very questionable transaction: turbodrx7
I dont think that is half'd ***'d at all. Also thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought you meant in a bad way 
08-09-07, 05:50 PM
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yeah, well in this case the RTV caused an exhaust leak which was very visible in the pics. There is no way in the world that this guy could not have known that the kit was not in good shape. Even the amount of shaft play--did you happen to watch the video that Kevin made right after he received the turbo? There is so much side-to-side play in that thing it's flat out ridiculous!
I think you havent seen the video he made.....watch the video and then tell me that torbodrx7 didnt know that the turbo was bad. Here is a link to the post that contains the video:
https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...31&postcount=1
scroll past the first pic to the link.
you tell me--if you saw that turbo in your hands, and could move that shaft around that much, would YOU think it was a good turbo?
08-23-07, 09:20 PM
#153
whoops...let this fall off the front page. 
I got an interesting PM from turbodrx7 the other day. Turns out that half the time his brother uses the forum account "turbodrx7" which is supposedly who I bought the parts from, and half the time another guy does.
Below are his comments (quoted) and my responses to a subsequent PM conversation after I was unable to contact him via either of the means listed above. I thought it appropriate to post it here for reasons discussed in the PM itself.
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Then why did you not reply to my email, nor ever sign onto AIM, the only methods of communication you offered me?
What does it matter if it ends now or goes on for a year? You and your little bro seem very secure in your stance, as do I, so why do you even care? It's not as if anything is going to change...we are both going to continue to believe we are each right. Bottom line, the concern is mine to worry about and not the other way around, since I am the one that got the short end of the stick. When all the bullshit clears, he has my money and I do not have what I was promised.
Yeah, this whole time there's no telling which multiple personality I have been talking to at what point in the fiasco. It could be that this is just a diversion meant to get me to drop the issue...stranger things have happened, such as the scammer who created another user account and posed as a girl to validate a transaction with his other screen name and get people to back off.
Regardless, this certainly serves to add credibility to your side of things. IT also makes perfect sense that you/your brother whined to the mods when I posted a comment in your thread under an old username, meanwhile 2 people have been sharing yours without my direct knowledge. Not hypocritical at all, is it? </sarcasm>
What in the **** could I have done differently? As a seller of 7 years on the internet, I think I know what is expected of a seller and of a buyer. It is the buyers responsibility to negotiate the deal that they want and to be sure they are buying parts in good condition. I, as a buyer, asked about the condition and was told that everything was good and ready to use. That is all the buyer has to do...send the money and sit back and wait for their parts to show up, AS DESCRIBED.
This did not happen. As a seller your brother (or you, or whatever) failed. Bottom line.
How do I define my ideas of a seller's responsibility? I've learned what people expect of me when I sell some parts. If I were to have sold that kit, AT ANY PRICE, without full disclosure of the turbo condition (shaft play, wheel damage), wastegate ghetto adaptor with RTV, and hacked downpipe, I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MY NAME PASTED ALL OVER THE INTERNET AS A TOTAL SCAMMER WHO PURPOSELY SCAMMED MY BUYER. Why should I not expect my sellers to live up to the same requirements that are imposed upon me when I sell?
I did not come out and say that you scammed me, I simply said "I had a problem that wasn't resolved to my expectation, use caution when dealing with this seller". That is fully within my rights as a forum user and a buyer.
I drive a Denali, not an Escalade.
Or, were you trying to say escalate, as in "to raise to a higher level"?
"belittle your brother"? What in the mother **** are you talking about? Regardless, in my opinion, your brother needed a little belittling. I can say with certainty that I felt a lot damn more than belittled when I realized I was $700 shorter and did not have a useable turbo kit, so I guess it's only fair to return the favor.
Again...why are you worried about it? IF it's so pointless, then you stand to lose nothing from it, right? Or are you worried that this will bite you and/or your brother in the *** the next time you try to sell something?
Just a few paragraphs above you say "I did not want to communicate with you via pm"...so which is it, make your mind up.
If I have anythign to say I will do it in public, which is fully within my rights as the wronged party in this transaction. You want me to go away quietly, I will not.
I got an interesting PM from turbodrx7 the other day. Turns out that half the time his brother uses the forum account "turbodrx7" which is supposedly who I bought the parts from, and half the time another guy does.
My name is Austin, Turbodrx7 is my screen name on the forums that my brother uses. My brother sold you the turbo kit and ultimatly tarnished my name through the fall out. I see you are online, if you could send me a Im on aol at ------ or an email at --------------- so i can discuss a few things with you. I would like this issue to be settled once and for all.
Thanks,
Austin
Thanks,
Austin
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Originally Posted by turbodrx7
I didnt want to talk to you through pm, but it doesnt matter at this point.
I didnt want to talk to you through pm, but it doesnt matter at this point.
All i was trying to do is make sure that this was a dead issue. Obviously what's done is done and this turned out to be a very bad transaction for both parties.
I just recently found the thread in the good guy/ bad guy section about the transaction, that is what prompted me to pm you since I noticed this was still being debated. To be honest, i was the one that sent you a pm promting you to make a thread for the sole reason of seeing what others thought about the situation.
