Calgary : Gary Dyno Pics
08-17-05, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Alak
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Gary's setup lived up to my expectations. Given a choice between say max's car and garys, I'd take garys. I stand by the supercharger, no matter how many times the turbo laps me on the track. Its different and its fasinating. Its a step aside from the same old turbo this, turbo that.
Gary's setup lived up to my expectations. Given a choice between say max's car and garys, I'd take garys. I stand by the supercharger, no matter how many times the turbo laps me on the track. Its different and its fasinating. Its a step aside from the same old turbo this, turbo that.
Where is the dyno sheet BTW, I really like to see the low-end torque quantified.
08-17-05, 12:40 AM
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I dont have a dyno sheet. In fact I dont know which one was printed.
As for living up to my expectations, it did. The power is all there, it just needs access. Fueling issues, boost issues. Was your car running 100% as soon as you threw it together? I highly doubt that anyone's was. But the power is there. The sheets dont lie.
As for living up to my expectations, it did. The power is all there, it just needs access. Fueling issues, boost issues. Was your car running 100% as soon as you threw it together? I highly doubt that anyone's was. But the power is there. The sheets dont lie.
08-17-05, 01:11 AM
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Yah right. And my truck makes 600 hp - I just need to "access" it. I might also need to "access" a 400 shot of nitrous..... You "expected" 200 rwhp and it didn't produce. By definition it did "not" live up to your expectations. The power is "not" there - and the best part is that you proved it! You are talking about getting a 30% increase from the numbers it did produce by the way. It must be running pretty shitty right now if you believe a little "tweaking" will give you those kind of gains. So are you saying that Gary's car - after he spent a ton of cash on it - is running shitty? The sheets don't lie but I wonder where on them it says this supercharged engine will make 200 rwhp.
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08-17-05, 10:26 AM
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That's kind of my issue with the whole thing. I get really super sick and tired of people quoting numbers that DON'T exsist. I jumped on Adam for a similar infraction awhile back. I don't care what someone "thinks" the car can do. I know the arguement though "So and so's car with a similar setup did xxxrwhp so mine will too" In this case the example is Code Blue's car, Adam liked to use some car from Greece or something. Whatever, come back when it actually breaks 200rwhp and post up an actual dyno sheet, untill then this is nonsense. I still can't believe there's this much discussion over a car with 150rwhp, lets get serious people, 150, there's not much to get excited about here.
08-17-05, 12:00 PM
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Your absolutely right Graham. I agree 100%. The car as it stood on the dyno did 158WHP. Nuff said. Thats 30 more HP than last time it was on the dyno before that. So I'll post some more stuff when it hits 200HP at the wheels, which by the looks of it wont be this season. I think this dragged on because I said it would do 200 at the wheels. The dyno clearly showed otherwise. I still say it will do 200 at the wheels, just not ATM.
09-09-05, 09:59 PM
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Will dyno again before winter hopefully. Issues with the the charger heating up as suggested by Max have been aided by a header heatshield and increasing the speed on the taurus fan. This helped, Max will assist with a water/meth injection setup in the winter which will surely make another jump as well. Theory about not enough carb proven a bust (playing mythbusters here), I put on a bigger carb and got no gain up top. Exhaust theory proven correct, replaced the RB muffler and 1 3/4 exhaust from the presilencer back with 2 1/2" (Max's maximum recommendation) followed by another presilencer and a dual tip magnflow (Max suggested Borla, but not in the budget). This made a big diff up top (loud though) with more boost holding in and widening the powerband. I read up on the weiand charger (almost identical) and found the information Camden neglects to advertise. They promote their charger as offering more low end throttle response and midrange torque, they also clearly state that increasing boost (what I did) will increase low end torque at the sacrifice of upper end horsepower (my issue). They actually state that heat becomes an issue and that the charger will draw boost back up thus reducing boost at high rpm. Sooooo, the test now on the dyno is 3 runs with 3 different pulleys to find the "sweet spot" satisfying the widest powerband. I still enjoy the camden and like the throttle response and torque it produces.
09-09-05, 10:23 PM
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Quote from Weiand: For example, if your vehicle typically will be driven at speeds
under 4,500 rpm and will never, or infrequently, see high
engine speeds, you may want to select one of Weiand’s
smaller blowers. A smaller blower can be driven at a higher
speed, which will produce a substantial amount of boost, particularly
at lower engine speeds. However, this high blower
speed will be less effective at higher engine speeds due to the
overheating of the inlet air as discussed earlier.
Conversely, if you choose a larger blower for this same application,
in order to achieve the same boost level, the larger
blower will have to be turned at a relatively slow speed. This
combination will not produce the low end power that the
faster turning small blower will, but will significantly outperform
the small blower at high engine speeds. However, if you
never drive your vehicle in the higher speed ranges, you may
be giving up impressive improvements in the lower speed
ranges. You may choose to do this anyway because you want
the look of the larger blower and are willing to give up some
bottom end performance.
under 4,500 rpm and will never, or infrequently, see high
engine speeds, you may want to select one of Weiand’s
smaller blowers. A smaller blower can be driven at a higher
speed, which will produce a substantial amount of boost, particularly
at lower engine speeds. However, this high blower
speed will be less effective at higher engine speeds due to the
overheating of the inlet air as discussed earlier.
Conversely, if you choose a larger blower for this same application,
in order to achieve the same boost level, the larger
blower will have to be turned at a relatively slow speed. This
combination will not produce the low end power that the
faster turning small blower will, but will significantly outperform
the small blower at high engine speeds. However, if you
never drive your vehicle in the higher speed ranges, you may
be giving up impressive improvements in the lower speed
ranges. You may choose to do this anyway because you want
the look of the larger blower and are willing to give up some
bottom end performance.
09-10-05, 09:30 AM
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Gary..
Very nice pic that you sent me. Id like to see more when you have some time.
Recently I had my car tuned " The Microtech". Before the tune I had crazy fuel issues, my car would shut down after car would heat up.
Anyways, after the tune my car has no more fuel issues, and car is staying cooler than my turbo'ed car.
Yes these camdens can get over 200hp. I did 211, and now I'm almost sure I have at least 240 after my tune. Not bad for the low end tourque that it produces. I'm going to try to get a Dyno before the summers end. Let me know how the water injection works, as that might be my next mod and or changing my exhaust sys.
Very nice pic that you sent me. Id like to see more when you have some time.
Recently I had my car tuned " The Microtech". Before the tune I had crazy fuel issues, my car would shut down after car would heat up.
Anyways, after the tune my car has no more fuel issues, and car is staying cooler than my turbo'ed car.
Yes these camdens can get over 200hp. I did 211, and now I'm almost sure I have at least 240 after my tune. Not bad for the low end tourque that it produces. I'm going to try to get a Dyno before the summers end. Let me know how the water injection works, as that might be my next mod and or changing my exhaust sys.
09-10-05, 01:42 PM
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dyno pic attached, I quit climbing at 5800 rpm as compared to codeblues dyno graph. Prior to 5600 we were pretty equal, although my pull started at 3400 rpm. Note the nice flat torque curve the s/c produces. I expect with the new exhaust and testing pulleys I'll end up much better than the first test. Before installing the carb & header heat shields and new exhaust it would seems to just rev past 6500 where now it clearly continues to pull past 7000 regardless of which pulley I am using.
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