RotaryResurrection

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I believe I stated this clearly at the very top of the thread.

I am not one of these guys that conduct an FBI interrogation on the forums when I am looking at buying some parts. As a seller myself, I hate to be questioned over and over again about a part I am selling, because if I say this is what it is, then that is what it is.
I guess I expect the same level of integrity from everyone else...not "buyer beware, you didn't ask the right 20 questions" or "you get what you pay for".

You're goddamn right. If I sell some **** on this forum, people tend to think that I should guarantee it for 11 years or 120k miles, and that it should be new, even if it is a 20 dollar part. It's annoying as **** for people to try and hold me to this high standard, but then when they sell something to me and I complain because it is shitty, suddenly it becomes "oh, well, you get what you pay for, it is a used part, it is not perfect" etc.

Do you know what would have happened if I had sold this same kit on this forum without explicitly stating it's condition inside and out? Immortal flaming hell would be raised just because I was the seller.

So don't throw that "he's just bitching because he's a superstar" card out...it is a 2 way street. If other buyers on this forum have a right to expect good parts from me, then I have a right to expect it in return.

A lot of the parts on my 90 FC are also used...17 years old to be exact. BUt they still are in far better condition than the junk I got from you. Used /= bad necessarily.

And it took me 3 weeks to sell that piece of **** wastegate. So ******* what? I shouldn't have had to worry about it to begin with.

Instead of you sitting there telling me how easy it would be to sell the stuff, you should have been the one doing the selling.

You just don't get it to you? Customer service is not simply staying in contact. It is actually telling them what they want to hear, even if means you as a seller are put out even more. I've lost my *** on deals before, even on engine warranties, because I stood behind my work, my parts, and my word.

I don't know how to respond to this. Perhaps that is the norm with your dealings?

RotaryResurrection

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Dude, you said that like 3 times, 10 posts ago.


I expect the same of any other seller as the buyers on this forum tend to expect of me. You want to know what that means? Go read some of my FS threads and see what kind of bullshit I go through. See the standard I get held to. If I were to sell something substandard (without stating it clearly as such in advance) on this forum people would be whining to high hell, smearing my name all over this forum, making my business look bad even if the sale had nothing to do with an engine.

Why shouldn't I expect my sellers to do the same?

Well, that sucks...you've been in the same position, so why would you choose to blame ME in this situation? When you bought that turbo, did YOU do anything wrong? What did you do to deserve that? Nothing, right? So why should it be your fault, or my fault, for getting fucked on the deal?

Its NOT.

Then you did the wrong thing and you felt the wrong way, IMO. Or, perhaps I just have the ***** to call my seller out over it, and hope to ensure that he watches his **** in future sales and no other buyers lose money and time.

turbodrx7

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You have ***** to call me out over it? You are sitting here having a god damn hissy fit over nothing at all. You crack me up...I guess you ran me off the forum just like every other person who has gone against you, lol. What a joke

RotaryResurrection

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Well, I think you have ***umed some things that are incorrect. I bought the kit for the turbo and the manifold, and I planned to re-do any of the rest that did not meet my standards. The only pic of the downpipe showed a nice weld at the top and a 90* mandrel bend...the other hackery and shitty welding was down near the middle/bottom which was not visible in the picture.

I could see that the wastegate was not something I really wanted to run from the pics, but I figured I'd make that determination when it got here. I did not know about the ghetto wastegate-to-manifold adaptor plate as it was not shown clearly in the pics.

I was going on the seller's description of the turbo, and externally it looked excellent. Again, this is the part of the kit that I was really paying for, along with the manifold. Had the turbo been okay, this thread would not have been here.

Yes, I did think 700 bucks was a fair deal for the turbo and manifold...and the other parts were just a bonus. TURBODRX7 is full of **** when he speaks of a 3000 dollar turbo kit above. You can buy a NEW t70 turbo for 600 bucks. You can buy a NEW SSAC manifold for 175 bucks. Explain how 700 for his "kit" was such a 'steal of a deal", even if it had been in good, useable condition?

