theo481 sent wrong item.
he knew he sent the wrong item though. and like roller said " you thought you were going to get a bonus on it" and he replied " duh ". i would not send anything out unless i know for a fact that is what the buyer wants, i would never try to get a bonus out of ripping someone off, since he asked for something else and you sent it out without telling him its not the same item ....
the buyer didn't read, if i spent the time to pack and ship an item then was expected to eat another $5-10 in shipping and waste time trying to relist the item, well then i'm out a few hours of my life dealing with the issue and 5-10 out of my wallet because someone can't take the time to read the listing.
i wouldn't refund it either, theo's offer to refund $15 after the buyer sells the pod sounds more than fair, it was his mistake in misreading the thread.
i would have second guessed it if i was offered more than asking price but i HAVE had that happen before to secure an item, more than a few times.
i wouldn't refund it either, theo's offer to refund $15 after the buyer sells the pod sounds more than fair, it was his mistake in misreading the thread.
i would have second guessed it if i was offered more than asking price but i HAVE had that happen before to secure an item, more than a few times.
THEN the jackass pm's me this...
'wtf
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Dude,
Blow it out your ***. Seriously. It's ***** like you that make this place cancer.
**** off from my thread
Theo '
Whatever dude... Posting on a forum makes it public... You don't like it you should have handled the situation correctly before it became a public matter. ANYONE with half a brain would have written the buyer saying Hey dude... I was asking 50 and you offer 85, whats up with that.... Stop making yourself look worse and pay the guy and politely ask for this thread to be locked.
I've often paid more than asking price, but only after agreeing to asking price and then I add a little extra to paypal to cover the paypal costs for them.
'wtf
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Dude,
Blow it out your ***. Seriously. It's ***** like you that make this place cancer.
**** off from my thread
Theo '
Whatever dude... Posting on a forum makes it public... You don't like it you should have handled the situation correctly before it became a public matter. ANYONE with half a brain would have written the buyer saying Hey dude... I was asking 50 and you offer 85, whats up with that.... Stop making yourself look worse and pay the guy and politely ask for this thread to be locked.
I've often paid more than asking price, but only after agreeing to asking price and then I add a little extra to paypal to cover the paypal costs for them.
i just usually give my initial hypothetical reply without taking things like that into account, giving both parties the benefit of the doubt where the buyer did obviously make a mistake where the seller may not have realized. it's also doubtful that someone is going to send an additional retainer fee for an item that isn't rare(at least that i know of, i didn't check the thread to see if this was some custom made low quantity handmade gauge pod).
Roller, will you please lock this thread. While I appreciate any and all responses, it is just a feeding ground at this point. I already agreed to refund the money, please lock it unless there are more issues. Thanks
I asked you to stay out. You aren't helping anyone in here. I don't see how it is a WTF? I don't need to hear more from anyone about this. It is being taken care of.
TBH I didn't know anything was up... I did think I was going to make an extra buck, but who wouldn't have though that? I messed up, justammie messed up. We are taking care of it.
No I did NOT.
But would anyone ask you for a part you weren't selling??? I wasn't ripping anyone off. I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE ITEM HE WANTED TO BEGIN WITH. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN ME ASKING YOU FOR ITEM X YOU HAVE AND YOU SENDING Y.
We were both at fault, but I will take to the death that I did not know that I was sending the wrong item.
This is 100% accurate, and this is exactly what I though was happening. I did not know that anything was being done wrong.
THEN the jackass pm's me this...
'wtf
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Dude,
Blow it out your ***. Seriously. It's ***** like you that make this place cancer.
**** off from my thread
Theo '
Whatever dude... Posting on a forum makes it public... You don't like it you should have handled the situation correctly before it became a public matter. ANYONE with half a brain would have written the buyer saying Hey dude... I was asking 50 and you offer 85, whats up with that.... Stop making yourself look worse and pay the guy and politely ask for this thread to be locked.
I've often paid more than asking price, but only after agreeing to asking price and then I add a little extra to paypal to cover the paypal costs for them.
