mikerbike

Oh hell yeah! And at only 4x the price, TOTALLY WORTH IT! Just another thought.

REAmemiya_fan

Take money out of the equation. When it comes to racing, if you have to ask, you can't afford it. Really simple concept.

mikerbike

I didn't ask how much 4 rotors cost. That information is available on the internet.

Equation - Money = Dreaming
Driving 120hp car > Dreaming about a 500hp car.

/Opinion

FC3S Murray

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Lol. You nailed it

REAmemiya_fan

Alright even though I agree, the fact is racing is all about advancement in technology as much as it is about the entertainment. Yes, it costs stupid amounts of money, but the fact still is, Mazda created an engine that was 2.6L, made over 700 naturally aspirated horsepower to the wheels, ran reliably for 24 hours straight, and is still in use today for demos. Mazda also had the most wins for around 8-10 years in any road racing around the world with a rotary engine, all naturally aspirated. Whether it be IMSA GTU, GTO, racing at Bathurst, Rallying, Le Mans. If they would have kept the FD in a racing situation, then I have no doubt they would have kicked *** too. Lets even look at the Rolex series, this was the last year for the three rotor RX-8's, and they kicked *** almost every year they've been in the series.

I don't care what you think your car is, unless it is dedicated to a class in a series, it is not a race car. You have a street car for the road. And don't bring up drifting, because that is something completely different. That FD in the video I posted is an example of what I'm talking about. And while we're on the subject, it doesn't always take that kind of money to build that car, we have many people such as John Huijben to thank for that. He doesn't have all the money that proper race teams have, and he's built all his stuff to be just as quality at I bet a fraction of the cost. That is why it annoys me to no end when people say cost vs power bullshit. Put in the work, and you'll get the results.

So to the OP, don't let anyone discourage you. to anyone who says you can't do something, I have a friend who bases his whole build off of saying **** you to the people who say you can't do something.

clokker

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Oh pshaw, even Jim Glickenhaus has a budget.
For the majority of racers, racing is primarily about money- how to get it and what to spend it on.

"If you have to ask, you can't afford it" is a cliche that doesn't work in this context.
I can assure you that more race efforts have failed because the principle(s) didn't ask ahead of time and were overwhelmed by the hidden costs of racing.

On a more prosaic level, racers constantly balance the desire for performance upgrades against requirements like tires. Is the killer motor really a good idea if you can't afford good rubber?

Money makes the world go round and smart money management is just as important to the race world as it is to Wall St.

turbotim

I am pretty sure the corvette swap is more expensive than my swap but I could be wrong, and yes I already know my weight distribution is f!@#ed, but I built it to be a sleeper and a straight line car. All I really have to do to it is put a good set of tires on it and maybe a better transmission and this car will run in the 11's on those stock usdm turbos.

missilerex

You just bolt good tires to it, you're trans will never be the weak Point.... it will be the diff and axles you grenade every time you attempt a launch...

And ls isn't more or less expensive of a swap, either way if you're not Building the mounts or doing wiring. Yourself. Then break out the pocket book and bend over

Have you looked into the price of a single snail swap on a jz? Costs what it will to get just the motor in the car lmao

turbotim

The trans is notchy and slow to shift, that is a common problem with r154, I have tried several different oils, the oil that seems to work the best is that redline mt 90, but its still a little bit notchy, if I could speed up the shifting I could knock a fair bit of the time. also I did break the factory diff, its in my video, lol, I swapped it out for a ford 8.8 with a 3:27 gear ratio, the 2j likes them taller gears thats for sure.



I agree if your paying for labor, but I am not, I am also not going to be buying one of those 5k turbo kits either, probly going to piece it together go with a comp turbo and a log manifold, I already have a fuel rail and injectors, the fuel pump is already upgraded. I am probly going to cheap out on tuning and use an apexi safc with upgraded map sensor. the car already has a water meth injection kit and when the new turbo set up goes on I will up size the meth jet.



bottom line is I am going to do it on a tight a buget as possible.
but for now I am going to leave the stock usdm turbos on it and try n improve the e/t with tires n maybe a different tranny.

j9fd3s

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the 787B is an impressive car, its like a truck. it hasn't been restored, the exterior is circa 1991, the engine was pulled apart measured for wear and put back together, and then they just recently rebuilt the engine again, and sent it back out to go vintage racing, without the intake restrictor!

it was neat in 2011 we got to see the 787 vs the silk cut Jaguars on the race track...

diabolical1

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jeez ... cut the man some slack. respect his thread. it's a good project that can turn out to be a great project. the 2JZ is a formidable engine. period. the rotary vs. piston argument is pointless, as is the LSx vs. whatever else. this is the engine HE chose for his car and it sounds like it makes him happy. if we may all be so lucky ....

the only issues i see here are that the thread is in the wrong section and that it doesn't take the typical format of a "build thread" since it's just a slide show and short video.

diabolical1

iTrader: (3)

so far the understatement of the year.

turbotim

did another video of my car, havent done any thing further with this car yet, as my supra took most of my attention this last summer.

I was thinking of Frankensteining it a little farther with a pair of 14b turbos off of a dsm. then my creation will be as complete as can be for a Frankenstein car.

Ionix

awesome