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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Funny how the 3 assclowns XxMerlinxX,charlies7 & 7_rocket were on turbodrx7's nuts about this transaction have disappeared.
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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LOL, you are so retarded... You said in your last posted when i stated AGAIN i didnt build the car that you were not talking to me, rather the person that built the car, he isnt on here, you stupid ****. I dont know about these engines? Is that the same reason i built my 400whp fd from the ground up after i bought it without a motor, diff or any interior? You have steered to far away from this thread, and into trying to take me by itself, and its so god damn hilarious. You dont know who i am, what i do, or what i know about anything. You are nothing but some internet fucktard who likes to get in a start arguements. You my friend are nothing but a waste of all of our air. Get lost, you have made your point.

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SURPRISE--youre a retard!!

Where was I talking to someone who isnt on this forum, jackass?? I was telling YOU that YOU put YOUR TRUST into SOMEONE ELSE who half-assed his car...and I further said that YOU had plenty of red flags not to trust THE OTHER GUY, who just so happens to not be on this forum.

In your eyes, that is talking to someone who isnt even on this forum?

WOW, youre a moron....

I called you a dumbass because I questioned the know-how of that person....and then I questioned your intelligence because you had plenty of clues as to his lack of smarts under the hood. And from that, you FIRST claimed that I thought you built that engine.....which makes you, yes, YOU, the dumbass just as I stated.

Do we need a recap, a special class just for you??

1--the guy that built the car told you the turbo was good.
2--he wasnt even smart enough to include a fuel filter on his 400hp rotary build.
3--retard then blew his engine.
4--you then took his word that everything was fine, despite the fact that he is a complete dipshit when it comes to cars.
5--SURPRISE--everything turned out to not be fine.

6--I then called YOU a ******* dumbass, because YOU took the word of an ignorant *** when he couldnt even get his build to last more than 500 miles due entirely to sheer stupidity.

You bought the car. You thought you were getting a steal. Then you looked at the frame and found all kinds of damage that your pal didnt tell you about. That's one red flag. Then, you learned about how he blew the motor, with no fuel filter--that's two red flags. Then, he claimed the turbo was checked by a shop and was good to go....until you found shaft play that he claimed it didnt have. That's THREE red flags. Then we have other things like the RTV(FOUR red flags). And on top of all that, you trusted his word, even to bitch at RR when he showed you proof that you screwed him!

And to top it all off, as if you havent shown enough absolutely point-blank stupidity up to this point, you try to accuse me of thinking you built that engine. AND THEN, even more--you then think I was talking to that guy?!?

Dude--hang it up. You couldnt fall any further backward at this point. You just made a complete *** of yourself for no reason. Reading owns you. Common sense owns you. And from the look of this thread, I just owned your *** too. Get lost, chump. Maybe you can go play with your sister's dolls or something, because you obviously have no clue about these cars. Who in the world doesnt see the problem in not using a fuel filter on a high performance rotary engine??

oh yeah, by the way, when I ask questions like that, they are rhetorical, which means I am not specifically expecting an answer or directing it at you, because the answer should be obvious. That is where you failed--twice--in trying to tell me what I was attempting to do. hell, you couldnt even get that part right on two tries!!!

Thanks for playing, and have a nice day.
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7goomba
Funny how the 3 assclowns XxMerlinxX,charlies7 & 7_rocket were on turbodrx7's nuts about this transaction have disappeared.

Well rx7goomba aka nut swinger, I do have a life outside the rx7 club. I'm sorry I wasn't there for the past 4 days to follow up on this thread, I mean damn it must be on my highest priority to sign on and check up on people I'll NEVER meet. I suggest you get off your computer and do something else with your life other than harass people.

Get off GoodfellasFD3S ***** while your at it
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Haha, true my friend, but dont get goodfellas involved in this hes a stand up guy. Im done posting , until now, goomba because I also have better things to do with whats going on with my life right now. Im getting ready for school, I work, and have a woman to attend to . Ive stated my point clearly, oh and dont insult me. If you feel like you have to then grow up! What are you accomplishing?



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Well rx7goomba aka nut swinger, I do have a life outside the rx7 club. I'm sorry I wasn't there for the past 4 days to follow up on this thread, I mean damn it must be on my highest priority to sign on and check up on people I'll NEVER meet. I suggest you get off your computer and do something else with your life other than harass people.

