87Adam

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Hey, I just upgraded the turbo on my FC and had a Mega Squirt put in. I'm looking for suggestions on where to take it to get dyno tuned in southern ontario. Preferably in the toronto-brampton area but I will drive further for quality.

Thanks for any suggestions or coments

PS any shops not recommended??

Double_J

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Dragon works is the only one I know of.

Hybrid G

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Yeah we should have some sort of dyno and or tuning shops in the gta for rotaries.

I have a new haltech installed and in need of simlar service

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paul_3rdgen

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Go to Magnus motorsports.

2Fierce

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Would you guys be interested in doing a dyno day??

Hybrid G

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i would be.........depending on when and where


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AndyD

second recommendation for dragonwerks; Jo is a great guy and really knows his stuff.

http://www.dragonwerks.ca/

87Adam

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Has anyone used FP Motorsports in Brampton?

IAN

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+1

Buggy

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I'd possibly be interested in a dyno day depending on cost. I'd like to get my weber tweaked a little bit better than it is. See what kind of power my handy work is putting down.

Trots*88TII-AE*

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Yeah, me and Mikal were talking about setting up a club dyno day at Dyna Motorsports. Maybe we could persuade some of the more inclined tuners in the are to join us...

2Fierce

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dragonwerks, pur, dyna, whatever people are most comfortable with. Maybe we could set up a poll for what weekend and what location works best for people??

edit: all 3 locations have different dyno's as far as I know, pur has a dyno dynamics (reads lowest/truest numbers), dyna use dynapacks (reads higher, bolts onto hubs), and dragonwerks uses a chassis dyno. So keep that in mind.

Dates: I vote July 9/10th or 16/17th as I think Friday may be better for the shops, but if there is enough interest I'm sure we can book a saturday to ourselves and maybe do something after? Cruise? BBQ? Whatever!

thewird

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I'll come to watch. Dyno days are always interesting ^_^

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JDK

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I would have some interest as well but it would depend on which dyno is being used.

2Fierce

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marco, u wont put ur car on the dyno? I'm SO curious to see what that slow ricerocket makes

thewird

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^ If its ready and tuned by then. You still need to break in the engine after the car is ready :P

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Bwek

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there is also Tag and another one in oakville on speers i cant remember the name

2Fierce

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neetronics or 4star??

2Fierce

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Only reason I mention those 3 shops that I did is because all are used to having rotaries around

Also, Marco at magnus motorsports.

2Fierce

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https://www.rx7club.com/canadian-forum-42/dyno-day-meet-910301/

done did it.

23Racer

Neetronics on Speers has 2 dynos in the shop. A 4 wheel and a 2 wheel. Their rates are pretty good.

The only information I can add to this is that a lot of tuners have little to no experience with the Megasquirt setup and a wide variety of setups. When I was trying to get my setup tuned, I contacted a number of shops and if they had any experience with rotaries, they had none with the Megasquirt setup and couldn't help.

So my advice before setting up a day at a dyno shop is to ask if the shops "Tuner" has experience with the tuning methodology of the various programable ECU's everybody attending is using. The capability of the tuner and the repeatability of the dyno are far more important than the type of dyno.

In my experience, no dyno gives the real HP numbers, they only provide a representation of the vehicles rwhp on that day, on that pull. Any tuning or hard part effects have to be repeated on that same dyno under the same conditions or the results aren't a valid representation of the change. In fact a lot of dyno tunes for max power are not the best way to set the car up for real life, so be careful.

In my car, we had to learn how to tune the Megasquirt setup ourselves after a number of well regarded "tuners" couldn't help as they had no clue as to how to run the programs or deal with my quirky setup. We finally got the beast running great, but it still needs a little tweaking to get all the settings just right.

Good luck and have a great day.

Eric

thewird

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^ Agreed 100%. That's why I opted for street tuning and then the owner of the car can take it on a dyno after when its done if they want. I found that after tuning on the dyno, there is always tweaks you have to do on the street. Also you can't fully tune a car on the dyno or you'll be there all day. There are things that just have to be done on the street (or the track) in real driving conditions in my opinion.

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Lynch

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^ So true...

DynoDragon

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Just a clarification: All the shops mentioned have what would be classified as a chassis dyno. (as opposed to an engine dyno) We have a Mustang brand, loading dyno. A loading dyno can be considered a road simulation device and has a range of testing modes. For instance, we have the back straight at Mosport programmed into our dyno and some of our racing customer us it to determine max rpm and gearing for the track.

Regarding street tuning vs dyno tuning: We often get customers who have been street tuning their car over months (sometimes years) and have not been successful. Usually, in a few hours, we can complete the tune and the customer leaves wondering why they didn't come in sooner.

Often the issue is mechanical and it shows up quickly on the dyno. Being able to see and hear an engine at full load and high rpm is a clear advantage over street tuning. A dyno shop also has additional diagnostic equipment and expertise available to get the car sorted out.

For competitors, a dyno session is a great way to ensure your car is ready for the track. Often we never complete a clean run, but the session is a success because customer goes away with a list of small repairs/mods that they need to do before hitting the track.

If you have never seen a tuning session on a dyno, give us a call and stop by the shop.

In terms of a dyno day - we did a "Pizza and Dyno Demo" for a Miata club the other night and that worked very well. It allows a lot more time to explain the process and answer questions. The normal "dyno day" format usually means the cars are run through as quickly as possible to accomodate everyone, so no individual calibration is possible. The dyno results are not as good as would be acheived with a dedicated session.

2Fierce

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Thanks for the clarification Jo/Marco. see other thread for dates!!!! Let's do this guys!