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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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I would be wary about buying an item from this seller.

I bought a radiator 3 weeks ago from this and he supposedly sent it out but never supplied a tracking number which I asked for when I sent payment. I never received the radiator, NOR a tracking number so after this long, I can only assume that the radiator was never sent out.

Kevin

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5/15-CarbonR1 (me)-
Did you receive my payment for the radiator? Please let me know when you ship it out with a tracking number.

Thanks,
Kevin

5/15-Viviorunitia88-
it will be going out tommorrow

5/23-CarbonR1-
Can you give me the tracking number please? I want to make sure that it wasn't delivered to my work and just left somewhere.

Thanks,
Kevin

5/23-Viviorunitia88-
i will look for it when i get home

5/27-CarbonR1-
I need the tracking number for the radiator. What method of shipping did you use?

5/28-CarbonR1-
Please find the tracking number tonight. The longer I wait the higher the chance that I won't find it at my office if it was indeed shipped here.

5/28-Viviorunitia88-
usps
im still looking for it

5/29-CarbonR1-
Look, I'm a patient guy, but I asked you to give me a tracking number right when I sent you payment. I will have to give you negative feedback if you don't have it because I still don't have the radiator, and as far as I know, you never sent it. You have tonight to find it.

Kevin

5/30-Viviorunitia88-
i have been doing a lot of things lately and i just got online i will find your tracking number by saturday no latest or somehow i will get it threw the post office i understand you been a patient guy and in my paypal said nothing about tracking and thats what i go off of il try to find it or i will get it from the post office i know its been taking a long time just i have been buzy with work and ect you know how it is i just havent been home for the past few days i understand if you want to leave negitive feedback and thats fine as i said rough week with job and finish schooling and me trying to take my mind off my two year relationship that just ended with my gf because she cheated on me so i am a little inerbrated right now so i apoligize if my grammer and english is really bad right now but i think you get the point im on it tommorrow youll have a reply at the lastest of saturday

5/31-Viviorunitia88-
unfortuently i can not find the tracking number. you never asked for one before shipment anyways. unfortuently you can go ahead and leave poor feedback. Unfortuently i did excatly what i said i was going to do i sold you the radiator and sent it to you. if you have that big of problems with shipping to your work then mabye you should change where you ship ur packages. Hope things work out for you.
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5/31-CarbonR1-
Just for reference, I DID ask for a tracking number. See below. I've never lost a package at work, so I shouldn't change that I get packages shipped there. Unfortunately, I can only assume that you never sent out the radiator. I will be submitting a paypal complaint against you and will leave negative feedback on the forum. I will retract the paypal claim once my payment is refunded because I asked for the tracking number right after I sent payment.

**negative feedback left after not receiving a tracking number NOR a radiator and payment lost.**
Old Jun 1, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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tracking number was lost in process he had it shipped to a business on which he cannnot account for all the time. As well as in the paypal instructions on which i base all shipping off of there wasent a word of a tracking number. All i ask is wait till the end of next week if its not there by then we will talk some more. Its a great deal of distance away from me as well as it was sent parcel post so it is gonna shipped slow.
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by viviorunitia88
tracking number was lost in process he had it shipped to a business on which he cannnot account for all the time. As well as in the paypal instructions on which i base all shipping off of there wasent a word of a tracking number. All i ask is wait till the end of next week if its not there by then we will talk some more. Its a great deal of distance away from me as well as it was sent parcel post so it is gonna shipped slow.
Read up viviorunitia88

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-parts-99/general-note-buyers-sellers-regarding-shipping-methods-times-727928/

Shouldnt take 3 to 4 weeks to get that package. And you should ALWAYS get a tracking # for anything you buy/sell online. If that really is your PM's he posted....then i dont think you should be selling on this forum. You seem to have too many excuses.

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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Tracking numbers should be standard for any type of good sold and shipped. In fact, it is a forum rule to provide a tracking number.