I bought the kit figuring on the following values:
$25 for shipping, since the shipping was so shitty anyway
$100 for the used/repaired/rewelded SSAC manifold
$75 for the wastegate (before damage)
$50 for the downpipe
$450 for the turbo

As it turns out, the turbo and downpipe were completely worthless and the wastegate was rough. The manifold I got 95 after shipping for. The turbo I got $100 after shipping for. The downpipe I gave away with the turbo. The wastegate I got $55 after shipping for. I had to spend hours taking pics, making ads on the forum, responding to questions, packing and printing shipping labels to get rid of those parts...time is money and I lost time in selling those parts.

I got $350 from turbodrx7, so you do the math.

TURBODRX7 holds the opinion that, because I offered to take a $100 loss and send his junk back for him to do with as he pleased, that it is okay that I still took that $100 loss PLUS had to sell his junk for him, and he also still thinks that I should not be able to say anything to/about him on this forum relating to this deal.

He says it was so easy to sell those parts...then why didn't he want to do it himself? Yeah, I didn't think so...not as easy as he thinks.

I told turbodrx7 during negotiations that I was not satisfied with the $350 refund he offered and that I did not feel this was 100% fair, but I took it while he was offering it because $350 > $0 and it would have been dumb to do otherwise. I also continued to be disturbed by his attitude. As I said...most people have a sense of guilt that kicks in when they know they have wronged someone, but turbodrx7 showed none of this and continued to push me to start this thread. That is the main reason it is here...not only was the deal sour, but his total lack of remorse/guilt/acknowledgement of said sour deal.

Nowhere was I offered more than the initial refund, nor have I received anything extra.

Name calling? Show me.

Again...show me. You are mistaken. I have no idea where you came up with this notion of $50 extra.

Are your reading comprehension skills on the blink?

1) there was no $50 refund.
2) I lost $100
3) I lost time in having to photograph, list, answer questions, pack and ship the parts
4) I lost 2-3 weeks with no turbo kit on my car in the meantime
5) I never said I got scammed. In fact I clearly stated TO THE CONTRARY at the very top of the page, and I have not said otherwise since.

Again...I was really buying the "kit" for the turbo and manifold, and the other stuff was just a "bonus" if it was good, and "oh well" if not. But...none of it except the manifold turned out to be good.

I dont think there's any "argument" left...it's been proved conclusively.

Almost immediately after I informed him of the condition he became combative and defensive, and basically told me what he'd do and I could either take it or leave it. He refused to hear my side of things and actually acted as if I was trying to screw him over somehow...reverse psychology, to try and distract me from the fact that I just lost out.

XxMerlinxX

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turbodrx7

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I told turbodrx7 during negotiations that I was not satisfied with the $350 refund he offered and that I did not feel this was 100% fair, but I took it while he was offering it because $350 > $0 and it would have been dumb to do otherwise. I also continued to be disturbed by his attitude. As I said...most people have a sense of guilt that kicks in when they know they have wronged someone, but turbodrx7 showed none of this and continued to push me to start this thread. That is the main reason it is here...not only was the deal sour, but his total lack of remorse/guilt/acknowledgement of said sour deal.


If only you knew how pathetic you sounded right now. Want to know why i didnt feel guilt? Because i already gave you a hell of a deal, and then gave you half of what you payed back, and left me with under $200, i really should feel bad huh?

rx7roller02

and now, for my .02.....

First, it is the seller's responsibility to accurately describe what he is selling. Sending someone a picture of the top half of a part and not disclosing the poor condition of the bottom half of that part is poor service, period. I dont care who does it or what the part is worth....thats BS right there. If the seller here could not tell the difference between the two ends of that part and the condition of each, then he has no place being anywhere near an engine bay or a set of tools.

On the same point, telling RR that the turbo didnt have that much shaft play when you shipped it is pretty funny, considering that it went straight out of the box, and onto video, without being installed or used in any way.

turbod--you have said that you originally did not notice that it had end play, and then when you did, you were willing to accept his offer. Why, then, did your fs thread already have it listed at that price? Why also did you mention in that thread that it had a little shaft play? If you didnt know, you sure were mentioning it enough...this brings me to this comment from turbod:

If you got this as a parts car, exactly what was your knowledge concerning the actual performance of this turbo? Parts cars that make 400 hp.....wow, were can we all find those? And how exactly did you know that the turbo boosted fine, with no oil or smoke blowing out, when the car was a parts car??