'wtf
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Dude,
Blow it out your ***. Seriously. It's ***** like you that make this place cancer.
**** off from my thread
Theo '
Whatever dude... Posting on a forum makes it public... You don't like it you should have handled the situation correctly before it became a public matter. ANYONE with half a brain would have written the buyer saying Hey dude... I was asking 50 and you offer 85, whats up with that.... Stop making yourself look worse and pay the guy and politely ask for this thread to be locked.
I've often paid more than asking price, but only after agreeing to asking price and then I add a little extra to paypal to cover the paypal costs for them.
from theo's responses i'm pretty sure you are right and he did know something was up but wanted the money more than handling it professionally.
i just usually give my initial hypothetical reply without taking things like that into account, giving both parties the benefit of the doubt where the buyer did obviously make a mistake where the seller may not have realized. it's also doubtful that someone is going to send an additional retainer fee for an item that isn't rare(at least that i know of, i didn't check the thread to see if this was some custom made low quantity handmade gauge pod).
i just usually give my initial hypothetical reply without taking things like that into account, giving both parties the benefit of the doubt where the buyer did obviously make a mistake where the seller may not have realized. it's also doubtful that someone is going to send an additional retainer fee for an item that isn't rare(at least that i know of, i didn't check the thread to see if this was some custom made low quantity handmade gauge pod).
he knew he sent the wrong item though. and like roller said " you thought you were going to get a bonus on it" and he replied " duh ". i would not send anything out unless i know for a fact that is what the buyer wants, i would never try to get a bonus out of ripping someone off, since he asked for something else and you sent it out without telling him its not the same item ....
But would anyone ask you for a part you weren't selling??? I wasn't ripping anyone off. I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE ITEM HE WANTED TO BEGIN WITH. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN ME ASKING YOU FOR ITEM X YOU HAVE AND YOU SENDING Y.
yes, if it were me i would probably start getting upset as the seller is right now also. 85 bucks isn't the same from one person to the next so that is irrelevant completely. 85 bucks to a homeless person would pay for a fifth of whiskey and a nice hotel room for the night, as well as a 5 dollaer hooker, lol.
the buyer didn't read, if i spent the time to pack and ship an item then was expected to eat another $5-10 in shipping and waste time trying to relist the item, well then i'm out a few hours of my life dealing with the issue and 5-10 out of my wallet because someone can't take the time to read the listing.
i wouldn't refund it either, theo's offer to refund $15 after the buyer sells the pod sounds more than fair, it was his mistake in misreading the thread.
i would have second guessed it if i was offered more than asking price but i HAVE had that happen before to secure an item, more than a few times.
plain and simply i wouldn't accept any monetary loss on my part for something of this nature, may even request a restocking fee for my lost time if the buyer was purely against selling the pod himself.
so saying he should refund the $85 keep in mind the seller did have to fork out for initial shipping to the buyer, i wouldn't accept that simply because of a clerical error on the buyers part in a listing with a gauge pod that really does have a similar name. i have people give me different names on items ALL the time because, well, we are all different and think differently.
but to the seller, it is a good idea to hold the money on items at least until the item is recieved and is acceptable to the buyer. i see it far too often that the money is long gone even 5 minutes after the transaction is made before the item even leaves the seller's hands, for that i almost feel like you should be reprimanded and take some form of loss here.
the buyer didn't read, if i spent the time to pack and ship an item then was expected to eat another $5-10 in shipping and waste time trying to relist the item, well then i'm out a few hours of my life dealing with the issue and 5-10 out of my wallet because someone can't take the time to read the listing.
i wouldn't refund it either, theo's offer to refund $15 after the buyer sells the pod sounds more than fair, it was his mistake in misreading the thread.
i would have second guessed it if i was offered more than asking price but i HAVE had that happen before to secure an item, more than a few times.
plain and simply i wouldn't accept any monetary loss on my part for something of this nature, may even request a restocking fee for my lost time if the buyer was purely against selling the pod himself.
