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Old 03-03-08, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
It was very clear. I was thinking it was so clear that only a idiot... well I won't say it... instead I will put it as clear as it can be for you:

No linking to another forum in signatures.

The exceptions to that are forums co-owed with this one, or for vendors that are current and paid up that are advertising their forum, or regional forums such as local car clubs and the like.

Is that not clear enough?
well, now that i've been considered an idiot (either directly or indirectly) by 2 members of the mod/admin group for asking for clarification on an issue, my question has finally been answer, though it is no where listed in the current rules and regulations. thank you very much.

also, i'm assuming that when i originally agreed to the terms and conditions of this site, i automatically agreed to accepting any changes to those terms and conditions while an active member of this site?

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sarcasm doesn't play well on the internet. I cannot tell tone with typed text. I make sure you all know sarcasm by using TEAL as was established a long time ago.

I don't know where we're heading but i'm more weary now than I was before. I miss this place and what it used to be.
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Originally Posted by lt1_rx7
also, i'm assuming that when i originally agreed to the terms and conditions of this site, i automatically agreed to accepting any changes to those terms and conditions while an active member of this site?
Best question asked in weeks. Please, I'd also like to know if the terms of agreement have changed, will change and if it's forced/phased in on us.

I've been too busy to read the terms of agreement but I am going to read up on intellectual property and who "owns" the tech posts.
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Originally Posted by lt1_rx7
well, now that i've been considered an idiot by 2 members of the mod/admin group for asking for clarification on an issue (either directly or indirectly), my question has finally been answer, though it is no where listed in the current rules and regulations. thank you very much.

also, i'm assuming that when i originally agreed to the terms and conditions of this site, i automatically agreed to accepting any changes to those terms and conditions while an active member of this site?
Sounds like it. At least they aren't charging membership fees... Wait, did I just suggest that. IB is going to love me
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Old 03-03-08, 02:58 PM
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Let me explain this to you. A link is a reference or a connecting structure. Meaning that is is associated with it. Taking the www or http out of it does not change anything. It is still referencing or a connection to that site which means it is not allowed.

Yes, We will have to amend the signature rule apparently to reflect this also.
Instead of spending so much time on this issue. Why not spend the time learning about what you can do to your car or perhaps helping another diagnose their car. That is what this Club is really about!




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well, now that i've been considered an idiot (either directly or indirectly) by 2 members of the mod/admin group for asking for clarification on an issue, my question has finally been answer, though it is no where listed in the current rules and regulations. thank you very much.

also, i'm assuming that when i originally agreed to the terms and conditions of this site, i automatically agreed to accepting any changes to those terms and conditions while an active member of this site?
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Old 03-03-08, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7doctor
Instead of spending so much time on this issue. Why not spend the time learning about what you can do to your car or perhaps helping another diagnose their car. That is what this Club is really about!
why don't you spend less time editting signatures to remove referances to other forums? the other forums i list might provide other information for others to diagnose their cars and help them learn. ie: the information and opinions of piston swaps is very limited here.

and with this thread, i've been trying to understand the club to which i am a member.
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Old 03-03-08, 03:15 PM
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Well, lets stick to the issue at hand. You have asked about signatures and what is acceptable and what is not. You have been given everything that is and is not.

I have told you where the references are allowed and what ones are not allowed in a reference at all.

As far as your piston swap reference, tell the guys that have taken the time to post in our club here-https://www.rx7club.com/forumdisplay.php?f=118
That the information is limited.



Originally Posted by lt1_rx7
why don't you spend less time editting signatures to remove referances to other forums? the other forums i list might provide other information for others to diagnose their cars and help them learn. ie: the information and opinions of piston swaps is very limited here.

and with this thread, i've been trying to understand the club to which i am a member.
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Old 03-03-08, 04:53 PM
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So basically, this is a NEW rule instituted yesterday that I did not agree upon when I signed up for this forum? Am I wrong in that statement?
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Old 03-03-08, 05:38 PM
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compared to the information offered at v8rx7forum, the information on this site is limited. i have done research in that area of the forum plenty of times.

as for the rules and regulations regarding signatures, i did not violate the rules with regards to my signature. the two sites i listed are not vendors and mentioning them in a post is allowed. so i do not know why they were removed. a few of the admin have mentioned why they were removed, but, they were not in violation of any rules.
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Old 03-03-08, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by turboefini88
So basically, this is a NEW rule instituted yesterday that I did not agree upon when I signed up for this forum? Am I wrong in that statement?
Actually as I understand the law, when the new rules go in place, by your posting anything here on this website, in any form, it will be taken as an acceptance of those new rules.
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Old 03-03-08, 07:59 PM
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In other words, IB and the **** mods say.....
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Old 03-03-08, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 85rx-7gsl-se
In other words, IB and the **** mods say.....
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I think that was me who said that.

