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Old 03-12-14, 09:24 AM
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My most sincere condolences regarding your father Logan. I can't imagine how you must be feeling.

I hope you get through this with a more renewed vigor, building in his memory.
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Can't wait to see the graph past 10K with the intakes in slide-mode. Major props for this, it is an epic undertaking. Any father, let alone one who was very active in the rotary community would be extremely proud of this accomplishment. Now get out there and enjoy the fruits of your labour for once!

Do you have a gut feeling about how much might be left on the table after fine-tuning the intake and exhaust?
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Originally Posted by t-von
It's great you guys keep pushing the envelope. When this is complete, what do you think the next project will be? You know it's really hard for us creative fabricators/engineering type people to just sit back on are thoughts.
i'm on the other side of the spectrum , i'd love to see this car in action . in some real racing category . Do you guys plan to race this ? and if so what class .. i know its unique and that makes the car priceless .. but when isee that car it just makes me Curious of what its capable of ..
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As everyone has already said, many condolences too you and your family on the passing of your dad.
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Originally Posted by t-von
It's great you guys keep pushing the envelope. When this is complete, what do you think the next project will be? You know it's really hard for us creative fabricators/engineering type people to just sit back on are thoughts.
At least for the next year strictly racing. I really want to hone the ol' driving skills and focus on chassis/ aero setup.

The next step in the 4-rotor progression I would like to cermet coat all the housings, and pick up some more torque. At that point the engine would have every part of tech the 787b had, plus lighter weight and the higher rpm capacity. Granted I don't think the stationary gear design will every be quite as strong, but we will see how it does!



Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1
Hey Logan,

Your web site lists several build and pricing options for 4 rotor engines. Are you planning to do something similar for 3 rotor engines? Just curious. Something similar to Gordon Monson's solution might be appealing to me (360 to 400 RWHP).

Thx
We will be adding that to the site yes, its a good idea!

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My most sincere condolences regarding your father Logan. I can't imagine how you must be feeling.

I hope you get through this with a more renewed vigor, building in his memory.
It has pumped some new vigor into my system!


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Can't wait to see the graph past 10K with the intakes in slide-mode. Major props for this, it is an epic undertaking. Any father, let alone one who was very active in the rotary community would be extremely proud of this accomplishment. Now get out there and enjoy the fruits of your labour for once!

Do you have a gut feeling about how much might be left on the table after fine-tuning the intake and exhaust?
Thanks a bunch Trots. He definitely was proud, even though he never really told me, he was good about telling everyone he knew. I heard many stories at the funeral from people I had never met before. It was nice.

Gut feeling is 680ish rwhp is in there maybe even 700rwhp. But might be some time before I visit the real dyno tuning process to do it.

Originally Posted by Tem120
i'm on the other side of the spectrum , i'd love to see this car in action . in some real racing category . Do you guys plan to race this ? and if so what class .. i know its unique and that makes the car priceless .. but when isee that car it just makes me Curious of what its capable of ..
Ironically my goal has always been to just race! But time and time again setbacks happen, tradegy happens, life happens, money runs out, time runs out etc. Or I decide to go to the "next level" for advertisement reasons. This year, is ALL racing. It will be competing in NASA super unlimited mostly. Might de-tune once in a while to race in ST1. Some time trial or time attack if possible, and might even do the texas mile just to see what happens
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Originally Posted by GtoRx7.

Ironically my goal has always been to just race! But time and time again setbacks happen, tradegy happens, life happens, money runs out, time runs out etc. Or I decide to go to the "next level" for advertisement reasons. This year, is ALL racing. It will be competing in NASA super unlimited mostly. Might de-tune once in a while to race in ST1. Some time trial or time attack if possible, and might even do the texas mile just to see what happens

We need to start a collection fund and get your 4 rotor to the Nurbergring to obliterate some lap records. Or even better, let Too Gear do a story on the world's most powerfull NA 4 rotor.
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My most sincerest condolence for your loss Logan. The parents that say the least directly to their own kids are the ones that are the most proud of them. Your accomplishment is certainly worthy of that pride! I hope you continue with much success!

