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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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don't think you'd want to print all the pages of this thread!
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Just waiting on the call from Cam to come pick up my car! Had a slight delay as Cam felt the 18X9 inch front wheels were too wide when combined with the Tien coli overs. He's ordered 8.5 as replacements. As Pettit is a dealer for Forgeline, this shouldn't take too long.

Can't wait!
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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David,

There are people using 10" wide wheels in the front without a problem. Are you sure they said they want to use a narrower wheel instead of a different offset? A heavier engine that sits further forward and rear wheels that are significantly larger than the fronts does not sound like a good combination for neutral handling.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Cam wants to change both the wheel size and the offest. He states he's not happy with the rims now that he added the Tien coilovers. Not being a great mechanic guy, I'm going with what he wants.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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David,

I know this is prob pocket change for you considering the overall swap, but are you paying for both the rims you have on now, AND the new ones? Cuz I'd hope he's only charging you for the ones you leave w/...even if he had to special order both sets...
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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Why don`t you just put on 19" and call it a day.
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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19's are ghey. imo 17's fit the car much better.
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 1point3liter
19's are ghey. imo 17's fit the car much better.
If you're talking looks-wise, I think 18s look the best...
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by David Hayes
thanks for the advice. this is what Pettit has told me also. it has been my fantasy to be able to bring the car back to Pettit a few days later for the final tuning but, in reality, it won't happen anyway. my wife does a lot of community theatre acting so she can't go with me on a trip right now.

so, the engine will be broken in the way you recommend. i'll just make sure to use my car for all of those trips to the supermarket for milk!
By the time you are ready to head back to Pettit for the final tuning, let me know buddy. I should be squared away with the new ported 99 motor and 99 twins (less vacuum lines for the twins, that was the main benefit I saw so I chose to go with it). I'll follow you there and drive you back to town if you have to drop her off.
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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I'm only paying for the set that stays on the car. It was Pettit that recommded the 9 inchers and then decided to swap them to 8.5s. As for 19 inch wheels, I'm an old guy and those are just too big for me. 17s are fine but I prefer the 18s.

RedR1, thanks for the offer. I'll let you know when I'm going to be headed back down. Would love to check out your setup. Who did you buy the motor and turbos from?
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Old Nov 6, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Haven't paid for them yet, those should be mine in December when I come back from JGTC in California. Shane, from Rotary Works near Middleburgh. I stopped by his shop, he's an awesome guy. I stopped by to simply ask him about the prices (he can get 28B longblocks, 99 spec long blocks, and even has a single rotor go-cart!), and we ended up shooting the breeze about rotaries for hours. He agree's that my FD is a one of a kind, as he has not seen any in Jacksonville modded like mine, especially with my JDM style


Once I get the RE-Amemiya undersweep back on my car, i'm gunna head back there (don't you hate these unseen potholes due to the better jax plan?!?!?) for more breeze shooting.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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Didn't even know there was a rotary shop in Middleburg. Don't those good 'ol boys on the westside only drive pickup trucks?!!
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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LMAO, yea. That, and they drop 20B's into Jeeps

I didn't even know there was a shop out their either until I stumbled onto a few people who have done business with him.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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OMG dont let them change the wheels pick up ur car!! i will tell them i will do it have them send the wheels to me. You are very patient my car was at KD for 3 weeks and i was already freaking. 90 days i dont think i could handle it. Knowing im getting a 20b is a whole different story
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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I think they've already corrected the problem. Talked with Tyler at Pettit this morning and he's pretty sure they got it taken care of although he's in a bit of a fog because he just got back from SEMA. Lucky bastard. He's going to call me back later with the details.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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David,

I would go with 9's or even 9.5's for your fronts..

I'm wanting to go with 18x9.5 SSR comps for my fronts..
I would talk to howard coleman (also his SN).

I've met him at Rotary Revolution and he seems to be very knowledgeable in racing and suspension.. I'm sure he knows a lot about wheels too.

Definitely get few more expert advice before going with 8.5's I have 8.5x17 on my other FD and its ok..
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Redr1,
are you serious about dropping a 20b into a jeep??

cause I have a 1956 Chevy truck that needs an engine, and I can't hel pbut think a 3 or 4 rotor.