Something else really sticks out on this one. This is from your fs thread as well, selling at the same time:

Let me ask you then--why would you need to take apart the turbo to see the condition of the hot side, to know that something was wrong? You KNEW this was a blown engine, you KNEW that the apex seals were chucked. Did you suddenly think that they magically passed through that turbo without hitting anything? IT IS THE SELLERS RESPONSIBILITY TO TELL THE TRUTH. You told him that he was getting a good turbo, with milimal shaft play, and that boosted fine. You knew you were sending a turbo that just ate apex seals. THINK....

Next....your FS ad clearly states that:

But here, you changed your story again.....this is a comment you posted in this GG/BG thread, earlier:

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=18

According to your FS thread, the welds were already reinforced, and the price was already at 750. For 750, it was "already reinforced". but then, in the post I just quoted above, you are whining that after you agreed to sell it to RR, you had to take it to get the welds redone?!?

First, they were already done, and your price reflected that condition. But then, you had to go have it done, because it wasnt already, and then you whined about the $60 it cost you. When you learn how to make up your own mind, please do let us know. Hell, this could have just been an honest mistake in your wording, but you need to learn that you are fully responsible for what you tell buyers. Its that simple.

Hell, even in your first FS thread, you mentioned that those welds were already done:

So at this point, if youre willing to not be straight about one thing, you can see where it cna raise concerns about other things.

OK, about the condition of the parts as he received them....I saw that you denied the exhaust leak. The pics he took are quite clear in the evidence that there most definitely was one. In the first pic that was posted at the beginning of this thread, the RTV is clearly seen. RTV is not a good sealant to use in an exhaust system that runs this hot....thats why they make gaskets for exhaust systems. And one more word about this turbo--you claimed originally that you had dyno sheets to prove 389 hp on 15 lbs boost. I am not doubting you. But--you then sold this turbo on the premise that it still makes that power. But you neglected to recognize the fact that the dyno sheet was done before the motor blew, am I right? So, BEFORE THE DAMAGE OCCURRED, that turbo made that power. Once you knew that it was a blown motor, you should have described things more accurately. That is on you, my friend, and you cannot chalk that up to RR wanting more than what he was promised.

For the record, since there seems to be a plethora of people in this thread that are showing way too much interest in discussing the sport of nut-swinging, I have not bought anything from either one of these guys, and I am just calling it as I see it. The rest of you need to take the E-gang war elsewhere and let these two sort this out.

turbodrx7

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Alright, my turn. I did not buy the car as a parts car, i bought the car for MYSELF, after doing some work on it, i came to find that was alot of evidence of an accident, along with going off the road(spare tire holder was flat on the bottom, frame rails were rusted and beat to all hell, rocker panels were very beat and not straight). At this time, i decided to part the car out to ATTEMPT to make my money back. Look around, it was just any other 400hp fc, which i ended up tearing apart. I assume you didnt read the thread with the next few questions. First, i stated earlier that i DID drive the car, and knew it boosted fine and all. I paid for the car, the motor then blew while he driving it after i paid. I got whatever back, and it was done deal. He told me he had taken everything off, and taken the turbo somewhere to be taken apart and looked at. They told him it was fine. I trusted the seller.

-Im taking it that you have never blown a motor. Motors dont HAVE to throw seals...In fact, according to the kid who bought my motor...2 of the rear seals were only cracked, along with a side seal. So this motor may not have caused the damage. I know the turbo was bought used to be on his car, so it may have been bought from a blown motor car. I have blown a motor recently, and threw seals, 3 and a corner seal to be exact, with NO turbo damage, nothing at all.

-The welds had not been reenforced yet, but if you have bought a ebay turbo manifold, it helps ALOT. Since they are very prone to cracking.

-Ok next, you messed yourself up, you had it going for a minute.

turbod--you have said that you originally did not notice that it had end play, and then when you did, you were willing to accept his offer. Why, then, did your fs thread already have it listed at that price? Why also did you mention in that thread that it had a little shaft play? If you didnt know, you sure were mentioning it enough...this brings me to this comment from turbod

That is your comment, 3rd paragraph of post 107. You stated that i didnt notice it at first, but did after. "why did your thread alread have it listed that price". That is the SECOND thread, and lower down you quoted the first thread. Your comment here is leading me to belive you had never saw my first thread. But lower down, you quoted it.