"- Sellers MUST USE a traceable method of shipment and remember to write the buyer's address on it. This usually only costs a few bucks extra. - If you get ripped off, it is recommended that you retain an attorney, contact your local law enforcement agencies, and contact the FBI Internet Fraud Complaint Center here http://www.ic3.gov/ . "

READ here-
https://www.rx7club.com/faq.php?faq=..._section_rules
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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alrite yes it is my bad that i did not send tracking number for the product since i have lost it. and your wrong the product got shipped out on may 15th i do believe after i look over my credit card statements. As well as i just got off the phone usps at longest its going to take 19 business days since it was a balloned product which slows processing time down. So if the product does not get delievered by the end of the week he will be issued his refund. Wow and excuses i do have other business to acare of becides the forum as well as i couldent find it. It wasent excuses it was me telling him when i was looking for the reciept. unfortuently it could not be found but that is the resloution that i have acome to and carbonr1 doesnt care to reply back to my pms reguarding the sisituation. So right now i really dont see how this is going to get resloved easily unless i get word back from carbonr1 that he will notify me on june 7th of 2008 if the package has not arrived yet. On which turn if it hasent i will reinstate a full refund all i will ask is he return said package if it shows up at a later date.
Old Jun 2, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Tom,
I will let you know as soon as I receive the package.

The paypal claim will remain until I either get the radiator OR a full refund. If you issue a refund and I receive the product at a later date, I will pay you again for the radiator.

Kevin
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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ok, I'm a little bit confused here...

you claim you have a tracking number, but that you just cannot find it. And then, you complain that he didnt ask for one, so its his problem?? Why would it matter if he asked for one or not, if you truly had one at home?? Sorry, dude, but that doesnt add up at all. Who cares if he asked for one or not--when you say "I've got one at home", then doesnt that mean you already took care of that issue anyways?

In my experience here, excuses like this that go nowhere most often point to a dishonest person. Come on--put yourself in his shoes--he has NO PROOF AT ALL that you did in fact send anything. If you were the buyer here instead of the seller, you know damn well that you would be awful suspicious at this point yourself--anyone would. Also, you said some other things that simply dont add up....you said:

and your wrong the product got shipped out on may 15th i do believe after i look over my credit card statements.
Sorry, I dont believe this at all, and here's why--this is a message you sent the buyer, as he posted earlier in the thread. Pay attention to the date:

5/15-CarbonR1 (me)-
Did you receive my payment for the radiator? Please let me know when you ship it out with a tracking number.

Thanks,
Kevin

5/15-Viviorunitia88-
it will be going out tommorrow
you say you sent it on the 15th, but on the 15th you had not sent it yet, and told him it "would go out tomorrow". Which is it? It went out that day or it didnt? Like I said it doesnt add up.

Finally, let's clear up something else you said....

Wow and excuses i do have other business to acare of becides the forum as well as i couldent find it. It wasent excuses it was me telling him when i was looking for the reciept.
Just so you know, there isnt a person here that doesnt have other business in their life besides the forum. So, this is a BS argument if ever there was one. Where in the world did you ever get the idea that someone expected you to live your life on this forum just because they wanted you to send the tracking number in reasonable time? The forum has said this time and again---

IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE CONCLUSION OF THE SALE IN A REASONABLE TIME AND COMPLETELY THEN YOU DONT HAVE ANY BUSINESS SELLING PARTS ON THIS FORUM.

hey, that isnt my rule, its the forum rule. No one needs to hear the same excuses we always hear---"I was busy, I have a life outside the 7 club you know...". If you cannot finish the sale completely and within a reasonable amount of time then dont post things for sale on this forum. We ALL have lives....I work full-time, I'm a husband and father of 3, and I still take the time to help people here. You have no excuse there--especially considering that between the 15th and the 23rd, you made no less than 14 posts and were on here almost every one of those days--this means you clearly had the time to get online and give him that tracking number. So, yes, it IS an excuse and not a good one at that.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by viviorunitia88
As well as i just got off the phone usps at longest its going to take 19 business days since it was a balloned product which slows processing time down. So if the product does not get delievered by the end of the week he will be issued his refund.
ok, well, I am gonna have to call BS on this too. you see, I just got off the phone with USPS as well, and the one and only reference within their whole shipping system to "balloon" is the balloon rate that some large-sized packages are subject to WHEN THEY ARE SHIPPED OUT VIA USPS PRIORITY SERVICE...just so you know, Priority service NEVER is supposed to take "up to 19 business days".

