very questionable transaction: turbodrx7
07-27-07, 02:10 PM
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very questionable transaction: turbodrx7
First, let me reiterate that the seller did keep in contact with me and did work with me for a partial refund; what was said and what was given was not to my satisfaction and I still lost a good bit of money on the deal which is a burden I should not have had to bear. In fact, I wasn't going to post at all, but the seller's continued attitude made me decide that this needed to be done after all.
I am not posting this as a "bad guy" or a "rip off" but as a "questionable transaction" that prospective buyers should consider and use caution before buying.
Here's the story:
I bought this guy's t70 turbo kit advertised as good working order with minimal shaft play, no smoke, no issues. It came with manifold, wastegate, turbo, and downpipe. There were only a few pics...one of each part basically, but everything looked okay and the price was right at $700. I was mainly buying the "kit" for the turbo itself, and planned to possibly change some of the other parts if they didnt suit my tastes.
So it shows up, all packaged in this one long and skinny box, very thin, with a hole in the side and peanuts spilling out. Turns out that this 50lb turbo KIT had been sent in this long, skinny box with nothing BUT peanuts...so all the parts shifted to the bottom. Both air nipples were broken off the wastegate, which had been banging around on the bottom.
The wastegate looked like it was from 1956, but it appeared to work normally other than the broken air nipples. However, it was rigged onto the exhaust manifold with a GHETTO adaptor plate, some random bolts, and RTV sealant on each side of this metal plate instead of actual gaskets (the RTV had been blown out and would have been an exhaust leak).
The downpipe was a piece of **** that my 3 year old could have welded. The pic showed only the top 12", which was perfectly welded and mandrel bent. From there down was totally hacked, with unneccessary odd-looking flanges and shitty transitions/welds. The pipe was mostly 3", but narrowed to 2.5" at the bottom.
The manifold was fine...as expected. The seller claimed he spent $100 in "reinforcement welding" but all i could find were 2) 2" beads welded in one corner...not for reinforcement, likely to fix an existing crack. The welds were maybe 10-20 dollars worth. This was one of the SSAC cheap manifolds, which I knew and I was fine with that.
The turbo was trash. I sat it on the bench and it had 2-3mm of shaft play, and 1mm+ of thrust play. So it was trashed. The seller claimed it had just a little play which was normal. I showed him a digicam video of me moving the shaft, and he said "it didnt have that much when it left here..." implying that it was somehow my fault. I PM'd him the video about 3 hours after delivery at my house, so clearly I couldnt have tore it up myself.
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/kl...o/DSCF2643.AVI
I pulled off the compressor housing and the wheel had been rubbing, you could see the edges of the fins were shiny and abraded, and the inside of the housing had scratches on it.
I pulled off the turbine housing and got a shock. The turbine fins were CHEWED up from a previous apex seal going through them.
So...the turbo basically was useless...the bearings and seals needed replaced. the shaft and turbine wheel needed replaced, and the compressor wheel was questionable.
I called a master power turbo retailer/rebuilder and told him the situation...he advised me that I might as well buy a new one because the repair costs would meet or exceed that cost...$600.
I notified the seller, and he got defensive pretty quickly. He told me I should just sell the pieces to get my money back...I told him that the pieces were not worth much at all, plus it would take time and energy to sell them, and I shouldn't have to fool with this ****.
I wanted him to take the kit back, and give me a partial refund. I even offered (generously, IMO) to take the loss on the shipping cost from him to me, and from me back to him, and I offered to take $600 of my 700 back and be done with it. He refused and told me I was being unreasonable.
The way I added it up, the turbo, manifold, wastegate, and (shitty) downpipe were worth MAYBE $250-275 on a good day. He was offering me an additional $250 refund, but even after investing time and energy into selling the pieces, I would not break anywhere near even.
Finally he bitched and whined more and offered me $350 and told me to either take it or leave it. Obviously I took it, rather than running the risk of getting nothing at all. I let it be known I did not believe this was fair and that I was not happy with it. I did thank him and give him credit for at least staying in contact and making an effort.