Kevin offered me $700 SHIPPED, when my price was 750 obo+shipping.

rx7roller02

and yet, by your own words, you then discovered shaft play when he told you there was none.....but you STILL trusted him even though you obviously knew that he did not tell you the truth at that point?? shame on you #1 right there.....

you and I both know that when those seals go there is NORMALLY some damage done. it usually happens. your experience is the exception, not the rule.

1--on two separate posts, you claimed that they already were. that isnt my fault or problem, it is yours. Not to mention, youre telling me that your buddy, the guy that had that work all done to get to 400 hp, slapped on a part that you all knew would fail, and then you trust him about the condition of the car....wow.

2--I dont really care whether or not those welds do break--you stated that it had a mani with the welds reinforced, and then you had to go get it done because you told a story that wasnt true. And again, thne you whined about the cost of doing so.

I didnt mess up anything. But you certainly have. So there was a 50 dollar difference, so what? You KNEW you had to get the welds redone, you KNEW you would have to pay for it....so the point still stands. Then, about the shaft play, you flat-out lied to him when he made a video! You KNEW the condition of that turbo when it left your hands, and he clearly never had a chance to install it and use it, so there is no way that he could have created more play on it, is there? And your reply to him was "it didnt have that much when I shipped it...." Well, it certainly did, because there isnt any way that it could have gotten worse when he didnt have the chance to make it worse!

So, let's recap this point--

1--you trusted your friend about the condition of the turbo, and tried to sell the kit for what, $1200 was it?

2--you then discovered that your friend did not tell you the truth about the play on that turbo, and that caused you to lose almost $500 off the selling price......

3--even though #2 took place, you trusted the guy enough on the internal condition of the turbo....even though that is one big fat red flag, you chose to treat it like it was nothing.

4--you then post pics of this kit up, knowing that the pic of that one part deliberately showed only the top of the part, and not the very different conditon of the other half of it.

5--Price was then 750, and RR asked you to take 700.....and you AGREED. But in this thread, you still whined all over the place about having to pay to redo the welds, etc etc etc. IF THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH MONEY FOR YOU, YOU NEVER SHOULD HAVE ACCEPTED HIS OFFER. But you did accept it, and then you whined about the cost of welds, shipping, etc etc etc. Would you like some cheese to go with that?

6--Items were very poorly packed, and arrived damaged. This is a no-brainer...you should have simply contacted the shipper and filed a claim. And yes, I know you wont want to hear this, but you as the seller were solely responsible for making sure that the kit was packed well and shipped porperly. Sure, you relied on someone else for that, but ultimately in this transaction you are responsible for that.

I am still baffled by the use of RTV in places where gaskets are required. There were enough reasons for you to question things, or at the very least verify the condition better than you did....and even with a blown motor, then discovering some play, then the RTV, then the welds, then the very visible exhaust leak....even with all of this, you chose to take his word for it. That's on you, pal. man up and deal with it already.


so what? DID YOU TAKE HIS OFFER?? Then you can STFU about it right there--if it wasnt enough you should have said no. You knew there was a problem with the end play when you lowered your price by almost $500. BUT--you then tried to cover your butt anyways when you said this:

NEWS FLASH--you know damn well that there was more than just "a little play"....like you siad yourself a journal bearing turbo is SUPPOSED to have a little play. So, are we to believe that a turbo that is supposed to have a little play, did in fact have "just a little play", and because of that you lowered the price by $450??? dude, give it up already, you got caught in your game. Face it like a man.

let's take a look to see what your problem really is here:

1--again, if there was really just "a little play" you would not have dropped that price so much.

2--did your pics show the fact that the downpipe was crap? No, they only showed the first foot or so of it, where it was 3", and in good shape. Funny how you didnt include any pics of the other end of that part, where it was now 2 1/2" and shitty. IT IS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOU TELL THE TRUTH FOR YOU....IT IS YOURS. You had the parts in your hands, you couldnt tel the difference between the condition on each end? If you couldnt, then you dont belong near car parts.