Also, this radiator would NOT be a balloon rate item according to USPS anyways. According to USPS, with priority mail, a balloon rate is only for packages that are more than 70 pounds, or that measure more than 108 inches when you combine the length and the thickness of the package. There isnt a radiator for any car out there that will measure 9 feet when you combine the length with the thickness! And I somehow dont think that an aluminum radiator weighs more than 70 pounds...the only exception to this is if the zone youre shipping to is zones 1-4, and you would have been shipping this radiator to L.A. which is zone 7 for you.

In either event, even if this were a balloon rate, there is no difference in expected shipping time just because of the size or weight--we're talking about a radiator here, son, not truck freight. Sorry, but nothing youre saying is adding up at all here. Priority service is there "in most cases within 2 days", as told by the USPS website. Koyo says that the FD radiator weighs 25 pounds.....sorry to break it to ya but your story isnt working at all.

Not to mention you didnt even count the "19 business days" right....if you shipped on 5/16, then 19 business days would take him to 6/12....And at that point, to be honest, it seems like youre just stalling for time.
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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one thats great its not your place to step in its not your problem its mine and carbonr1 disbute. If you dont like it dont buy and just keep your nose out of it. i have talked to him obviously and if he doesnt get the product by saturday hes getting a full refund and if it does get there at a later date he will repost payment not a big deal. And it wasent sent priority it was sent parcel and thats why i did just get off the phone with them that day. Hell if you want you can even drive or fly or take ur magic broom stick up here and check my outgoing call logs since you seem to be the magical person on this forum. Hell if i had enough time to waste to just worry about other peoples business thats being discussed as a seller and a buyer i would seriously wonder about myself. This section is for notification of problems between sellers and buyers so other people can check before they make a purshase to be wary of certian details. Not to tear into matters that dont assoicate you. All everyone include well ur majesty of the forum is that things are getting resloved. A refund will be sent saturdaynight if i hear he hasent recieved it, and if he gets it at a later date he will reinstate payment. End of story so find somthing better to do.
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to review this thread and your valuable input. It is very much appreciated.

Kevin

Originally Posted by rx7roller02
ok, well, I am gonna have to call BS on this too. you see, I just got off the phone with USPS as well, and the one and only reference within their whole shipping system to "balloon" is the balloon rate that some large-sized packages are subject to WHEN THEY ARE SHIPPED OUT VIA USPS PRIORITY SERVICE...just so you know, Priority service NEVER is supposed to take "up to 19 business days".

Also, this radiator would NOT be a balloon rate item according to USPS anyways. According to USPS, with priority mail, a balloon rate is only for packages that are more than 70 pounds, or that measure more than 108 inches when you combine the length and the thickness of the package. There isnt a radiator for any car out there that will measure 9 feet when you combine the length with the thickness! And I somehow dont think that an aluminum radiator weighs more than 70 pounds...the only exception to this is if the zone youre shipping to is zones 1-4, and you would have been shipping this radiator to L.A. which is zone 7 for you.

In either event, even if this were a balloon rate, there is no difference in expected shipping time just because of the size or weight--we're talking about a radiator here, son, not truck freight. Sorry, but nothing youre saying is adding up at all here. Priority service is there "in most cases within 2 days", as told by the USPS website. Koyo says that the FD radiator weighs 25 pounds.....sorry to break it to ya but your story isnt working at all.

Not to mention you didnt even count the "19 business days" right....if you shipped on 5/16, then 19 business days would take him to 6/12....And at that point, to be honest, it seems like youre just stalling for time.
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by viviorunitia88
one thats great
No, see--it isnt great. A guy paid you $200 plus shipping and then you thought you needed to be told to get a tracking number....and thats if you even told the truth in all of this. If you didnt its even worse than that! Thats a sufficient amount of money that you shouldnt have to be told to get a tracking number--someone who has sold as many parts as you have around these parts should know better.

its not your place to step in its not your problem its mine and carbonr1 disbute. If you dont like it dont buy and just keep your nose out of it.
Your second mistake of this post, and its only your second thought.....I have the right to be involved because the mods here have authorized me to be involved. You see, I spend a good deal of time, money and resources helping people who buy from scammers. And until you can prove that you sent the radiator, this IS my business--make no mistake about that. This isnt a case of me just being some passer-by who happened to have an opinion, jack, so get over yourself.

i have talked to him obviously and if he doesnt get the product by saturday hes getting a full refund
Thats funny--you just told him that he needed to wait until the end of next week, and now all of a sudden you changed that to Saturday. Do you actually not realize that youre not sticking to any part of your story here?

and if it does get there at a later date he will repost payment not a big deal.
Obviously he didnt share your sentiment about this all not being a big deal--after all, thats his $200....and he did start this thread, so perhaps you should put a little more urgency into handling your business here. Either that, or stop conducting business here altogether.

