He listed a WTB thread for a power plant frame. I said I'd send him one for 110. He says can you do better. I say 95 is as low as I can go. He says give me a day or two to see if he can get a better deal. I say no worries. A couple days later he says he'll take it.

He receives the part and tells me I sent him the wrong part. Apparently he wanted the cross member. I say send it back for a full refund less shipping and 20% restocking/handling fee. Why the handling fee? If you've shipped a PPF you already know He goes on about why the fee. I say it's a bitch to box, tape isn't cheap and it's a 20 minute job to deliver it to the UPS store. He says are you serious, you're bitching about boxing etc.... I'm thinking WOW this dude is lucky I'm even accepting a return. Finally I loose patience and tell him sorry you can't return it. He cusses me out LOL.

See PMs:

are u still charging me the 20% or what? and yes clearly I'm not happy with this deal, I didn't get what I need and now I'm being charged a 20% "restocking" fee from a private seller?!? that's kinda bogus if u ask me man

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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
OK

Send back the PPF for a full refund less 20% restocking/handling plus my shipping cost.

Sorry you don't think my time dealing with this part is worth 20 dollars. Clearly this isn't a sale either of us are happy with and that's too bad but sometimes that's the way it goes. Lots of people wouldn't even let you return it especially private party individuals like myself.











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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
im bought one locally already... im picking it up tomorrow



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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
paypal 100 and return the PPF back and I'll send the cross member.




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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
come on man really.... are u really going to complain to me about making a box and wrapping it with tape..... its not like im asking for alot of money back it really wasnt alot but in my situation right now that little bit is effecting me. come on man, help a brotha out. it was a miscommunication error on my part because when i think power plant frame, i think engine frame ....( powerplant = engine to me )


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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Imagine how I feel

1/2 hour to custom box it and 20 minutes to take it to the UPS store, oh and lets not forget about the 1/2 roll of 5 dollar tape. Those bastards at 3m are making a killing

If I was you I'd keep it and sell it to the next person that needs one for 110.





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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
I have to pay shipping to return it, loose $25 for u to ship it plus a 20%!!! that's over $60 lost right there, can u wave ur "fee"

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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
That part is called the cross member some folks might called it the engine subframe.

I can send the cross member for 175 shipped.

You can send the PPF (power plant frame) back to:


Once I receive it I'll refund you less shipping and 20% restocking/handling fee.



Send

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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
hey

i got the package today, buuuut thats not the part that i needed, i need the frame where the motor sits not the frame that is attached to the diff. can i send this back and get a refund or do u actually have the frame i need?

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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Tracking Number:
1Z2904720397425732

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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
payment sent

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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Hey Tony,
My paypal is: rx7parts@comcast.net

It should ship tomorrow UPS ground.

Thanks,
Fritz

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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
hey


i think im going to buy urs, whats ur paypal, if i pay tonight whats the fastest u can get it out to me?

my shipping is


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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
that sounds fair, can u give me til weds to give u my final decision.

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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Shipping will cost about 25. 95 is the very best I can do otherwise it's not worth fooling with. Hopefully that will be low enough for you.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Toyotarx7
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
115 shipped

paypal is: rx7parts@comcast.net

Thanks,
Fritz

is that the best price u can do?
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After I had lost my patience and told him a return would not be accepted this is his reply: u know what bro, go f... urself, keep the f...ing money! karma is a bitch and you'll end up paying double for it in the future! go cry about u wasted tape and ur "custom" box

I replied:
That's exactly what I'd expect from you and you're right about karma.

 

The customer is NOT always right. You did everything you could Fritz (not that you need me to hand job you), some people are lucky they remember how to breathe. People never cease to amaze me lol

 

What's even more outrageous he gives me bad feed back so now my perfect rating is tarnished. I guess that's what he meant by bad karma

No apology for wasting my time or even the least bit of concern for my position, classic PIA buyer.

 

This makes me shake my head for a few reasons:

one, this guy is giving the state of NJ a bad name.

two, these engine swappers aren't even member of this community--- this is a site for rotary enthusiasts IMO.

When you contribute nothing to the community, just come on here to post one thread beating your chest about your wonderful swap, then use the classifieds to buy drivetrain parts for your non-rotary car..... well, that rubs me the wrong way. PLUS, he got what he paid for. If you don't know anything about your car, and ask for a PPF but wanted something else, that's YOUR fault.

I've also shipped PPFs before and know them to be a pain in the *** too

 

Hey I watch Jersey Shore and NJ completely rocks If only we had a fist pump smilie.

Wake up the "roller" and lets keep VA beautiful we like being 100% clean. VA is for lovers not haters.

 

Actually he is contributing to the community..As a customer and friend to toyotarx7, hes been building my car and is almost 100% complete, and has done EVERY SINGLE OUNCE of work on the car. Has Given me and other guys GREAT deals... I hate to hear someone bash about such a great guy. Probably the most honest "car" guy i've ever dealt with in my life, and there are many people who can say the same.

nothing in life is ever going to be perfect. It sucks to hear that all this was because someone uses a different term for a specific item... i've had bad experiences with good people on other forums just for the fact the clarity in description wasn't there. Assumptions were made here.