3--again, if your advertising was correct, this would have already been done. But it wasnt. You then had to make the part what you told everyone it already was. If you knew you had to do additional work to make the part what you claimed it was, it was your responsibility to adjust your price accordingly, or at the very least inform your prospective buyers about it. Who knows?? Maybe you would have been able to sell that kit to someone without that extra $60 expense, maybe someone would have just used a mani they already had, or do the welds themselves! YOUR FAILURE to properly advertise what you had for sale is what cost you the extra money, not RR, so stop the whining about it.

4--a "full turbo kit with everything working" is NOT a turbo in that conditon with that much play. It is also not a kit with RTV in place of gaskets, where the RTV has caused a noticeable exhaust leak. You then go on to say this:

'things "were not up to his standards"....'

This is NOT the problem here. The parts you shipped him were NOT UP TO THE STANDARD YOU PERSONALLY ADVERTISED THEM TO BE. This has nothing to do with "his standards". You tell me you have a turbo kit that is complete, works as it should, and makes 400 hp on 15 lbs boost....you take my money for it...and I find the parts in that condition, I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING THAT HE DID about it.

Here's the bottom line--you advertised those parts to be in better shape than they were. This was YOUR mistake, not his or anyone else's. You had enough red flags raised in my opinion that you should have checked further to make sure that you werent selling someon junk. And you still didnt check, even after you found more shaft play than you knew that turbo should have! THIS IS YOUR DOING.

Dont whine about the money--you agreed to his offer and no one forced you to. And when you agreed to it, you knew you would have to pay for the welds, pay for the shipping, and so on. SO STOP WHINING ABOUT THE MONEY.

Stop crying about "his standards" too. As I just showed, his standards were never the issue--the standards you used when you posted the FS thread, and how they differ from the actual condition of those parts, that IS the issue.

When you sell parts, you are the one responsible for how you advertise them, how you package them, how you ship them, and so on. You have yet to take any responsibility that I can see for any part of this, except to offer him a partial refund. While I give you credit for that, I dont give you much credit, because the entire transaction was based on you lying about the shape this kit was in! The only reason you needed to refund anything is because you did not describe the parts as they are. Anywhere else you go, that is called "false advertising". This isnt like something that was out of your control messed up the sale.....this was because of your actions.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, it's "your turn" now....

turbodrx7

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Dont whine about the money--you agreed to his offer and no one forced you to. And when you agreed to it, you knew you would have to pay for the welds, pay for the shipping, and so on. SO STOP WHINING ABOUT THE MONEY.

Everything you just typed is completely worthless...why? Because the only reason this thread is here is because of money, moron.

Also, why did you ignore my post where i blew a few of your worthless points out of the water? Right here...
That is your comment, 3rd paragraph of post 107. You stated that i didnt notice it at first, but did after. "why did your thread alread have it listed that price". That is the SECOND thread, and lower down you quoted the first thread. Your comment here is leading me to belive you had never saw my first thread. But lower down, you quoted it.

And it never showed up in your response...strange huh?

During that post, you stopped fighting the situation, and started fighting me. Your opinion here does nothing...

rx7roller02

then you should never have accepted his offer, should you have?? WHY BITCH AND MOAN OVER IT WHEN YOU CHOSE TO TAKE IT?? If it wasnt enough, wasnt it up to YOU to say something about it at that time?? BUT YOU DIDNT. You only whine about it after you got caught not telling the truth about the kit?? how very professional of you, my good man....

And NO, "moron", this thread is NOT only about money. It is about your dishonest attempt to sell parts. It is about you getting caught advertising parts in better condition than they are truthfully in.

Worthless, huh? Tell me something--why is it, in the FS thread, that we can no longer see the pics you posted of this kit, but we can see all the rest of the pics you posted in the same thread of the other parts? The pics and the condition of the parts is WORTHLESS in your eyes? I brought up a bunch of very relevant and well-stated points, and when you have no real answer for them, they are all of a sudden "worthless".....I hope you dont really think that passes as an answer to the legitimate points I mentioned, because it doesnt.

Thanks for proving all by yourself, with replies like this latest one, that to you, it was only about the $$$. The condition, being honest to your buyers, how to make up for your own mistakes, it's all WORTHLESS to you unless it's about the money. Your words, not mine!! Thanks for letting your true ethics shine through!!

Based on this whole issue, and the way you have conducted yourself, if you were the only place on earth I could get a part I needed to drive my 7, I would sell the car and get a yugo before trusting you with my money. And before you start whining about "I dont care" or "I have plenty of good feedback anyways", I could care less...it's the way you handle a problem that shows people what youre made of. And you handled this one like ****, to be honest.