so saying he should refund the $85 keep in mind the seller did have to fork out for initial shipping to the buyer, i wouldn't accept that simply because of a clerical error on the buyers part in a listing with a gauge pod that really does have a similar name. i have people give me different names on items ALL the time because, well, we are all different and think differently.
but to the seller, it is a good idea to hold the money on items at least until the item is recieved and is acceptable to the buyer. i see it far too often that the money is long gone even 5 minutes after the transaction is made before the item even leaves the seller's hands, for that i almost feel like you should be reprimanded and take some form of loss here.
Last edited by mar3; Mar 13, 2011 at 09:25 PM. Reason: Merged back-to-back posts...
so someone asks for a part you dont have yet you send the part that they didnt ask for anyways ?
makes sense right ? he asked for one thing and you sent the wrong thing ( you didnt have it in the first place so you should not have took his money ) makes you seem like all you care about is money. too bad you have to give it back
makes sense right ? he asked for one thing and you sent the wrong thing ( you didnt have it in the first place so you should not have took his money ) makes you seem like all you care about is money. too bad you have to give it back
Hopefully this is the last item on this thread before it gets locked:
I did at no time think I was doing anything wrong. This was a very simple mistake, he asked me for a part, and when I was requested for that part, I though the extra money was a small bonus + shipping costs.
I was selling these parts because I do not have any LIQUID CASH. That is the only reason. So yes, I did take that money out right away and use it for the things that I needed at the time, regardless of weather or not it was parts for my car, or gas money.
No matter what ANYONE says, I did nothing intentionally to ****/rip/anger anyone (off). I did mess up, and I did admit it. Justammie admitted it that he messed up too. It is settled as far as HIM AND I (and roller) are concerned. I'm sending him the money when I get my refund and he will send the part back in the meantime.
It was a simple mistake. It is a simple remedy. It IS being taken care of.
If I get banned for this post, so be it. I am speaking the truth and nothing but the truth, and I don't want to keep defending a simple mistake on our parts. Like I said earlier, I am taking care of it as soon as I can.
Thank You for all of your comments and criticisms. This kind of mistake is a 1 in 10 million mistake. I have all good feedback from any and all of my previous buyers/sellers so it is also obvious that I am not in the market to rip people off, or cheat anyone.
Theo
Seriously.
Stop.
Like a few people have already agreed, the names are VERY similar. Tripower pod and Tri-pod are very similar. I don't think anyone is PM'ing you for a Model A are they? Why would anyone PM me for something I wasn't selling?
I DO care about money, quite a bit actually, and I respect the hell out of it.
If all I cared about was money, and not my name here, would I have bothered responding to any of this? or even agreed to pay him back? no, probably not.
JUST AN FYI, I CAN'T REFUND THE MONEY THERE ISN'T A CHOICE TO REFUND IN UNDER THE PAYPAL DISPUTE SINCE IT IS A CLAIM I CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL APRIL 2nd
Any help? What should I do now?
I did at no time think I was doing anything wrong. This was a very simple mistake, he asked me for a part, and when I was requested for that part, I though the extra money was a small bonus + shipping costs.
I was selling these parts because I do not have any LIQUID CASH. That is the only reason. So yes, I did take that money out right away and use it for the things that I needed at the time, regardless of weather or not it was parts for my car, or gas money.
No matter what ANYONE says, I did nothing intentionally to ****/rip/anger anyone (off). I did mess up, and I did admit it. Justammie admitted it that he messed up too. It is settled as far as HIM AND I (and roller) are concerned. I'm sending him the money when I get my refund and he will send the part back in the meantime.
It was a simple mistake. It is a simple remedy. It IS being taken care of.
If I get banned for this post, so be it. I am speaking the truth and nothing but the truth, and I don't want to keep defending a simple mistake on our parts. Like I said earlier, I am taking care of it as soon as I can.