Get off GoodfellasFD3S ***** while your at it
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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we've heard from larry and curly...the third one (moe) should be along anytime now.

j/k, I dont know any of you, only what I've read...which seems to hold true thus far.
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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^wow, all you guys seriously need to pick up a new hobby.

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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
we've heard from larry and curly...the third one (moe) should be along anytime now.

j/k, I dont know any of you, only what I've read...which seems to hold true thus far.
So what does that make you and Goomba, Dumb and Dumber? Yeah, I'd go along with that.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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So what does that make you and Goomba, Dumb and Dumber? Yeah, I'd go along with that.
Bahhaha...these 3 idiots follow each other around more than lil kids playing peewee football! Its amusing to see how worked up they get. I honestly think they send pics of each other wearing bananna hamocks while rubbing peanut butter all over themselves.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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this is funny....

both of you KNOW how to built cars, but cant seem to know enough to protect yourself from a transaction like this?

trust me, when people started using "not that i can tell", "it came with the car and never use it, so i can't gurrantee it" phrases like that is a red flag
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Merciless
this is funny....

both of you KNOW how to built cars, but cant seem to know enough to protect yourself from a transaction like this?

trust me, when people started using "not that i can tell", "it came with the car and never use it, so i can't gurrantee it" phrases like that is a red flag
Yeah, ditto
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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LOL, you are so retarded... You said in your last posted when i stated AGAIN i didnt build the car that you were not talking to me, rather the person that built the car, he isnt on here, you stupid ****. I dont know about these engines? Is that the same reason i built my 400whp fd from the ground up after i bought it without a motor, diff or any interior? You have steered to far away from this thread, and into trying to take me by itself, and its so god damn hilarious. You dont know who i am, what i do, or what i know about anything. You are nothing but some internet fucktard who likes to get in a start arguements. You my friend are nothing but a waste of all of our air. Get lost, you have made your point.
ok, so, when someone says they "referred to" a person, that means the same thing in your mind as talking to that person??

Can you talk ABOUT someone without having to talk TO them, ya big jackass??

Again, since you are obviously in need of a helmet, I talked ABOUT your friend's stupidity, and then asked you how YOU can practice your own stupidity by trusting him when there were so many red flags?

CAN YA HEAR ME NOW???

NOWHERE was I "talking to" the person that built that engine, you flaming retard. I was talking ABOUT him, and saying that you had so many reasons not to take his word....but you were a moron and did anyways. And it bit you in the pooter, didnt it?

Five bucks says tomorrow, you would go back and buy something else from this "friend" of yours. If I were in your shoes, I would be knocking on his door, finding out just what the hell he did to me. And then, I would be inquiring about this "shop"....you know, the one that supposedly gave this turbo a passing grade. If there really is a shop, then I would be telling everyone I know to stay as far away as possible from it. You're the kind of fucknut that farts in the bathtub and bites at the bubbles....and you cannot have it both ways--either you play the ignorance card or you boast away about your very own 400hp rotary, that you also admit you blew....But I do know that when you made comments about how this engine blew, you didnt seem to think anything was wrong with not using a fuel filter. In your original FS ad, you even made it sound like "this is all that happened, so the rest of everything is still good". You have certainly sounded far from knowledgeable in this thread, so dont yank my chain.

But oh, yeah, you know so much about these engines, right? So, DO TELL, how is it that you had no clue, supposedly, that this turbo was junk, if you know so much? First, you come in here claiming ignorance--and you said your buddy told you a shop checked that turbo and it was fine. but now, you try to talk about how much you really know about these engines?? So which is the truth??

1--you know nothing about these things
2--you know enough to build your very own 400hp RX7, but were simply clueless about the parts you sold Kevin

Someone's not telling the whole truth here, probie....guess who it is?!? here's a hint--it sure aint me....

Either youre ignorant about this topic or you arent. You claimed at first to not know that it was bad. Youve still been insisting throughout this thread that the turbo isnt bad, even with those pics!!

No matter how you slice this, you are an idiot. you wrongly thought I claimed you built this engine. You then wrongly thought(dont know how, the words were plain as day) that I was talking "to" someone when I was talking ABOUT them.

And by the way, since when is it not addressing the thread topic when I talk about your actions in this sale, all the red flags, and the parts themselves?? THAT IS THE TOPIC, dipshit. Even though you would much rather think it is "all about money".....

