what happened to the whole n/a section that was supposed to happen? i still would love to see that. i love the reliability of an n/a and the fact that its all motor, and i keep getting stuff confused. it'll be a turbo mod and ill only find out after reading through the post/thread.
i know alot of guys here that would be very happy to see this happen

 

I will definitly second that, i plan on keeping my motor N/A as long as i can, untill it either blows up (god forbid!), or i cant scrounge another horse out of it!

Zak

 

Amen!!! 191 rwhp...and twice as reliable as a TII. We have been overlooked and stepped on, way to much But I.... third.... that

 

i always check back and its gone, why dont we have one, there seems to be a good deal of interest in that field. im personally trying to see how much i can possibally get out of an n/a on stock ports with a custom manifols and standalone ect. then on to ported, but it seems like everytims you post a question about beefy n/a's you get 5 billion replies about turboing it.
just wondering why not

 

so... possible?

 

hmmmm...191rwhp!


yes i think it would clarify whats what around this joint.

 

its a pretty good idea IMO

 

come on lets get some momentum behind this!

 

It's not going to work, like last time. NA guys won't spend the money and alot don't bother with time.

It's sad but true.

 

but for the die hard guys and theres quite a few of us out there

 

vote for the Beefy NA section, i could very well use it...

 

Is it about the money?....I think becuase this is an rx7 forum it wouldnt hurt to have an NA section. That way there would be less confusion between mod's for the car's. people could go there for info on stuff like injector size,weight reduction and power adder's without having to worry about it being for a turboII.

I would hope its not about how much a perticular forum's members generate money in that forum.

Meh i would support it ide be in there all the time!

 

Useless.

Any so called "beefy NA" topics are well suited to the generation specific and rotary performance sections that they can already be found in

Keep adding specific sub forums for every little thing and you wind up having a main page that looks like ****, and getting far less input than you would by posting said threads in less specific but higher trafic sections where people who may have valuable input will have a chance to find them without specificaly seeking them out.

Topics need to be generalized to an extent to be seen by the masses.

If a topic is so popular that it starts to eclipse the general sections I can see the need for it's own section (like single turbo FD's and V8 swaps for example) But the amount of people building PP NA's and the like on this site is next to none.

Before long we'll have a section for RX-7's fitted with Bosch wiper blades. or specifically for blue FC's with sony CD players owned by people under six feet tall with a beard and a lazy eye.

 

You guys really can't tell the difference between a thread for a T2 and an NA?



So you get all exited when you see a thread about an intercooler or a blow off valve thinking it might be for your NA?

LMFAO!

 

Dude there is only two forms of an rx-7..turbo and non turbo...its that simple. If you think the forums are that complicated then im sorry but most of your post was useless.

I could see a sub forum in the second gen section for NA be a good thing! not only would dividing the types be good it would give all the NA guys some foundation to start from instead of all the NA threads being buried under turbo topic's. We all know that most of the threads are about turbo 7's..but most people own NA.
Further more it would not be complicating the site but rather cleaning it up and keeping it more orderly and more defined.

 

Yet, you're the one who can't tell the difference between the two.


This idea is proposed because you and some others lives in fear of reading an entire thread only to find out it's for a T2 and you've wasted your time

I just don't understand how you can't tell the difference.

Dividing yourselves from half the FC community only reduces your chance finding the info you're looking for.

Besides, Jager has a point. 90% of your N/A discussion is about cold air intakes and corksport cat backs. Which would add up to a "beefy NA" section without alot of beef.

Not to mention the huge percentage of the so called NA majority who either wish to turbo their cars in the future, or buy a T2 as soon as they can.

Anyway, more power to you if you guys get your own section. I personally, just don't see the need.