I still do not see how he could not have known the turbo was trash...all it took was 10 seconds to grab the shaft and go "uh oh...". This is probably the worst worn/destroyed turbocharger I have ever layed hands on, so I dont really believe that "he didn't know" it was bad.
So far I have sold all the parts of the kit for the following prices (after shipping was paid for); this took 3-4 weeks to completely recover this much money, and I am still out $100 even after the seller's refund, plus my time and effort in listing, selling, packing and shipping the parts.
turbo core/downpipe: $100
manifold: $95
wastegate: $55
So I paid $700, got $350 refund, took time to document and sell these parts on my own, and still lost $100 for my trouble. And the seller says I am whining and being unreasonable.
I am not posting this as a "bad guy" or a "rip off" but as a "questionable transaction" that prospective buyers should consider and use caution before buying.
Here's the story:
I bought this guy's t70 turbo kit advertised as good working order with minimal shaft play, no smoke, no issues. It came with manifold, wastegate, turbo, and downpipe. There were only a few pics...one of each part basically, but everything looked okay and the price was right at $700. I was mainly buying the "kit" for the turbo itself, and planned to possibly change some of the other parts if they didnt suit my tastes.
So it shows up, all packaged in this one long and skinny box, very thin, with a hole in the side and peanuts spilling out. Turns out that this 50lb turbo KIT had been sent in this long, skinny box with nothing BUT peanuts...so all the parts shifted to the bottom. Both air nipples were broken off the wastegate, which had been banging around on the bottom.
The wastegate looked like it was from 1956, but it appeared to work normally other than the broken air nipples. However, it was rigged onto the exhaust manifold with a GHETTO adaptor plate, some random bolts, and RTV sealant on each side of this metal plate instead of actual gaskets (the RTV had been blown out and would have been an exhaust leak).
The downpipe was a piece of **** that my 3 year old could have welded. The pic showed only the top 12", which was perfectly welded and mandrel bent. From there down was totally hacked, with unneccessary odd-looking flanges and shitty transitions/welds. The pipe was mostly 3", but narrowed to 2.5" at the bottom.
The manifold was fine...as expected. The seller claimed he spent $100 in "reinforcement welding" but all i could find were 2) 2" beads welded in one corner...not for reinforcement, likely to fix an existing crack. The welds were maybe 10-20 dollars worth. This was one of the SSAC cheap manifolds, which I knew and I was fine with that.
The turbo was trash. I sat it on the bench and it had 2-3mm of shaft play, and 1mm+ of thrust play. So it was trashed. The seller claimed it had just a little play which was normal. I showed him a digicam video of me moving the shaft, and he said "it didnt have that much when it left here..." implying that it was somehow my fault. I PM'd him the video about 3 hours after delivery at my house, so clearly I couldnt have tore it up myself.
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/kl...o/DSCF2643.AVI
I pulled off the compressor housing and the wheel had been rubbing, you could see the edges of the fins were shiny and abraded, and the inside of the housing had scratches on it.
I pulled off the turbine housing and got a shock. The turbine fins were CHEWED up from a previous apex seal going through them.
So...the turbo basically was useless...the bearings and seals needed replaced. the shaft and turbine wheel needed replaced, and the compressor wheel was questionable.
I called a master power turbo retailer/rebuilder and told him the situation...he advised me that I might as well buy a new one because the repair costs would meet or exceed that cost...$600.
I notified the seller, and he got defensive pretty quickly. He told me I should just sell the pieces to get my money back...I told him that the pieces were not worth much at all, plus it would take time and energy to sell them, and I shouldn't have to fool with this ****.
I wanted him to take the kit back, and give me a partial refund. I even offered (generously, IMO) to take the loss on the shipping cost from him to me, and from me back to him, and I offered to take $600 of my 700 back and be done with it. He refused and told me I was being unreasonable.
The way I added it up, the turbo, manifold, wastegate, and (shitty) downpipe were worth MAYBE $250-275 on a good day. He was offering me an additional $250 refund, but even after investing time and energy into selling the pieces, I would not break anywhere near even.