Why dont you step away from the keyboard, go blow your FD motor, and then roll some hose....maybe that would be more productive than how badly you have failed here--you cant even read!!

Old Aug 7, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Merciless
this is funny....

both of you KNOW how to built cars, but cant seem to know enough to protect yourself from a transaction like this?

trust me, when people started using "not that i can tell", "it came with the car and never use it, so i can't gurrantee it" phrases like that is a red flag
yeah, point taken, but this was different. He said in his FS ad that he didnt know the condition of some of the parts, and would describe them to the best he could. And then, he gave a perfectly knowledgeable(or at least it sounded like one) description of this kit. There was no doubt--no "well, this is what I heard" or "I think" about it. This is, word for word, how he described this kit:

T-70 turbo setup. Ebay manifold, welds have been renforced(sp lol). Custom downpipe, turbonetics deltaII wastegate. Turbo has a little shaft play, is journal bearing so it is supposed to have a bit. It does not blow oil, or smoke of any kind, and spools and boost fine. $750+shipping for it all.
Does that sound to you like he doesnt know what shape this thing is in? Doesnt sound questionable to me....sounds like he knows exactly what condition it is in. He also described it like this:

T-70 turbo setup. Full turbonetics setup. Manifold is ebay with re-enforced welds. Wastegate is turbonetics 40mm. No dump tube. Turbo is a masterpower with a .81 hotside. Very good response along with good power. Made 389whp on 15psi(dyno sheet upon request). Includes downpipe, 3 inch. Turbo is in perfect shape, no shaft play. Comes with steel braided feed and return lines $1200 O.b.o (I would prefer to sell as a whole kit, but if everything is spoken for and money is recieved i will split it up)
When you tell me that something is "in perfect shape", am I supposed to assume it is junk?

There is one cause for this mess--the fact is that the seller did not tell the truth when he advertised this for sale. And then, when he "discovered" shaft play, he didnt tell the truth again. He purposely made it sound so minimal that the turbo would still be good--in fact he even said it was still plenty good. Nowhere do we see him admitting that he knows nothing firsthand about that turbo until Kevin made this thread to complain about a ****-poor deal. The way he makes it sound in his FS threads, he has first-hand knowledge and documented proof that this turbo is in perfect shape.

Now, should Kevin have been cautious when he mentioned the "little shaft play"? I dont know. Because he still claimed that this turbo was a 400hp turbo, ran strong, spooled and boosted just fine, and blew no smoke or oil. When a seller lies to his buyer, no matter what kind of experience that buyer has, it is not his fault that the guy lied.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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per recommendation....

in my opinion the seller's description was not in line with the quality of the product, and your request for a full refund (or with loss of shipping costs) should have been given granted. I think you handled it the best you could and with ultimately minimal loss considering the condition of the products.

Personally I have considered buying parts from turbodrx7 but after seeing the parts and more importantly his comments, I won't be buying parts from him mo matter how badly I need them.

On a less serious note,
Kevin, do you mind if I use your "floodgates of ownage" line? tho my reputation on this forum is lesser known than yours, I do like to pretend to pwn people in real life and it would go well in my vocabulary... classic...
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Fero313
per recommendation....
in my opinion the seller's description was not in line with the quality of the product, and your request for a full refund (or with loss of shipping costs) should have been given granted. I think you handled it the best you could and with ultimately minimal loss considering the condition of the products.

Personally I have considered buying parts from turbodrx7 but after seeing the parts and more importantly his comments, I won't be buying parts from him mo matter how badly I need them.

On a less serious note,
Kevin, do you mind if I use your "floodgates of ownage" line? tho my reputation on this forum is lesser known than yours, I do like to pretend to pwn people in real life and it would go well in my vocabulary... classic...

LOL!!!!
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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You are a complete, retarded ignorant jackass who is talking to absolutly nobody. Im not reading your stuff anymore, your not making a point to anybody. No body gives a **** what you say, you have no idea what you are even talking about. Btw, the blowing my motor comment was HILARIOUS

Btw-you can pm me for my paypal, dont call **** out and not man up. he isnt my "friend", just a guy i met and bought a car from. Let me know when you wanna send it over, dumbshit.

Originally Posted by rx7roller02
ok, so, when someone says they "referred to" a person, that means the same thing in your mind as talking to that person??

