while. It would just basically make searching for parts easier.

 

Yes it does happen daily. Parts threads in the car section, car threads in the parts section. I know this because I move them every single day of the week. It would also lead to people putting For sale items in the WTB section. If it was a perfect world then it would work. However it is not and it would be just another section that would have to be patrolled.

Doc.

 

I just went through the first 12 pages of the 3rd and 2nd gen FS sections and all the way back through February in the 1st gen FS section, there aren't any threads that have been moved. Well, there was one in the 2nd gen section that had been moved there, I'm assuming from the 2nd Gen Specific section, but still, I don't think your assessment of having to move threads every day of the week is very accurate.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. I put a 24 hour redirect on those threads so after 24 hours you nor anyone else would see that a thread is moved. You also don't see the duplicate threads that are posted in the wrong section and the member reposts in the correct forum. You don't see them because only moderators can see those things. They are not viewable for regular members. Next time you want to question my assessment of these things I'll be happy to flood your pm box with all the ones that I do and the other moderators do along with all the pm's that are sent to the members about this. Believe me your box will be full before the end of the week.

Doc.

 

Why are you getting so defensive, I'm not allowed to question you? I said I only saw one entire post that had been moved, coincidentally that was over 24 hours old, but if there's some sort of moderator voodoo, how should I know? But feel free to "flood my pm box" if it makes you feel better.

Btw, doesn't the original post stay in the section that it originated in with a "Moved" tag in front of the title?

 

Sorry to get defensive. It's just that members don't know what goes on with mod duties and how much time we actually spend on these duties.

As far as the other question. After the alloted redirect time has expired there is no longer any evidence of the thread being in the section that it was moved from.

 

Hey if they can't follow the rules just lock there thread.. thats easy, then when they PM you and say WTF you can say, read the rules and pay attention... or better yet post a response tell them how they messed up and how to fix it, lock it and be done with it... it will fade away in the pages over time... or set a time limit to delete it, sure that is possible...

you may think of it as one more area to police, but if you think about it it won't be, its not like more people will be posting all of the sudden because there is a new section, there will simply be less threads in the old section and they will start to flow into the new section, then you don't have to worry if they put WTB or FS in the thread title, so there is one problem solved - one less thing you have to look for.

not to sound like a dick but its not rocket science to say that it is a good idea.. if you shop for something it will be MUCH easier to find if others are posting for the same item.. for instance tons of people want say a strut tower brace, you search and find 10 topics, but they are all wtb, now if you could just search the FS section then the server would simply report, nothing found, so in turn it would probably put less drag on your search engine as well
and on another note, if I am selling the same strut tower bar and i want to search the WTB's before I waste server space with a new thread I can just search the WTB section for the part I have laying in my garage, let them know i have it.. done

think about it from a user friendly perspective instead of a employee one, we are not going to sympathize for someone that is doing there job, that is not a valid argument to say that it won't be done, sounds more like a cop out... I am sure there are plenty of people that would step up and be mods if you put a thread out searching for some...

 

I agree with rx7doc on this one. I come on the forum everyday and I usually see what he is talking about, that is before he fixes it.

Mike you bring up a couple good points. But even if they did seperate the WTB and FS threads I still know people will post in FS threads in the WTB section and vise vera; all this still leads me to have to check both sections incase I miss a FS/WTB thread in the wrong section. Will it work better than now? maybe, but just not for me, I guess I'm too paranoid or something.

Bringing a new moderater is a manpower solution but you would still need to solve the above problems.

I would rather have rx7doc keep up the good work he does than have this relatively small problem get in the way with his more important duties ie. resolving issues with bad sellers and cleaning up the 1st gen technical/non-technical/archive sections.

 

How about two separate sections under the parts for sale sections by generations. One section for parts for sale and one section for parts to buy. There are so many threads that don't have a label as FS or WTB it would just make it easier to find parts that are for sale and find people who need parts to buy.

 

We have looked into this but the fact of the matter is that it already states in the main faq rules this-
- Try to make your buy/sell/trade post subject look something like this:
> state if it is FS/FT/WTB (ForSale/ForTrade/WantToBuy)
> describe the product
> state the price (With currency) (if it's a FS ad)
> state the location
> state if you are willing to ship
> remember a picture is worth a thousand words
> use the specific section, put them where it belongs(3rd gen in 3rd gen section and so forth).

Unfortunately some members either choose not to follow these guidelines or don't read the rules. :-)

 

If someone can't clearly indicate whether they are selling or buying you probably shouldn't do business with them in the first place. I can only imagine how specific they might be about the actual part or shipping information.

I could add post icons for FS/WTB/etc but that would undermine the use of the state icons.

I agree the traditional search methods are the best. If you really have that much locating or selling an item you can just ask a moderator for a hand, they know these sections pretty well.