Competing website could be defined somewhat cynically, and surprisingly accurately as one that was formed by banned rx7club members out of spite and the desire for self-gratification.
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Old 03-03-08, 11:30 PM
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Was Phil banned too?
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Old 03-03-08, 11:40 PM
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No, Phil wasn't banned. And Landers/RR was only banned for a week.

If you guys would just sit tight, there are going to be some rules clarifications announced shortly that should be well received.
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Old 03-03-08, 11:49 PM
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I didn't think he was banned. Just the comment about the "other" forum being formed by banned RX7club members seemed kinda odd since the 3 who started it weren't banned and only two of the members I know of being banned recently(including one tonight )
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Old 03-03-08, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 85rx-7gsl-se
I didn't think he was banned. Just the comment about the "other" forum being formed by banned RX7club members seemed kinda odd since the 3 who started it weren't banned and only two of the members I know of being banned recently(including one tonight )
Phil wasn't banned, but he did start the other forum out of spite ... because he expected favoritism, and got a chip on his shoulder when he didn't receive it. My post from earlier today:

Another thing about Herblenny ... another guy with a chip on his shoulder, the one who started the other forum.

He's mad at me personally because I wouldn't ban Roddimus Prime from mazda3club.com. Roddimus has been my main guy there for years, he's pretty much run the site in my absense ... and done a fine job. But something happened personally between the two, Herblenny thought that Roddimus made a remark at a bar slandering Asians, and thus I have to ban Roddimus? Give me a break. But in fact Herblenny DEMANDED that I ban Roddimus, he said if I didn't that he'd leave the site - this was over a year ago.

Sorry Phil, but that **** is between the two of you. I don't ban people because of what they do in their personal life, and you putting me in that situation - as I told you at the time - is ridiculous and unfair. Apparently you're still bitter about it all.

But I'm sure you've tried to pass off your motivation as noble and pure, that you're doing what's best for the community. When in fact it's all because I wouldn't ban an Admin who called you names in a bar.
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... and just so you know Phil, I still have the ENTIRE copy of our AIM chat that day where you demanded over and over that I ban Roddimus, and all your threats of what would happen if I didn't. I'm reading it right now actually, it's quite humorous. You'd be quite embarassed if I posted it up here.
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I have read both your's and Phil side of the story. From what I get, Roddimus made racist comments towards Phil, Phil felt that such a person shouldn't have such positions of authority on your sites and should be banned, you said tough luck (in part because Roddimus has been a helpful friend to you) and Phil started his site. It was just the whole being made up by rogue banned members that threw me for a loop. The only banned members over there really has been Kevin....Oh BTW, since you never answered it in the "this other forum is being mean to me thread", why was fikren's post removed and why was he issued a temp ban?
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Originally Posted by 85rx-7gsl-se
I have read both your's and Phil side of the story. From what I get, Roddimus made racist comments towards Phil, Phil felt that such a person shouldn't have such positions of authority on your sites and should be banned, you said tough luck (in part because Roddimus has been a helpful friend to you) and Phil started his site. It was just the whole being made up by rogue banned members that threw me for a loop. The only banned members over there really has been Kevin.
That pretty much sums it up, I'm an asshat because I didn't ban an Admin who'd helped me for years because of a bar comment that I had no first-hand knowledge of.

I think it's pretty safe to say that I've never met a Mazda enthusiast who is actually racist against Asians

Oh BTW, since you never answered it in the "this other forum is being mean to me thread", why was fikren's post removed and why was he issued a temp ban?
Pretty simple, #1 rule in the FAQ user conduct area