Thank You for all of your comments and criticisms. This kind of mistake is a 1 in 10 million mistake. I have all good feedback from any and all of my previous buyers/sellers so it is also obvious that I am not in the market to rip people off, or cheat anyone.
Theo
so someone asks for a part you dont have yet you send the part that they didnt ask for anyways ?
makes sense right ? he asked for one thing and you sent the wrong thing ( you didnt have it in the first place so you should not have took his money ) makes you seem like all you care about is money. too bad you have to give it back
makes sense right ? he asked for one thing and you sent the wrong thing ( you didnt have it in the first place so you should not have took his money ) makes you seem like all you care about is money. too bad you have to give it back
Stop.
Like a few people have already agreed, the names are VERY similar. Tripower pod and Tri-pod are very similar. I don't think anyone is PM'ing you for a Model A are they? Why would anyone PM me for something I wasn't selling?
I DO care about money, quite a bit actually, and I respect the hell out of it.
If all I cared about was money, and not my name here, would I have bothered responding to any of this? or even agreed to pay him back? no, probably not.
JUST AN FYI, I CAN'T REFUND THE MONEY THERE ISN'T A CHOICE TO REFUND IN UNDER THE PAYPAL DISPUTE SINCE IT IS A CLAIM I CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL APRIL 2nd
Any help? What should I do now?
Last edited by mar3; Mar 13, 2011 at 09:26 PM. Reason: Merged back-to-back posts...
I'm not going to rip on you anymore, you've said you're going to fix it, let's just see how long it takes. The reason I was stating you're lucky to not be banned already is your attitude to a mod and your posting in public towards him. THAT was a stupid move and Roller's been pretty cool about it. I could care less what you say to me in pm's... BUt don't cry when I show it to people also talking in the same thread.
Mods i dont mean to interrupt this thread and im sorry for posting but i just posted something that seemed odd to me, that someone clearly just trying to make a buck agreed to ship something that the buyer did not ask for in the first place, if someone asks for a tripower gauge pod and you send him a tri sport, well clearly that is not the buyers fault but you already both settled this so i applaud you both.
Mods i dont mean to interrupt this thread and im sorry for posting but i just posted something that seemed odd to me, that someone clearly just trying to make a buck agreed to ship something that the buyer did not ask for in the first place, if someone asks for a tripower gauge pod and you send him a tri sport, well clearly that is not the buyers fault but you already both settled this so i applaud you both.
All out Freak!
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I dont know how much more clearly I need to say this...
IF YOU ARE NOT THE BUYER, THE SELLER, OR A MODERATOR, DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD. IF YOU DO, I WILL BAN YOU WITHOUT ANY FURTHER EXPLANATION. IF YOU CANNOT READ THE PREVIOUS WARNINGS YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS POSTING IN THIS THREAD ANYWAYS.
Can you guys hear me now?
Karack---this is not the first time I have had to ask you to cool it in these threads. Being a vendor does not entitle you to ignore the requests of moderators when it comes to this section. I will NOT warn you another time. I have been more than lenient with this. It will NOT continue. I certainly do believe I have made my point.
theo--I dont care what anyone has said to you--DO NOT EVER LET ME CATCH YOU FIRING OFF ABUSIVE PMs AGAIN ON THIS FORUM. If you have an issue with the way someone has treated you, YOU CONTACT ME ABOUT IT. Dont EVER let me see that crap happening again. Next time it does, youre outta here. Jhereq did not say anything to you that warranted such a response. You are an adult, I expect you to start acting like one.
pnoy--stay out of this thread from now on. It takes one post to state your viewpoint. After that you are only arguing. You have no dog in this fight. Do yourself a favor and keep it that way.
There does not need to be one single post in this thread until buyer and seller have an update. The next person that posts other than buyer, seller, or mod staff, will be banned. Case closed.
IF YOU ARE NOT THE BUYER, THE SELLER, OR A MODERATOR, DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD. IF YOU DO, I WILL BAN YOU WITHOUT ANY FURTHER EXPLANATION. IF YOU CANNOT READ THE PREVIOUS WARNINGS YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS POSTING IN THIS THREAD ANYWAYS.