Finally he bitched and whined more and offered me $350 and told me to either take it or leave it. Obviously I took it, rather than running the risk of getting nothing at all. I let it be known I did not believe this was fair and that I was not happy with it. I did thank him and give him credit for at least staying in contact and making an effort.
I still do not see how he could not have known the turbo was trash...all it took was 10 seconds to grab the shaft and go "uh oh...". This is probably the worst worn/destroyed turbocharger I have ever layed hands on, so I dont really believe that "he didn't know" it was bad.
So far I have sold all the parts of the kit for the following prices (after shipping was paid for); this took 3-4 weeks to completely recover this much money, and I am still out $100 even after the seller's refund, plus my time and effort in listing, selling, packing and shipping the parts.
turbo core/downpipe: $100
manifold: $95
wastegate: $55
So I paid $700, got $350 refund, took time to document and sell these parts on my own, and still lost $100 for my trouble. And the seller says I am whining and being unreasonable.
07-27-07, 02:17 PM
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Yikes! Yeah, I'd say that is questionable...although, to be fair, most people won't take their turbo apart to see if something is wrong with it before selling it - they should, but they won't. He probably wiggled it a bit, and thought it was OK.
But yeah, that definitely sucks.
But yeah, that definitely sucks.
07-27-07, 02:24 PM
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Thats they kinda **** that scares me about buying anything on here these days.Honest people are hard to come by these days. Sorry...but i would've goten a full refund. Thats crap turbodrx7....man up and give the man a full refund ya greasy bastard.
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07-27-07, 04:01 PM
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You must have some strong *** fingers Kevin. You obviously ruined it by pulling on it like that. 
Love that he stated "it didnt have that much when it left here..."
Typical bull$hiter trying to cover it up. Sorry to see that happen to ya Kevin. Thanks for pointing it out so we'll all know not buy parts from him.
Love that he stated "it didnt have that much when it left here..."Typical bull$hiter trying to cover it up. Sorry to see that happen to ya Kevin. Thanks for pointing it out so we'll all know not buy parts from him.
07-27-07, 11:22 PM
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BTW here is the seller's original description:
"T-70 turbo setup. Ebay manifold, welds have been renforced(sp lol). Custom downpipe, turbonetics deltaII wastegate. Turbo has a little shaft play, is journal bearing so it is supposed to have a bit. It does not blow oil, or smoke of any kind, and spools and boost fine. $750+shipping for it all."
Another thing to note...this transaction happened several weeks ago. Why am I just now getting around to posting it? Well...even though I did not make an agreement not to post a GG/BG thread about the seller, I had decided that I would be more generous than usual because he did communicate with me and issue a halfway reasonable refund even though I voiced my opinion that I was not happy with it nor did I feel it was fair. I was still right on the edge of wanting to, though.
Later, the same seller made another FS post with some other parts. A couple days went by and I resisted the urge once again. Finally my smartass side got to me and I made a comment in his thread, which only HINTED at what had happened between us. Given most of the illiterate users of this forum, 95% of the people would not have picked up on what I was getting at anyway.
Now...this may just be the odd way I see things. But in my mind, if someone had "dirt" on me, I would tend to lay low, and unless they outright posted what I had done, I would pretty much let them make whatever comments they wanted, for fear of the truth being brought out into the open. IN other words I would cut them a wide latitude in order to keep from pissing them off further and getting my name drug through the mud. I would permit them small comments etc. to avoid a public display.
Not this guy. Once I posted a little comment in his thread, he starts raising a bitch fit telling me that I shouldnt be in his thread, pm'ing mods to whine that I am in his thread, sending me PM's telling me to either post a GG/BG thread or shut the hell up, etc. Bottom line, he dared me to post.
So, that is why I ultimately decided to do so...not only did he have the disrespect to screw me over in the first place, but he had the further disrespect to start **** with me afterwards.