If your buddies have really done this, I'd love to hear about it.

Mabye even encourage me a bit, to start fabbing up some mounts and such

Dig the idea though
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mordachai
Redr1,
are you serious about dropping a 20b into a jeep??

cause I have a 1956 Chevy truck that needs an engine, and I can't hel pbut think a 3 or 4 rotor.

If your buddies have really done this, I'd love to hear about it.

Mabye even encourage me a bit, to start fabbing up some mounts and such

Dig the idea though
a 4 rotor in a 1956 chevy pickup?
That'd be the most retardedly expensive pickup truck ever.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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a 4 rotor in a 1956 chevy pickup?
That'd be the most retardedly expensive pickup truck ever.
just a retarded idea in general imo. Why not build a nice big block for it.
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mordachai
Redr1,
are you serious about dropping a 20b into a jeep??

cause I have a 1956 Chevy truck that needs an engine, and I can't hel pbut think a 3 or 4 rotor.

If your buddies have really done this, I'd love to hear about it.

Mabye even encourage me a bit, to start fabbing up some mounts and such

Dig the idea though
Mordachai, not me buddy, it is a rotary tuner here in town that is dropping the 20B into his Jeep. He was contemplating either his jeep or his boat, and I was pushing him to drop it into his Jeep as I have never heard of anyone doing that before. I'll keep you posted!
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Old Nov 9, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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Yep Weird indeed

Originally Posted by plan9
a 4 rotor in a 1956 chevy pickup?
That'd be the most retardedly expensive pickup truck ever.
Don't want to hijack this thread, but

Yeah it'd be pricey for sure, but when you're thinking about doing a classic up right, most guys easily spend $100,000++++ on a resto rod, and they'll mabye be lucky to get $75,000 out of it(if they can ever part with them)

But a big block. C'mon how common is that?
You can easily get 500+ HP outta a big block.
and you can easily spend $10,000+ building that block.
I figure if I can do something exotic It'd be great, and I think that the $ involved I can build a nice rotary, mabye around 300 Hp or so.
Besides, It'd really **** off all the Chevy guys- the ford guys too probably

also the weight ratio would be much better from the rotary than from the unweildly big block, and 300 Hp in an old truck sure does make it go!!!

RedR1
Funny your buddy was thinking boat or jeep, I've seen a 17' Mastercraft with a 12a in it. Sounded GREAT!
and yeah, I've NEVER heard of somebody doing something like this(rotarty in a truck or jeep-other than the RePU)- I'm probably wrong. It's probably been done, I've just never seen a Rotary go into anything other than a compact or sports car!
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:58 AM
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don't forget about the lack of torque.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 03:29 AM
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Those old trucks really aren't that heavy, but they are front heavy. A lightweight engine package would definitely help weight transfer and the traction situation!!!

I have experience with a '56 Chevy with a 283 and a '56 Ford with a 352 (FE series). Both had relatively low rear end gears (standard at the time) and the Ford had an automatic, but they both ran good and were fun--we'd race them all the time for kicks.

As for the big block--You can easily make 500hp with just about any big block and do it for less than about $2k. If you're careful, and wise about your mods, you just don't need to do that much to get to that level. If you start with a good base, you can use many stock parts. You just don't need much exotica at that power level (contrary to what magazines, TV shows and vendors would like you to believe.) Been there done that.

And I even seen a Chevy truck once with a small block Dodge in it.

A 300hp rotor would be alot of fun in an old truck.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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David I'm glad you have a custom avatar because it makes it easier to skip over all these off topic posts (hint hint).
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Hey David, what way did you go w/ the tranny? Forgive me ahead of time if you already mentioned it, but I don't recall reading anything about that...

I've heard you can stick w/ the stock FD tranny, but supposedly it'll take it's toll on it sooner or later, or you can rebuild it to handle that power somehow? or go w/ a HKS tranny? (Dunno if that's the same as the dogbox tranny ppl refer to). So which route did you take? And did Cam give you any options to choose from, or was it pretty much that there's only one way to go?

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