Can you guys hear me now?
Karack---this is not the first time I have had to ask you to cool it in these threads. Being a vendor does not entitle you to ignore the requests of moderators when it comes to this section. I will NOT warn you another time. I have been more than lenient with this. It will NOT continue. I certainly do believe I have made my point.
theo--I dont care what anyone has said to you--DO NOT EVER LET ME CATCH YOU FIRING OFF ABUSIVE PMs AGAIN ON THIS FORUM. If you have an issue with the way someone has treated you, YOU CONTACT ME ABOUT IT. Dont EVER let me see that crap happening again. Next time it does, youre outta here. Jhereq did not say anything to you that warranted such a response. You are an adult, I expect you to start acting like one.
pnoy--stay out of this thread from now on. It takes one post to state your viewpoint. After that you are only arguing. You have no dog in this fight. Do yourself a favor and keep it that way.
There does not need to be one single post in this thread until buyer and seller have an update. The next person that posts other than buyer, seller, or mod staff, will be banned. Case closed.
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No, I will not lock this thread.
And the next time I hear of you sending a PM like this to anyone on this forum, you'll be banned about five seconds later.
Edit: looks like roller and I will be fighting over who gets to ban you..... quite an enviable position to be in, lol.
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Dude,
Blow it out your ***. Seriously. It's ***** like you that make this place cancer.
**** off from my thread
Theo '
And the next time I hear of you sending a PM like this to anyone on this forum, you'll be banned about five seconds later.
Edit: looks like roller and I will be fighting over who gets to ban you..... quite an enviable position to be in, lol.
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Dude,
Blow it out your ***. Seriously. It's ***** like you that make this place cancer.
**** off from my thread
Theo '
Last edited by GoodfellaFD3S; Mar 14, 2011 at 12:04 AM.
I hope once this is all said and done, you guys aren't still flipping coins to see who gets to make the cut :/ I'm just tired of people blowing their mouths' off in here without any reservation, and without knowing the entire situation.
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Ok, heard you loud and clear. Thanks for at least telling people to stay out of here.
Now, on to the bigger issue, I can't refund him. It doesn't give me an option to on the dispute since it is now a claim, what would you like me to do at this point.
Theo
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Ok, heard you loud and clear. Thanks for at least telling people to stay out of here.
Now, on to the bigger issue, I can't refund him. It doesn't give me an option to on the dispute since it is now a claim, what would you like me to do at this point.
Theo
[QUOTE=theo481;10515657] I did mess up, and I did admit it. Justammie admitted it that he messed up too. It is settled as far as HIM AND I (and roller) are concerned. I'm sending him the money when I get my refund and he will send the part back in the meantime.
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Theo481, your item will be ship out with signature confirmation once I receive the refund.
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Theo481, your item will be ship out with signature confirmation once I receive the refund.
[QUOTE=justaimme;10516119]
That is not how it works, even if paypal does rule in your favor, paypal would require you to ship it first. So I'm sorry, but I can't do it that way.
Please mail the item to:
Theodore Bhagyam
700 College Drive
SPO 156
Decorah, IA 52101
I did mess up, and I did admit it. Justammie admitted it that he messed up too. It is settled as far as HIM AND I (and roller) are concerned. I'm sending him the money when I get my refund and he will send the part back in the meantime.
QUOTE]
Theo481, your item will be ship out with signature confirmation once I receive the refund.
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Theo481, your item will be ship out with signature confirmation once I receive the refund.
Please mail the item to:
Theodore Bhagyam
700 College Drive
SPO 156
Decorah, IA 52101
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 7,855
Likes: 517
From: Behind a workbench, repairing FC Electronics.
Yes, the buyer didn't read the sale thread properly and didn't ask enough questions, but once you become a vendor, you're going to get a LOT more of that. Customer service goes a long way, especially in a small community like ours. Once you become a vendor, you're kinda expected to hold hands with your customers and spoon feed them to maintain a 100% positive feedback score.