Good day to you.

rx7roller02

it still baffles me that you had more than a couple major red flags about this deal, and you still didnt do much to check it out. The entire car was not what your buddy told you it was, apparently, because you didnt find out that you were going to part it out until you took delivery of it and looked under it yourself! Up until that point you planned on keeping it for yourself...

Also--

Who the hell builds a 400hp FC and doesnt even put a fuel filter on it?? Thats a pathetic short-cut if ever I saw one. And again, things like this should have been a reason to dig deeper. If this person can cut corners like a fuel filter, and RTV in place of gaskets, what else could they cut corners on?? HMMMM....

no worries, youll just reply and call me a "moron" again, and tell me that this information is "worthless" too....

turbodrx7

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You are quite the character...READ. I already explained this, many times. I bought the car BUILT already, and parted it after finding frame damage. Hell, you said it yourself 5 lines up.

turbodrx7

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rx7roller02

um, hey dumbass, I was not referring to you there--I was referring to the guy that built that car up. The guy that you know, the one you got the car from, the one that you took the word of when it came to the condition of the turbo.....

In other words, if HE could take short cuts like that and not think anything of it, WOULDNT THAT TIP YOU OFF THAT HE MAY HAVE TAKEN SHORT CUTS ELSEWHERE THAT WERE DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT YOU WERE SELLING?? But NO, not you....you then found that there was play in the turbo--and even THEN, you trusted his word. SO....you ended up with a half-assed car, that blew the motor because of the guy's own friggin stupidity, and you trust his word:

1--AFTER you see the condition of the underside of the car
2--AFTER you learn that he half-assed it and intentionally ran a high performance engine with no fuel filter
3--AFTER you see that there is excessive play in the turbo, even though he(yes, the guy you trusted) told you it was checked by a shop and was fine

And if that wasnt enough:

4--AFTER you ship it out and the buyer sees more play in the shaft than he has ever seen in a turbo--and he builds these engines for a living!!

Yeah, when he told you it was bad, you argued with him. You told him and still maintain that the turbo was good! Even after all those clues? NEWS FLASH--youre an idiot

is it sinking in yet why I posted that, or are you still perpetually retarded on the matter? Quit being stuck on stupid

rx7roller02

No, actually, it isnt. Kevin even gave you credit fore the refund you did give him. This thread is about you lying and getting caught, you advertising parts for sale in better condition than you KNEW they were in. Thanks for playing.

So, you fucked him by lying about the condition of what you sold him, then you tell him to go resell the parts himself....and after you did him raw like that, you have such a stick up the pooter that you cant even just let him use the pics?? You really are something....yeah, using those pics would have caused you such tremendous harm....youre a real piece of work.

Why?? Simple--because you cried like a bitch about the costs you knew from the start this would make you incur....

1--you whined about the welding, but you advertised the part was already welded, so you fucked yourself on that one, chief.
2--you whined about the cost of packing, shipping, and insurance. You knew you would have to ship it out, didnt you??

ON THE OTHER HAND, Kevin was promised a turbo setup that was used, but still plenty good. HE DIDNT BUY IT TO PART IT OUT. He bought it to USE IT. He went through the extra time and effort to part it out BECAUSE YOU FUCKED HIM OVER. He lost that 100 BECAUSE YOU FUCKED HIM OVER. See the difference? You incurred costs that you knew you were going to incur, and took it upon yourself to make that happen. Kevin THOUGHT he was getting this in much better shape because you lied to him, and your lie directly caused the result he complained about.

You went into this knowing that you were going to have to spend that money and do those things. And you whine about them.

He went into this transaction expecting precisely what you told him, got burned because of your stupidity, and then as a result had to settle for losing $100, and wasting time parting out your junk. he did NOT enter into this deal with you expecting or deserving to deal with any of that.

That about clears up your latest crybaby crap. And to think, people like you always spend all this time acting like a little girl. It would be so much faster and easier, and take less effort, if only you would just stand up like a man.