Can you talk ABOUT someone without having to talk TO them, ya big jackass??

Again, since you are obviously in need of a helmet, I talked ABOUT your friend's stupidity, and then asked you how YOU can practice your own stupidity by trusting him when there were so many red flags?

CAN YA HEAR ME NOW???

NOWHERE was I "talking to" the person that built that engine, you flaming retard. I was talking ABOUT him, and saying that you had so many reasons not to take his word....but you were a moron and did anyways. And it bit you in the pooter, didnt it?

Five bucks says tomorrow, you would go back and buy something else from this "friend" of yours. If I were in your shoes, I would be knocking on his door, finding out just what the hell he did to me. And then, I would be inquiring about this "shop"....you know, the one that supposedly gave this turbo a passing grade. If there really is a shop, then I would be telling everyone I know to stay as far away as possible from it. You're the kind of fucknut that farts in the bathtub and bites at the bubbles....and you cannot have it both ways--either you play the ignorance card or you boast away about your very own 400hp rotary, that you also admit you blew....But I do know that when you made comments about how this engine blew, you didnt seem to think anything was wrong with not using a fuel filter. In your original FS ad, you even made it sound like "this is all that happened, so the rest of everything is still good". You have certainly sounded far from knowledgeable in this thread, so dont yank my chain.

But oh, yeah, you know so much about these engines, right? So, DO TELL, how is it that you had no clue, supposedly, that this turbo was junk, if you know so much? First, you come in here claiming ignorance--and you said your buddy told you a shop checked that turbo and it was fine. but now, you try to talk about how much you really know about these engines?? So which is the truth??

1--you know nothing about these things
2--you know enough to build your very own 400hp RX7, but were simply clueless about the parts you sold Kevin

Someone's not telling the whole truth here, probie....guess who it is?!? here's a hint--it sure aint me....

Either youre ignorant about this topic or you arent. You claimed at first to not know that it was bad. Youve still been insisting throughout this thread that the turbo isnt bad, even with those pics!!

No matter how you slice this, you are an idiot. you wrongly thought I claimed you built this engine. You then wrongly thought(dont know how, the words were plain as day) that I was talking "to" someone when I was talking ABOUT them.

And by the way, since when is it not addressing the thread topic when I talk about your actions in this sale, all the red flags, and the parts themselves?? THAT IS THE TOPIC, dipshit. Even though you would much rather think it is "all about money".....

Why dont you step away from the keyboard, go blow your FD motor, and then roll some hose....maybe that would be more productive than how badly you have failed here--you cant even read!!

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You are a complete, retarded ignorant jackass who is talking to absolutly nobody. Im not reading your stuff anymore, your not making a point to anybody. No body gives a **** what you say, you have no idea what you are even talking about. Btw, the blowing my motor comment was HILARIOUS

Btw-you can pm me for my paypal, dont call **** out and not man up. he isnt my "friend", just a guy i met and bought a car from. Let me know when you wanna send it over, dumbshit.
whoa, so let me see if I got this right--

You DIDNT EVEN KNOW THIS GUY?? You took the word of a COMPLETE STRANGER? What kind of dumbass are you? The guy sold you a car, not as a parts car but as your next project, and LIED TO YOU ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE ENTIRE CAR....and then, after you found out thast he lied about the shape the car was in, you still took his word for the condition of the parts??

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY THAT RETARDED??

Thanks for clearing this one up for us....as I said, you were solely responsible for how you advertised the parts. You insisted without any doubt that they were in perfectly good shape. All the rest of this is nothing more than you being a jackass and getting called on it--you took the word of a guy you didnt even know, after you found that the car was not worth using!! HOW STUPID CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE?

1--a complete stranger
2--lied to you about the condition of the car overall
3--you caught him lying when you found rust and damage undeerneath
4--you also caught him lying when you discovered play on the turbo
5--you lied yourself in your FS thread about how much play there was
6--you knew there was enough of a problem that you dropped the price $500....
7--you then insisted that "there wasnt that much play when it left here..."
8--you still tried to claim that it was still good and capable of 400hp....

And to top all this off, you call ME the retard here??

DUDE--you just got OWNED. That guy laughed his *** all the way to the bank because of the sucker he played you for, and rather than handle your **** like a man, you would rather trade insults with me on here?? Which, by the way, you suck at too....you couldnt even get my comment right not once but twice! Still gonna tell me how I was "talking to a guy that isnt on the forum" dipshit?? Or are you going back to your original brain fart where I supposedly thought you built that engine?