"T-70 turbo setup. Ebay manifold, welds have been renforced(sp lol). Custom downpipe, turbonetics deltaII wastegate. Turbo has a little shaft play, is journal bearing so it is supposed to have a bit. It does not blow oil, or smoke of any kind, and spools and boost fine. $750+shipping for it all."
Another thing to note...this transaction happened several weeks ago. Why am I just now getting around to posting it? Well...even though I did not make an agreement not to post a GG/BG thread about the seller, I had decided that I would be more generous than usual because he did communicate with me and issue a halfway reasonable refund even though I voiced my opinion that I was not happy with it nor did I feel it was fair. I was still right on the edge of wanting to, though.
Later, the same seller made another FS post with some other parts. A couple days went by and I resisted the urge once again. Finally my smartass side got to me and I made a comment in his thread, which only HINTED at what had happened between us. Given most of the illiterate users of this forum, 95% of the people would not have picked up on what I was getting at anyway.
Now...this may just be the odd way I see things. But in my mind, if someone had "dirt" on me, I would tend to lay low, and unless they outright posted what I had done, I would pretty much let them make whatever comments they wanted, for fear of the truth being brought out into the open. IN other words I would cut them a wide latitude in order to keep from pissing them off further and getting my name drug through the mud. I would permit them small comments etc. to avoid a public display.
Not this guy. Once I posted a little comment in his thread, he starts raising a bitch fit telling me that I shouldnt be in his thread, pm'ing mods to whine that I am in his thread, sending me PM's telling me to either post a GG/BG thread or shut the hell up, etc. Bottom line, he dared me to post.
So, that is why I ultimately decided to do so...not only did he have the disrespect to screw me over in the first place, but he had the further disrespect to start **** with me afterwards.
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07-28-07, 10:52 AM
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I don't understand why you even felt the need to call this a "questionable transaction?" There's nothing to question here. TurbodRX-7 from the info you've given screwed you! If he was an honest seller he would've refunded you all the money or atleast enough to the point that you were satisfied. On top of all that, he's pushing you to post a GG/BG thread. WTF
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IMO start another thread and post "BAD SELLER/Possible Scammer: TurbodRX7". That will show him.....
???IMO start another thread and post "BAD SELLER/Possible Scammer: TurbodRX7". That will show him.....
07-28-07, 12:43 PM
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I have to completely agree, I don't see anything "questionable" about it. The only questionable thing to consider would be whether or not you kick him in the nuts first, or the head when you find him.
07-28-07, 01:58 PM
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lol...
Here is teh comment that started it all. Turbodrx7 has a sig pic of his FD inside a building beside a fire truck. In his second for sale thread, some guy made the comment "your sig is cool, an FD inside an FD".
At the time, my sig read something like "90 turbo II: would have been t70 powered but turbodrx7 fucked me on a junk turbo" along with the big pic of my blue FC below.
I went into his thread and posted,
"As long as there are no moving parts in these items, the buyer should be fine.
My sig is also cool."
Now, as I said, most illiterate readers of the forum wouldn't even pick up on that...only me and turbodrx7 knew about the bad turbo at the time, and most users would not read text in my signature, but would simply think I was talking about the picture of my car.
Hell, for that matter, most readers don't even scan the thread for replies anyway, they just read the first post and hit reply.
That's why it's so funny that he made a big deal out of my comment...it would have went unnoticed until he started talking **** in his own thread, and drew attention to me, away from his sales.
Here is teh comment that started it all. Turbodrx7 has a sig pic of his FD inside a building beside a fire truck. In his second for sale thread, some guy made the comment "your sig is cool, an FD inside an FD".
At the time, my sig read something like "90 turbo II: would have been t70 powered but turbodrx7 fucked me on a junk turbo" along with the big pic of my blue FC below.
I went into his thread and posted,
"As long as there are no moving parts in these items, the buyer should be fine.
My sig is also cool."
Now, as I said, most illiterate readers of the forum wouldn't even pick up on that...only me and turbodrx7 knew about the bad turbo at the time, and most users would not read text in my signature, but would simply think I was talking about the picture of my car.