Andrew
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Originally Posted by t-von
We need to start a collection fund and get your 4 rotor to the Nurbergring to obliterate some lap records. Or even better, let Too Gear do a story on the world's most powerfull NA 4 rotor.
I've been wanting to contact them just to see what they would say. Need to find the right people to talk to, that would truly be an honor! Let the funding begin!!

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My most sincerest condolence for your loss Logan. The parents that say the least directly to their own kids are the ones that are the most proud of them. Your accomplishment is certainly worthy of that pride! I hope you continue with much success!

Andrew
Thank you very much Andrew. Words of wisdom for sure.
Old 03-17-14, 04:58 AM
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Excellent result and interesting intake setup. Can you post the dyno plot showing the tcf number?
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Originally Posted by GtoRx7.


Ironically my goal has always been to just race! But time and time again setbacks happen, tradegy happens, life happens, money runs out, time runs out etc. Or I decide to go to the "next level" for advertisement reasons. This year, is ALL racing. It will be competing in NASA super unlimited mostly. Might de-tune once in a while to race in ST1. Some time trial or time attack if possible, and might even do the texas mile just to see what happens
Then I hope you keep us updated . on your events and progress also . i personally would love to see some vids of the races . in car cams allowed? lol
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Just out of curiousity, did you need to change the timing between the different intake lengths to optimize the curve?
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Originally Posted by PDF
Excellent result and interesting intake setup. Can you post the dyno plot showing the tcf number?
Thank you. Sure, I'll upload that tomorrow maybe.


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Then I hope you keep us updated . on your events and progress also . i personally would love to see some vids of the races . in car cams allowed? lol
Yes we will have a on-board video system with overlay of speed/ g-force/ etc. Have to do it right!


Originally Posted by Trots*88TII-AE*
Just out of curiousity, did you need to change the timing between the different intake lengths to optimize the curve?
Haven't played with timing at all yet. Its very conservative at the moment. With the fuel going so lean there was no point. The intake length does change the AFR quite a bit at the different torque peaks though. As you could expect.
Old 03-19-14, 01:38 PM
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Unbelievable, you guys are amazing you're builds, your fab work, truly inspiring! Keep it up!
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Actually miss him a lot, because he was acerbic, but knew what the heck he was talking about. Unlike today, when we have lot of people who are equally nasty, but know very little.
I'll take that as a compliment.
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^ Tell me about it.
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What can you tell us about the runner-lenghts at shortest and longest?
You use a slide-throttle right?

Really impressive and both function and art in the building.
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Very awesome work! Please post some vids of the car in action when racing!

For the conversion of PWM (I go that the PWM is 5v pr 12v and that the voltage remains stable (as in does not change with battery voltage)) to Analog you can just use 2 resistors and a capacitor circuit, its really easy and stable if you have decent tolerance capacitor and resistor, then just use an opamp as buffer on the output, this way the input inpedance of the servo has no influence.
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Some updates

So it's been years (crazy right?) Since I've posted anything, but here is a little update. Car has been great, going very fast around the race track and nibbling at the track record for my class. Had to build a restrictor intake to fit into the rules. Only allowed 430rwhp so currently the engine makes 420rwhp basically everywhere. From 6k to over 9k. Pretty fun.

Here is the latest video, showing what it is like to drive it. With a bunch footage "What it's like driving and owning a 4 rotor mazda Rx7"
On youtube

Can't figure out the link, not sure if it works

https://youtu.be/FUYDpQMrPYc

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Logan! Glad all is well. How about some videos?
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Originally Posted by GtoRx7.

Can't figure out the link, not sure if it works

https://youtu.be/FUYDpQMrPYc
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Sounds awesome in the video, top work .
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The latest video was epic. Enjoyed it, especially the camera angles. And no fear driving the ***** off of it on the streets.
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Originally Posted by Brent Dalton
Brent! My man, thanks for that. While you are here, what tracks did you run your Rx7 at? What lap times did you put down at them? Hoping to branch out this summer and try a few new places. Be nice to know a good pace.
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Originally Posted by Monsterbox
The latest video was epic. Enjoyed it, especially the camera angles. And no fear driving the ***** off of it on the streets.
Thanks! Aside from the flyby I drove sooooo slow. I just wanted to tear up those roads, but better judgement prevailed. I'm keeping tabs on your latest updates, It is a cool build. Looking forward to the dyno video


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