And now that they're out here, anyone searching for your name will find them.
Diligent customers will be searching.
And as you see, it only takes one customer that's made a mistake to put it out in the open.
From one Theo to another.
Last edited by Pele; Mar 14, 2011 at 01:12 PM.
All out Freak!
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Theo--
I have no problem with him sending the part to someone else that is buying it, as long as it gets the ball rolling on getting his money back to him sooner. I see no reason for him to ship the part to your next buyer so that you can keep the money from that sale, all the while he would still be left hanging. So, in a case like this, it would only be fair if the money was sent to him as part of his refund, and then he could send that part to your buyer. Why should he help you sell your part so that you can keep the money and he is still left waiting? I hope you can see what I mean.
If you are willing to do that, then my recommendation would be for him to send out the part to your next buyer. If not, then you cannot ask me to try to get him to ship out a part so you can profit like that. For the sake of everyone involved, it would simply work out better for all, including you theo, if you agreed to that.
I have no problem with him sending the part to someone else that is buying it, as long as it gets the ball rolling on getting his money back to him sooner. I see no reason for him to ship the part to your next buyer so that you can keep the money from that sale, all the while he would still be left hanging. So, in a case like this, it would only be fair if the money was sent to him as part of his refund, and then he could send that part to your buyer. Why should he help you sell your part so that you can keep the money and he is still left waiting? I hope you can see what I mean.
If you are willing to do that, then my recommendation would be for him to send out the part to your next buyer. If not, then you cannot ask me to try to get him to ship out a part so you can profit like that. For the sake of everyone involved, it would simply work out better for all, including you theo, if you agreed to that.
Roller,
If he is going to spend the money shipping it to me, wouldn't it be better to spend the money shipping it to the guy/gal? and just send it to the person that wants to buy it?
OHHHH I see what you are saying:
Here is the issue, I can't refund him. Paypal will not give me an option to even send anything to him right now. I am 100% unsure of what to do at this point. There is no refund him option in either the claim or the transaction itself. Paypal right now has a -82.XX on my account right now. I think that if I got sent money (for the same pod) that it would just stay in the account?
That money would go to justammie, if that was the question, which I'm thinking it was...
lmk
If he is going to spend the money shipping it to me, wouldn't it be better to spend the money shipping it to the guy/gal? and just send it to the person that wants to buy it?
OHHHH I see what you are saying:
Here is the issue, I can't refund him. Paypal will not give me an option to even send anything to him right now. I am 100% unsure of what to do at this point. There is no refund him option in either the claim or the transaction itself. Paypal right now has a -82.XX on my account right now. I think that if I got sent money (for the same pod) that it would just stay in the account?
That money would go to justammie, if that was the question, which I'm thinking it was...
lmk
I may have overlooked it somewhere in the thread, but what is the status of the Paypal claim filed against you? Having a negative amount in your account suggests that ~$82 was given to justaimme by Paypal. If that's the case, you now owe Paypal the money, or you'll start getting phone calls from debt collectors.
justaimme, has the dispute closed, and have you had funds transferred to your account?
justaimme, has the dispute closed, and have you had funds transferred to your account?
I may have overlooked it somewhere in the thread, but what is the status of the Paypal claim filed against you? Having a negative amount in your account suggests that ~$82 was given to justaimme by Paypal. If that's the case, you now owe Paypal the money, or you'll start getting phone calls from debt collectors.
justaimme, has the dispute closed, and have you had funds transferred to your account?
justaimme, has the dispute closed, and have you had funds transferred to your account?
Paypal dispute has just been closed.
Theo481, I will shipping the item to
Theodore Bhagyam
700 College Drive
SPO 156
Decorah, IA 52101
on Thursday since that is my day off.
Theo481, I will shipping the item to
Theodore Bhagyam
700 College Drive
SPO 156
Decorah, IA 52101
on Thursday since that is my day off.