Hell, for that matter, most readers don't even scan the thread for replies anyway, they just read the first post and hit reply.
That's why it's so funny that he made a big deal out of my comment...it would have went unnoticed until he started talking **** in his own thread, and drew attention to me, away from his sales.
07-28-07, 02:30 PM
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well now that the thread is made, before anyone jumps in and of course starts riding kevins nuts, as most people do ill explain the situation from a different side.
I listed the turbo kit in my original thread for $1100 BEFORE i had taken the turbo off. I took the turbo off, checked it out and relized there was shaft play. Right then i dropped my price to $700+shipping. Kevin Pmed me, asked about the turbo, had seen ALL the pics that were posted, and made me an offer. I accepted it, and it was off. First he didnt add 3% fee which is CLEARLY a fair amount of money on $700. So im down to 675. I then take the turbo to a shipping place as i dont have time, or materials to package things myself, and payed to have it packaged up. I payed $44 to have it packed and shipped. The guy always packaged things good in the past, and if not i could always make a claim as i get insurance on every package i ship. So im now down to $630. I take the manifold to a welding place to have it reenforced, as i said it would be, and payed $60 for it. Now that im done with that, i just made $570 on a FULL turbo kit, with EVERYTHING working. He got the kit, of course started bitching and complaining about how things "were not up to his standards". He saw pictures, and saw exactly what he was getting. Complaining about downpipe welds? Please, are the pretty police going to shine a flash light down your tranny tunnel and see them? The turbo made 400whp on 15psi, trust me, that downpipe flowed just fine. Now onto the wastegate, there was NOT an exhaust leak, the wastegate did have a adaptor plate, again, not "up to my standards" for kevin. It worked fine, obviously since you can tell it was used. I showed pictures of the wastegate, of the manifold, and of the downpipe in my thread. Now onto the turbo. I did not have any reason to pull the turbo apart, why would i? I saw the pics and was in contact with kevin the WHOLE time. Never did i not respond to his PM, or leave him in the dark about anything. I saw the turbo and offered kevin the refund of $250 as he stated. Kevin then told me, that he would like me to refund his $700-paypal fee, which would have put me out $130 dollars, and he would ship it back and was WILLING to lose the $100 from it all. I dont have a purpose for this stuff, i dont even have an FC anymore. Why would i want it back? He saw the pictures. He then told me if i payed for a turbo rebuild it would be fine. Yea, because im going to pay for a new turbo and you get a turbo kit for free. I woulnt think about doing that. I offered the $350 which is HALF of what kevin payed, and barly less than what i made off of it. Meanwhile kevin is attempting(very poorly i might add) to sway me to his side with his pms, and have me deal with the situation the way i see fit. Not going to happen. Now kevin got his $350 and i even added money for the paypal fee. Then he told the turbo for $110, made 100 off it, $450, sold the manifold for $95, $545 and then the wastegate for $55, $600. This is assuming you are actually stating the prices you sold the stuff for. Either way you would have been out the $100, you agreed to be out it if i refunded your money, so why are you complaing right now? You dont have a reason to make this thread, you shouldnt have posted in my thread int he first place, you can be happy with your signature and let it go. I shouldnt have given you anything back had i know this is how you would act. I gave you what i, and a few people i explained the situation to thought was fair. Its kinda hard buying a car to part without much info, because you never really know whats up with the car or parts. I have sold a TON of stuff on her, and had NO complaints, only the tool box kevin landers. Plenty of people know me, and plenty of people would buy things from me without thinking twice. Kevin obviously was seeing this as"hopefully this guy doesnt know what he is taking about, ill get a good deal and run with it". You dont get something for nothing kevin, it doesnt work that way.
rx7goomba-You dont know me, and responded with this very snyde comment before i posted my side, you should do some reasearch on both partys and mabye you will relize that kevin does like to whine a little more than most people.
str8ryd-You post made me chuckle, you obviously didnt read too much of it. scammer? LOL. That is too funny. bad seller, i dunno how you are coming up with that, a bad seller wouldnt have responded to PMS, refunded his money ASA kevin sent the Ok to do so. You have your opinion, but i am far from a scammer or a bad seller. Why wouldnt i push him to post it, i didnt do anything wrong, i wasnt about to loose money to make a guy that acts like him happy, i dont care who he is, or what he does, he is still a class A tool who was expecting something for nothing. It doesnt work that way.