1. Attacks on moderators will not be tolerated, and may result in an immediate permanent ban. Moderators sometimes have to make difficult judgment calls, but remember we *are* human (well at least most of us are!) Hopefully we'll make decisions that are considered "correct" by the majority of the community. Do not post complaints, criticisms, or moderation questions on the forum. These posts will be deleted and no explanation will be given. If you have a concern about a particular moderator, send a private message to a Super Moderator or Administrator. And if you have constructive suggestions on improvements that can be made to the forum or its moderation, please post them in the Suggestions area.
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I think the issue is that your taking a public forum and turning it into a private market. It kind of limits members to getting the best deals, the best prices, the best info, the best parts because only the big enough businesses can afford to advertise. That's not really fair considering this club is NOT like its sister sites (which deal with NEW cars that have a huge aftermarket following) considering most of us mod our cars to replace OLD/STOCK parts that are impossible to find; if not for the classifieds on this forum and people going through the trouble of buying their neighbours FC that's been sitting outside for 5 years just to strip it and get people the parts they need. They're doing the work, they deserve to make SOME money - considering most of these parts are sold at rock bottom prices anyways. This is exactly the kind of **** that goes on at SF where SP rules with an iron fist.

This whole thing isn't about RR, I've never done business with him. It's not about classicauto, I've never met him. It's not about mods deleting posts and editing sigs and temp banning ppl in a flurry of lies from both sides. Its about trying to make money off the people that help keep this community growing. That basic principle of profit undermines the integrity of this forum. If everytime I pm'd aaroncake about a question, or ReTed and he responsed with "well if you send me $200 a year I can answer any questions you have, until than, **** off before I put you on my block list" I would FEEL unwanted too.

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I think the issue is that your taking a public forum and turning it into a private market. It kind of limits members to getting the best deals, the best prices, the best info, the best parts because only the big enough businesses can afford to advertise. That's not really fair considering this club is NOT like its sister sites (which deal with NEW cars that have a huge aftermarket following) considering most of us mod our cars to replace OLD/STOCK parts that are impossible to find; if not for the classifieds on this forum and people going through the trouble of buying their neighbours FC that's been sitting outside for 5 years just to strip it and get people the parts they need. They're doing the work, they deserve to make SOME money - considering most of these parts are sold at rock bottom prices anyways. This is exactly the kind of **** that goes on at SF where SP rules with an iron fist.

This whole thing isn't about RR, I've never done business with him. It's not about classicauto, I've never met him. It's not about mods deleting posts and editing sigs and temp banning ppl in a flurry of lies from both sides. Its about trying to make money off the people that help keep this community growing. That basic principle of profit undermines the integrity of this forum. If everytime I pm'd aaroncake about a question, or ReTed and he responsed with "well if you send me $200 a year I can answer any questions you have, until than, **** off before I put you on my block list" I would FEEL unwanted too.
Nobody knows better than I do that the rotary community is nothing but little guys, and that it's critical to price advertising here so that it's accessable to the little guys. I'm proud to say it always has been when I was the one setting rates.

Now before IB ever bought this site I made it VERY clear to them that they HAD to keep advertising cheap enough for the small shops. They agreed to make that happen, and honestly I've been a little disappointed with the quotes they've been sending out. I've been talking with them about the issue, and they hear what I'm saying. I can't tell you exactly what will happen, but I'm the only person left who IS fighting for the little guy.
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Well, lets stick to the issue at hand. You have asked about signatures and what is acceptable and what is not. You have been given everything that is and is not.

I have told you where the references are allowed and what ones are not allowed in a reference at all.

As far as your piston swap reference, tell the guys that have taken the time to post in our club here-https://www.rx7club.com/forumdisplay.php?f=118
That the information is limited.
So post here or we won't let our members have anything to do with you, that's the kind of attitude we're adopting now? Why not allow links to another forum that sells nothing but only provides information? And to answer a question I'm sure you'll come up with, such as why can't they post here instead, it would probably have something to do with the moderators of the forum. How LS1 swappers are generally looked down upon and personal/childish/idiotic remarks such as the "Traders WTB all non rotary rx7s" threads go unmoderated. Even in this thread, where the information was not made clear, veiled insults are passed out by those who are supposed to be neutral on this board, yet are protected from any like comments made in return. That might be a big part of why references to other RX-7 boards, piston and non-piston alike, are starting to pop up everywhere.
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then go to those other forums, why stay here and and bitch about lack info on a swap? why you people come to a ROTARY CAR SITE and expect to talk about piston engines is beyond me.
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this is an RX-7 forum...rotary powered and piston powered...this is not strickly a rotary rx7 forum. under the sub-forum for swaps, it reminds people of that. if this site is here to help the growth of the rx7 community, then why is listing the v8rx7forum in my signature such a problem? if people can't find the information here on this site and notice my signature, they can check it out there. but as it is, they have to find a post where someone mentions the other forum.
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