Regardless, this certainly serves to add credibility to your side of things. IT also makes perfect sense that you/your brother whined to the mods when I posted a comment in your thread under an old username, meanwhile 2 people have been sharing yours without my direct knowledge. Not hypocritical at all, is it? </sarcasm>
You obviously thought that you were entitled to more and my brother disagreed. I think that both parties handled the situation poorly, and as much as you would like to think so, my brother is not completely at fault.
This did not happen. As a seller your brother (or you, or whatever) failed. Bottom line.
How do I define my ideas of a seller's responsibility? I've learned what people expect of me when I sell some parts. If I were to have sold that kit, AT ANY PRICE, without full disclosure of the turbo condition (shaft play, wheel damage), wastegate ghetto adaptor with RTV, and hacked downpipe, I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MY NAME PASTED ALL OVER THE INTERNET AS A TOTAL SCAMMER WHO PURPOSELY SCAMMED MY BUYER. Why should I not expect my sellers to live up to the same requirements that are imposed upon me when I sell?
I did not come out and say that you scammed me, I simply said "I had a problem that wasn't resolved to my expectation, use caution when dealing with this seller". That is fully within my rights as a forum user and a buyer.
I also think that once the thread got rolling, yours, and other forum members arrogance got the better of you, escaladed things.
Or, were you trying to say escalate, as in "to raise to a higher level"?
I dont know if you honestly think that you are better then other forums members or what? But i would like to think that you can give me enough respect to talk to me like an adult and not like you have tried to belittle my brother.
I just wanted to see if we had an understanding between us that this issue is as resolved as it is going to be? So the pointless argueing between you and my brother can stop.
If there is anything that needs to be said i would like for it to be said between you and I through pm where i can discuss it with you maturely.
If I have anythign to say I will do it in public, which is fully within my rights as the wronged party in this transaction. You want me to go away quietly, I will not.
08-26-07, 04:31 PM
#155
You did in fact though write a false description. Normal shaft play?? Look at the video. NO way that happened shipping it. YOU know you were selling **** so just admit it. I for one dont know either of you but i know who I would by stuff from and it IS NOT YOU. SCAMMER=NO, LIES=YES.
Ok juiceh, im going to try to be as calm as i can right now, but i am just so tired of people missing things. I did NOT scam kevin. A scammer would be someone who steals money, i didnt steal any money from kevin, there was mearly some crossed wires on the way the deal went down. Kevin didnt ask ANY questions about it, except for what kind of turbo it was. Nothing at all. Did he expect perfect $3000 new turbo kit parts, of course he did, he thinks that is all he deserves, i mean ****, hes kevin landers isnt he? Did he get them? Of course not, he payed $700 for a USED turbo kit. Used parts are USED parts. Kevin wasted his time with this? He spent more time trying to get me to take his side, and do what he asked he could have already had the stuff gone. He sold the majority of the stuff within HOURS. You dont know anything about me, dont be so quick to judge. I dont have a problem with you stating your side, but do not insult me by calling me a scammer. If my customer service sucked, i would have told kevin to shove it, and stopped responding. I have lost money in deals, its how it goes.
09-11-07, 03:08 PM
#158
Alex was the one you dealt with in the transaction. I wasn't aware Austin had anything to do with it.
I dunno why Austin/Alex share accounts. Regardless, I think Austin was genuinely trying to explain the situation.
I never saw any part of the kit that was sent to you Kevin. It was offered to my roomate who is working through a build right now and he decided to turn it down just due to the unknown history on it. I wish I would have seen it so Alex wouldn't have attempted to sell something that wasn't in the condition he may/may not have believed it to be in.
Hope something is worked out to everyones satisfaction.
Mike
09-11-07, 04:19 PM
#159
Austin might have been geniunely trying to resolve the situation, so long as that resolution ended up with me admitting that his brother had done as well with the deal as possible and I did not get a bad deal, which was not going to happen. Of course when I started stating why this was not possible, he didn't want to hear of it and stubbed up just like his brother, again telling me how unreasonable I was etc.
Last edited by RotaryResurrection; 09-11-07 at 04:29 PM.
09-11-07, 05:12 PM
#160
just to make things even more interesting, the paypal payment went to Mark Edwards, which doesnt match up with any of the aforementioned Austin, Brian, Alex, John Hancock, or Seymour Butts.
Anyone else want to claim involvement in this scheme?
Anyone else want to claim involvement in this scheme?
09-17-07, 07:54 AM
#162
Brian is a friend of ours with a tII, i dont know why he was brought up. Mark is my father and whos name is on the paypal account, since both my brother and I were too young to start the paypal account when it was started.
And the only reason i got involved was because my brother had done wrong and you just wouldnt let go of the situation. So i thought that i would talk to you since all you and my brother were doing was argueing like school girls. But that turned out to be pointless.
It is even more pointless for me to continue argueing with you Kevin. You and I would be argueing the same points that have been argueed in the previous 6 pages. I think that you just need to let it go. You have made your point and let it be known that you had a bad transaction with my brother. That was the purpose of the thread correct? I think you just like to argue.
-Austin
09-17-07, 10:47 AM
#163
So if you knew your brother did wrong....why didnt you have talk with him anf tell him to resolve the problem? And why shouldnt Kevin be upset? If this happend to you....would you let it go? Doubt it.
What exactly are YOU doing to help resolve the situation besides talking down to Kevin and the others who are supposedly arguing like school girls with your lilttle brother?
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