I listed the turbo kit in my original thread for $1100 BEFORE i had taken the turbo off. I took the turbo off, checked it out and relized there was shaft play. Right then i dropped my price to $700+shipping. Kevin Pmed me, asked about the turbo, had seen ALL the pics that were posted, and made me an offer. I accepted it, and it was off. First he didnt add 3% fee which is CLEARLY a fair amount of money on $700. So im down to 675. I then take the turbo to a shipping place as i dont have time, or materials to package things myself, and payed to have it packaged up. I payed $44 to have it packed and shipped. The guy always packaged things good in the past, and if not i could always make a claim as i get insurance on every package i ship. So im now down to $630. I take the manifold to a welding place to have it reenforced, as i said it would be, and payed $60 for it. Now that im done with that, i just made $570 on a FULL turbo kit, with EVERYTHING working. He got the kit, of course started bitching and complaining about how things "were not up to his standards". He saw pictures, and saw exactly what he was getting. Complaining about downpipe welds? Please, are the pretty police going to shine a flash light down your tranny tunnel and see them? The turbo made 400whp on 15psi, trust me, that downpipe flowed just fine. Now onto the wastegate, there was NOT an exhaust leak, the wastegate did have a adaptor plate, again, not "up to my standards" for kevin. It worked fine, obviously since you can tell it was used. I showed pictures of the wastegate, of the manifold, and of the downpipe in my thread. Now onto the turbo. I did not have any reason to pull the turbo apart, why would i? I saw the pics and was in contact with kevin the WHOLE time. Never did i not respond to his PM, or leave him in the dark about anything. I saw the turbo and offered kevin the refund of $250 as he stated. Kevin then told me, that he would like me to refund his $700-paypal fee, which would have put me out $130 dollars, and he would ship it back and was WILLING to lose the $100 from it all. I dont have a purpose for this stuff, i dont even have an FC anymore. Why would i want it back? He saw the pictures. He then told me if i payed for a turbo rebuild it would be fine. Yea, because im going to pay for a new turbo and you get a turbo kit for free. I woulnt think about doing that. I offered the $350 which is HALF of what kevin payed, and barly less than what i made off of it. Meanwhile kevin is attempting(very poorly i might add) to sway me to his side with his pms, and have me deal with the situation the way i see fit. Not going to happen. Now kevin got his $350 and i even added money for the paypal fee. Then he told the turbo for $110, made 100 off it, $450, sold the manifold for $95, $545 and then the wastegate for $55, $600. This is assuming you are actually stating the prices you sold the stuff for. Either way you would have been out the $100, you agreed to be out it if i refunded your money, so why are you complaing right now? You dont have a reason to make this thread, you shouldnt have posted in my thread int he first place, you can be happy with your signature and let it go. I shouldnt have given you anything back had i know this is how you would act. I gave you what i, and a few people i explained the situation to thought was fair. Its kinda hard buying a car to part without much info, because you never really know whats up with the car or parts. I have sold a TON of stuff on her, and had NO complaints, only the tool box kevin landers. Plenty of people know me, and plenty of people would buy things from me without thinking twice. Kevin obviously was seeing this as"hopefully this guy doesnt know what he is taking about, ill get a good deal and run with it". You dont get something for nothing kevin, it doesnt work that way.
rx7goomba-You dont know me, and responded with this very snyde comment before i posted my side, you should do some reasearch on both partys and mabye you will relize that kevin does like to whine a little more than most people.
str8ryd-You post made me chuckle, you obviously didnt read too much of it. scammer? LOL. That is too funny. bad seller, i dunno how you are coming up with that, a bad seller wouldnt have responded to PMS, refunded his money ASA kevin sent the Ok to do so. You have your opinion, but i am far from a scammer or a bad seller. Why wouldnt i push him to post it, i didnt do anything wrong, i wasnt about to loose money to make a guy that acts like him happy, i dont care who he is, or what he does, he is still a class A tool who was expecting something for nothing. It doesnt work that way.