Either way, youre a dumbass. Shut the hell up already and own up to your **** like a man. YOU advertised those parts the way you did, that makes YOU responsible for the screwups.

Class dismissed
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After reading every single post in this thread I came down to the conclusion that it's an error on both parts.

RR started by saying he was going to make this thread as civil as possible, yet turbodrx7 came in here all on the offensive. Look this is RR's thread. He was explaining HIS experiences and you came in to declare yours and start this war.

Turborx7 you began this and you refuse to drop it. If you're such a man of which you describe yourself to be then you'll step out of this thread. Because you, yourself told everyone that you wouldn't partake in such a childish argument. There will be people that still respect you like your ******* over there and then there will be people that don't. Focus on yourself and try to work yourself back up because it's going to be a long ride.

Besides...you know RR and the gang won't drop this. So why don't you?
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Besides...you know RR and the gang won't drop this. So why don't you?
HAHA your so right about that!! seriously turbodrx7 just drop the thread entirely, both sides are of the story are up. The more you talk the longer this retarded bullshit is going to go on. Let the people who read this thread come to their own conclusion. I voiced my opinion, I got insulted, talked down to and so forth. Do i care? hell no Others voiced there opinion, i repsectively argued theirs also. Yet somehow im always getting called out for speaking a different view point .
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actually, charlie, this could all be done and over with, if the seller would stop trying to be so dishonest about this transaction. Seriously, why would anyone in the rotary community, knowing how temperamental our engines can get, why would anyone ignore so many red flags and refuse to admit the facts of the matter if they really did have good intentions? Cpme on, ask yourself this question--

If you were the one buying that car/turbo kit for your own use(not to sell), and you found so many red flags, would YOU simply sit back and keep saying that the parts were good, or would you speak up to the guy that just lied to you? Let people draw their own conclusions, yes, but seriously, what other conclusion is there? If it is my money, and I just bought that car, you can bet your last buck I would be having a chat with the guy that sold me the car....instead, he finds out the car is junk, says "oh well, I'll just sell the parts", and then even in the face of overwhelming evidence, he still proclaims that the parts are in good order.

What other conclusion can a reasonable person come to? And why is this guy still refusing to be honest? Man....seriously....He's become so busy trying to go tit for tat with me that he cant even read the posts and tell what they mean anymore, let alone address the many points I and others have posted to him. That is all the conclusion anyone needs.

By the way, I agree, you always do seem to get dumped on, but you have contributed plenty to these threads.....not sure whats up with that.
Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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By the way, I agree, you always do seem to get dumped on, but you have contributed plenty to these threads.....not sure whats up with that.
What do u mean i have contributed to many of these threads...I believe this is the only controversal thread that I have voiced my opinion in. I still believe that turbodrx7 didnt know about the condition of the turbo other than the shaft play before you he sold. I agree with Merciless when he said they both didnt protect themselves before making the transaction and ill leave it at that..

BTW: you should look into becoming an investigator or some ****.
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charlie--I was saying "contributed" in a good way, not a bad one. I have seen you post before and you usually offer a good solid point of view. Not sure which other threads off the top of my head but I do recall you posting in others.

I disagree about turbodrx7....he bought the car from the guy and found all kinds of damage underneath that the guy didnt tell him about. That's the first red flag. The second came when he found shaft play, and the guy told him that a shop gave it a clean bill of health. The third came when he discovered RTV instead of the proper gaskets. Then there was the fact that he knew how the guy blew his engine--no fuel filter. That in itself should have at the very least raised enough suspicion out of an experienced rotary guy that he would have checked a bit deeper. There were easily a half dozen red flags all over this deal before he received money from Kevin. An experienced rotary guy should have known better than to continue to take the word of a complete stranger that was already proven to be dishonest in this whole deal, dont you think?

He says he is experienced enough that he built his own motor, but when he took parts off the engine and noticed how crappy they looked, he then took pics of only the top half of the part, so as not to show his buyer what shape it was really in. There is no way that is excuseable. It is also not possible that it was unintentional in my book. He took complete pics of everything else except for the one part that was visibly the worst on the bottom.....I dont believe in this much 'coincidence' really being coincidence.



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