 

This should of been a simple return with a big apology for asking for the wrong part but when dealing with Tony it's him calling me a cheap bastard (in so many words) then cussing me out. Sorry but tony should of taken responsibility for his actions instead of showing his ill behavior.

Then to top that off he leaves me negative feedback LOL. If anyone deserves negative feedback or bad karma it's him not me. However poor Tony doesn't see it that way and that's the root of this problem. It has little to do with car parts.

 

Anyone who has been here and contributed to this forum would know that your name is clean Fritz.

 

Why didn't he request pictures? I've bought a few things from Fritz 1 of which i wasn't 100% sure on i request pictures to confirm what i was getting.

Also if it was the shipper that screwed up it should be on them they made the mistake. In this case it was the customer that screwed up.

 

so you are letting someone work on your car where it seems that he cant tell the difference between a PPF and a cross member.....hmmmm interesting

 

Terminology has nothing to do with Tony's amazing detailed oriented work. I hope you are not making assumptions without first viewing his build thread. EVERYONE on the engine conversion section of this forum knows Tony and his work. In my personal opinion ( which this thread and topic is opinionated ) The "power plant frame (PPF) is wrongly used. Any other Aspect of the word frame is used when describing an enclosement of something. The "PPF" as you guys call is is essentially a torque arm!

the front subframe, engine craddle, cross member. bla bla bla. Again, clarity was the issue here. I bought some items from flitz and he did a awesome job of selling them. but i think the restocking fee is honestly is little much. I understand we live a capitalist society, but really... Being a REAL LLC i could understand that charge, but a private sell it was ( come on...) . i believe if tony is willing to ship it back, then that should have sufficed the situation.

 

Yeah i have to admit you are right. stupid rx7 owners for calling a torque arm a fancy name that is completely wrong. stupid all of you !!!!!!! only 2jz swap people have the privilege to know the right terminology

 

i never said it was "technically" wrong just giving MY opinion... just people use different terms for different items. Northerners say winter hat, southerns says tobaggon.

anyways.. im sorry to hear toyotarx7 and flitz had a bad expirence, and yes i think both of you could have done more to have helped each other. and a clearer statement of what was wanted should have been made. They are actually both great guys, since i've delt/deal with both of them.

 

wow........ it never stops to amaze me how quickly people jump up to bash some one as soon as one is under the light or even butt in to something even tho its none of their business, a lot you dont know me or have never dealt with me to even have an opinon about me, and to say i dont contribute is a little over stated, simply because i dont post every little thing i know about the FDs on here doesnt mean im not contributing, a lot of people have reached out to me about wiring, swaps, suspension, and custom fab work and ive never turned anyone anyone nor have charged a penny for share my wisdom with them. as a matter of fact just recently i helped a fellow 1jz swapped guy over the phone in Illinois on how to get his engine started, after 3 hours or so he was driving his car and a simply thank you was more than enough for me. simply knowing ive helped someone and gained a friend makes me feel better about myself.

and to say i give NJ a bad name....thats a little harsh since i was born and raised in jersey and am a new jerseyian ( but w/e to each its own ) personally i think the tv show gave NJ a bad name.

and for my fellow engine swappers ( LSx, 1jz/2jz, RB, SR, ect ect ) we ARE a part of this community as much as the rotary guys, this is an RX7 club, not a rotary club. it clearly states it here.
https://www.rx7club.com/other-engine-conversions-non-v-8-118/everyone-read-other-engine-conversion-forum-rules-400819/

we all have rx-7s so in a sense we are all the same so to say a part of the community isnt a part of the the rx7 family simply because you dont like the idea of a piston engine in the RX or simply because its not your style, doesnt make you right. the rx7 is awesome weither it has a rotary or a boat motor, its doesnt matter we are all part of the community as a whole, thats a big part as to why the RX community even has an existence


and finally fritzflynn..........
you know what man i am sorry, i am sorry that i flipped out on u and cussed u out for such a stupid reason, i lost my temper .... 99% of the time im cool and calm, ive taken loses on the chin in the past and just brushed them off and looking back now ( regardless of the negative itrader and this thread ) it was wrong on my part, i should've asked for a pic if i was unsure and even have asked you. sorry i wasted your time, trip the ups and your tape, if i could go back in time and stop myself from loosing it, i would, but the deed is done, and what happened happen, your right, this should have been a simple return but got out of control quickly. but like mopar says, no one is perfect. but we are all adults and all make mistakes from time to time and i hope you can accept my apology and can just put everything behind us.




i hope that all the rude and unnecessary comments will STOP despite what you think, this was a dilemma between fritz and myself which i hope now can be squashed, everyone else really has no room to comment or speculate due to the actions taken. if you have something rude to say, keep it to yourself.....

 

very nice ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

I was basing my previous comments off of those negative PMs you sent Fritz, one of the best sellers on this forum.

I'm glad you changed your tune, and have more respect for you after your most recent post

PM me if you want to discuss the issues with advertising in your conversion thread, if you can play by the rules I will reopen it pending discussion by the mod team.