--Alex

 

yes it is true most threads you see on n/as are about cai and corksport, but most t2 threads you see are about bov and frontmounts.
the fact is all the good n/a info topics get thrown to the bottom 4 pages back by stupid little threads about nothing. are v8 swaps really more popular than squeezing some power out of your n/a? come on! we have 8 different sub forums for standalones for a reason. stuff only pertains to some kinds. just like with this.
i cannot tell you how often i see a thread about n/a power get crushed by a few turbos guys saying n/a's are pointless for power. with out fail if you post about n/as youll get about half of your replys saying "go turbo" I wonder how much great n/a info has been pushed aside by turbo post and we dont even know about them at this point.
i think there is a much bigger base for this than you think. the second gen was blessed with 2 types of engines, and i truly feel like most people on this forum see only 1 of those. once an n/a specific section is made, more people will come out of the woodwork and i think it will become a largly popular thing.
bottom line is, there is enough support, enough info, enough interest, so there is really no reason not to.
lets do it!

 

The first assumption you ignorantly made was that i was unable to define a NA and a turbo!...I never said i couldnt. i stated that newb's would and do frequently.

And for the rest of your post about how 90% of NA mods are cold air and corksport catbacks is all people ask about! Dude honestly how could you state that?.....look at my sig..thats not even all the mod's im going to do! theres plenty more out there just waiting ..

Hmm ill stomp any stock to lightly modded tII any day! I would never give my reliability and instant power for more weight and statis quo..people freak when a NA just mopped the floor with there turbo's..basically what i mean is im not one of those people that is going to turbo first chance...ohh no.

I respect your opinion and i think we could use a NA section..i mean come on we have a wheel and tire section.

 

+1 Another valid clear point!

 

Agreed, we allready have a single turbo forum, It would be nice to have a place for all the NA rotary owners to compare notes.

 

I still stand by what I say. Most NA owners are gay and don't give two *****. If we did start a forum like that, we would only get certain questions over and over again. Questions that are or have been already answered in the 2nd generation technical forum.

There really isn't a point IMHO.

 

Your sig is the perfect example of my point.

Spare tire removal and racing plug wires? WTF?

I'm suprised you didn't list your tire pressure and fuel level to make that list look longer.

Your car is basically stock. You've given it a tune up and removed enough stuff to make it loud and unpleasant to drive.

Do you even have a header? Or is that one of the mods you plan to have ground breaking discussions about in the new NA section?

You have ~ 130rwhp and ~200lbs of weight reduction if you're lucky. I can't imagine you stomping stock S5 Na's by much. Let alone any T2.

Do we really need a section devoted to "moding" the carpet and air conditioning off our cars?

Or tuneing the spare tire out of the back?

Everything newbs need to know about moding their Na can be found in the FAQ section or with a search.



I respect your opinion too, just don't share it.

Good luck with the campaign. I've said my piece.

--Alex

You grossly misused the phrase "status quo" by the way.

 

Yeah i understand but why bag the NA?...I mean everything youve said so far has been nothing but reasons why NA suck and all the comments youve made!.. i take it as a joke you know..but **** man.


why dont the people who ovbiously dislike the NA for some reason just lay off stop acting scared...

The auto -5sp swap could be in the NA section and free up space..
We could have the wiring diagnostic there since its different.
porting how too and reaction's could be there.
we could have our own 1/4 mile times and dyno numbers section.
even weight reduction #s for NA.

And how much do you want to bet that people who autocross and roadrace will start posting there sooner or later we will have our own group of pro's who post meaningfull thing's just like the turbo guy's. Honestly its going to happen sooner or later well have a NA section even if the whole turbo world gets sand in there vagina.
And one more thing this site is huge and growing everytime i log on. when i joined there was way less people and topic's active.. i honestly think it hurts the rx7 community to disband the NA like some do here it has it's own place..and more and more people are getting 7's and most are NA ..Why no NA forum?

I love this site i visit everyday sinced i joined..I respect everyone here And i understand were you guy's are coming from i respect that! Ill alway's defend my NA becuase im a rotary owner and im **** about my car.

LONG LIVE NA'S

NA FORUM!! LETS DO IT!

 

NA section would be cool, I would join in on it. Seeing as I am very into N/a at the moment. So, plus one vote for me!

 

i have yet to see any real negitives to this, all im seeing are a few people complaining about forum member counts, and generally not likeing n/as enough to give us the chance. whats there to lose with this section?