07-28-07, 04:23 PM
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How about he returns all the parts and you refund his money minus the shipping costs then? That seems reasonable.
"I have sold a TON of stuff on her, and had NO complaints"
Its not how many good transactions you've had on here....its the bad one thats gonna come back and bite you in the ***.
"I have sold a TON of stuff on her, and had NO complaints"
Its not how many good transactions you've had on here....its the bad one thats gonna come back and bite you in the ***.
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07-28-07, 04:43 PM
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All the parts have been sold, that is where kevin is out the $100 he claimed. I will be posting his PMS shortly where he stated he would take the $100 hit if i took the stuff back, $100 is $100, now or then is the same thing. We will let some people read both sides...
07-28-07, 04:53 PM
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turbodrx7, are you blind or something? the turbine side of that turbo is GONE. when did you blow your engine and shoot the apex seal out of it? people like you are why more and more forum members are scared to buy stuff on this fourm. kevin landers (im not associated with him in any way, nor have i ever met him) seems to be one of the most honest people on here and i would buy from him anyday! pics and video dont lie.
07-28-07, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Asshat that tries to pass off a junk turbo as something worth a ****
You say that like he is any better than any other person? Stay off his nuts for a little bit, please.
07-28-07, 05:50 PM
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Dregg-The better quesation is...are you blind? Do you not see that i refunded kevin HALF his money because the turbo was chewed up like that? Im not calling pics or videos a lie, i refunded money BECAUSE of those pics and videos. Please read my post, i stated i bought the car and parted it, so i didnt KNOW the condition of these parts, i have no idea if the motor blew a seal through it...People like me huh? Do a search on my name...you will relize one thing, first that you are an idiot, and second that MANY people have bought a TON of things from me, and never had a single problem. I have seen your posts many a time, and you sure do like to point fingers pretty quickly, and jump on peoples cases without knowing anything...read up bud.
K-you are not a very smart man, i feel as though i have lost intelligence after reading that post you just made...Kevin knows what he is talking about huh? Says who? Once again, you thinking kevin is god and riding his sack...If you knew about a turbo, a chewed up fine doesnt mean ****, the turbo can still spool, make boost and power with chewed fins. The turbo did NOT blow oil or smoke, as stated in the original thread(kevin showed). You say you would never want to buy anything from me over him, good im glad, i would rather not deal with worthless dumbass people like you. I take it you own an FC, and thats the main reason, because kevin sells good FC parts at cheap as prices, because FC guys never want to pay for anything name brand, whatever works right? I do buisness very rarely on this forum...and always have NO problems...i wasnt trying to fool anybody, i wasnt trying to pull a quick one. Trust me, if i wanted to scam him, he wouldnt have ever seen the turbo kit.
K-you are not a very smart man, i feel as though i have lost intelligence after reading that post you just made...Kevin knows what he is talking about huh? Says who? Once again, you thinking kevin is god and riding his sack...If you knew about a turbo, a chewed up fine doesnt mean ****, the turbo can still spool, make boost and power with chewed fins. The turbo did NOT blow oil or smoke, as stated in the original thread(kevin showed). You say you would never want to buy anything from me over him, good im glad, i would rather not deal with worthless dumbass people like you. I take it you own an FC, and thats the main reason, because kevin sells good FC parts at cheap as prices, because FC guys never want to pay for anything name brand, whatever works right? I do buisness very rarely on this forum...and always have NO problems...i wasnt trying to fool anybody, i wasnt trying to pull a quick one. Trust me, if i wanted to scam him, he wouldnt have ever seen the turbo kit.