And it wasent sent priority it was sent parcel and thats why i did just get off the phone with them that day.
You know whats really funny? Checking again with USPS, they state on the website that the shipping time for sending something 'parcel post' is 2-9 days within the continental US. As I said earlier, there is NO stipulation or guideline for a package taking up to 19 business days because of a balloon rate surcharge. NONE. This was confirmed on the phone with USPS today, so if youre telling the truth, then you should go check with them again to make sure they arent blowing smoke up your ***.

Hell if you want you can even drive or fly or take ur magic broom stick up here and check my outgoing call logs since you seem to be the magical person on this forum.
What really sucks is that people like you seem to think they have any business trying to insult people like me because we give a **** enough to be involved and to use our resources that the average person doesnt have access to. The only people who have a problem with people like me are the ones we catch scamming--perhaps you should consider that before replying with more pointless, smartass remarks. Bottom line, son, is that you failed to handle your business in a responsible manner--so stop bitching at me and take responsibility instead of making excuses. If you had done this right, would I be posting to you right now?? Think about that--let it sink in....

Hell if i had enough time to waste to just worry about other peoples business thats being discussed as a seller and a buyer i would seriously wonder about myself.
There's nothing wrong with acting to help people when one has access to things that most people do not. Throw **** at that all you like, it still doesnt change the fact that I have had much success in this forum helping others that got shafted. If you really think thats a waste of time, then lets see you go talk to the many members who got money back from a scammer, some of them even four years later, that they would not have gotten if not for what we do here. Of course, if you dont like it, you are more than welcome to look for another venue on which to advertise parts for sale and then make excuses why you cannot ship them out reasonably....

on the other hand, there IS something wrong with someone who whines about "I dont have time, I have other business besides this forum", at the same time he's posting more than a dozen other posts trying to get other people to buy other parts instead of taking care of the buyers he's already got!

This section is for notification of problems between sellers and buyers so other people can check before they make a purshase to be wary of certian details. Not to tear into matters that dont assoicate you.
1--this IS my business, just like it is the mods' business. Already discussed, take note of it and move along already.

2--the selling section on here has rules of its own and you didnt have any problem not following some of them, so why are you trying to wax all upright now? You didnt do it right when it was your turn, and now you want to educate me on the purpose of this place?? Thast a good one....

A refund will be sent saturdaynight if i hear he hasent recieved it, and if he gets it at a later date he will reinstate payment. End of story so find somthing better to do.[/QUOTE]

It had better be. If it isnt, then you should be prepared to have your other FS threads locked and your selling privleges suspended. And I would consider putting a leash on your ill-informed sense of sarcasm, chief--I am here because I have both the right to be here and the blessing of the mods of this section to get involved. There is a reason for that--way too many people have been scammed in here. Thanks to several of the mods and some of the members like me, we have cut down on that big-time, and we have also helped people who have been scammed to get resolution. Dont play games with me, son--you wont win. Thats a promise.

On a lighter note--if you handle your business, I will be first in line to thank you for it. Your problem is that youre taking what I do here far too personally--I didnt insutl your momma or anything, this is just about a transaction, nothing more. So, be smart--stop trying to make it into more, wise up and handle your business. OR, you can start looking for a new place to conduct it. Your choice.
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonR1
Thank you for taking the time to review this thread and your valuable input. It is very much appreciated.

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no prob, Kevin, please keep up updated on any new info....this guy has a ton of things for sale right now and if this doesnt get un-fuxxored, we need to address that before we have a half dozen other people lined up behind you looking for their money too.
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19 days shipping?

Scammer x100
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Package was received today and the radiator looked as promised. Next time, make sure to provide the buyer with a tracking number and shipping time. Paypal dispute closed.

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