FrankV702

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This guy is a complete moron. Hes trying to play dumb Roller. He knew this **** was bad, he's just trying to pin it on RR. Who the hell drops there price $500 or however much it was because they found "a little shaft play that journal bearing turbos are SUPPOSED to have". For you to say that junk is useable and is RR's fault for buying it like that because the price that YOU accepted was a "steal" is kind of like me advertising an engine for sale with a blown apex and advertising it as "runs". The engine will still start and run, not very good at all, but it will. Then when it shows up and is complete **** and the buyer calls me on it, I turn around and say, "Hey, you bought it for a steal and besides, I never said it ran like ****, I just said it ran." Its the same **** your pulling here and blaming it on RR because he has "high standards" of his parts being in useable condition (thats what you advertised it as). Just own up to your own responsibilites. Thats all it takes for this to be done with. What a moron, and you have the ***** to call other people "tools" because they point out the obvious.

MADDSLOW

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Failed elementary English?

turbodrx7

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If anybody you are the one "acting like a little girl". You are not very smart since you are calling me a dumbass because you are talking to someone who is not even on these forums, much less in this thread.

Juiceh

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MADDSLOW

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D... final answer...

I just hate it when someone ridicules a person's education, when their writing clearly shows flaws in their own.

RotaryResurrection

iTrader: (8)

well, this has certainly gotten interesting.

<----- continues to sit back and enjoy the ownership.

Your only argument is that I am whining because I lost money.

Everyone else's argument is that 1) I lost money through no fault of my own, and 2) you are a dishonest seller.

Come up with something new already...the same thing over and over is getting old.

Juiceh

iTrader: (4)

That's nice. I pointed out that someone was a delusional and dishonest seller with **** for customer service. You point out a grammatical error. Thank you for your contribution to the thread.

Sorry I don't run the grammar checker for everything I post.

MADDSLOW

iTrader: (11)

Anytime

rx7roller02

SURPRISE--youre a retard!!

Where was I talking to someone who isnt on this forum, jackass?? I was telling YOU that YOU put YOUR TRUST into SOMEONE ELSE who half-assed his car...and I further said that YOU had plenty of red flags not to trust THE OTHER GUY, who just so happens to not be on this forum.

In your eyes, that is talking to someone who isnt even on this forum?

WOW, youre a moron....

I called you a dumbass because I questioned the know-how of that person....and then I questioned your intelligence because you had plenty of clues as to his lack of smarts under the hood. And from that, you FIRST claimed that I thought you built that engine.....which makes you, yes, YOU, the dumbass just as I stated.

Do we need a recap, a special class just for you??

1--the guy that built the car told you the turbo was good.
2--he wasnt even smart enough to include a fuel filter on his 400hp rotary build.
3--retard then blew his engine.
4--you then took his word that everything was fine, despite the fact that he is a complete dipshit when it comes to cars.
5--SURPRISE--everything turned out to not be fine.

6--I then called YOU a ******* dumbass, because YOU took the word of an ignorant *** when he couldnt even get his build to last more than 500 miles due entirely to sheer stupidity.

You bought the car. You thought you were getting a steal. Then you looked at the frame and found all kinds of damage that your pal didnt tell you about. That's one red flag. Then, you learned about how he blew the motor, with no fuel filter--that's two red flags. Then, he claimed the turbo was checked by a shop and was good to go....until you found shaft play that he claimed it didnt have. That's THREE red flags. Then we have other things like the RTV(FOUR red flags). And on top of all that, you trusted his word, even to bitch at RR when he showed you proof that you screwed him!

And to top it all off, as if you havent shown enough absolutely point-blank stupidity up to this point, you try to accuse me of thinking you built that engine. AND THEN, even more--you then think I was talking to that guy?!?

Dude--hang it up. You couldnt fall any further backward at this point. You just made a complete *** of yourself for no reason. Reading owns you. Common sense owns you. And from the look of this thread, I just owned your *** too. Get lost, chump. Maybe you can go play with your sister's dolls or something, because you obviously have no clue about these cars. Who in the world doesnt see the problem in not using a fuel filter on a high performance rotary engine??

oh yeah, by the way, when I ask questions like that, they are rhetorical, which means I am not specifically expecting an answer or directing it at you, because the answer should be obvious. That is where you failed--twice--in trying to tell me what I was attempting to do. hell, you couldnt even get that part right on two tries!!!

Thanks for playing, and have a nice day.