Supernaut

iTrader: (83)

I know this argument is sort of over but I just wanted to give a quick suggestion...

-I think a fair resolution in this situation would be for the buyer to reimburse the seller for shipping the product in the first place and also ship the product in question back to the seller
-seller will then refund the money (the refund could of course be with the difference with shipping)

That way, the buyer has the original product back with no loss of money and with the loss of the sale and the seller loses shipping money. Lose-Lose for mistakes on both their parts. This seems like epic fail to me though.

The offer on the table from the seller (partial refund) is sounds much better. justaimme, I strongly suggest you take the offer. It is very fair and in the end works out the best for both of you. Buyer keeps his sale loses some money, you will probably end up even or just a little under.

Theo, I do think you are partially to blame here though.

If you see something amiss you have to make it clear, especially in the beginning. If the seller knew what he was buying and just felt remorse, this is of course totally on the seller but to be fair, I think he did make it totally clear that he was expecting a prosport even if it was once before the sale.

This should have clued you in that something was odd as well. I'm shocked at how justaimme got things so mixed up but I really feel like you could have prevented this. I'm not saying you are a bad seller, you have an awesome attitude towards this whole ordeal but I do think that you are partially to blame.

justaimme, I think the price of the pod is so cheap that in the end, its not worth shipping back. Sell it, recoup your money and get that partial refund. Do the math my friend. It is the best solution for you.

If the mods think my post is useless, I apologize.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

Hey man, if the mods don't I do!

I agree with you on every point. It was partially my fault for not clarifying what he was buying. But when I am selling two gauges, and one is a tripower and i get asked for a tri-pod it is kinda similar in name and just accepted the offer and tbh, i had never heard of a tri-pod before this issue. I had to google it, and then I found out it was a triple gauge pod. This angered me even more, I have always been very good in providing pictures and providing FULL descriptions that it mind-fucked me how it was even remotely possible to confuse what he wanted with what I was selling. I mean why in gods name would you ask a dude who is selling two dual gauge pods for a triple gauge pod!?!?!

We can ALL also agree that if justammie would have actually read what I was selling, or if he is unable to read, at least look at the pictures that I had taken, none of this would have happened in the first place.

Here are the choices as I see it:

1. I refund you 17 bucks, you sell the pod for 50+shipping. This nets you a loss of 17 dollars in the whole deal, we both take 50% responsibility.
2. I refund you everything except 10 dollars and you send the pod back for another 10(shipping). You will then net a loss of 20 bucks.
3. We wait PayPal's decision, drag this on a month and in the end you realize that you had just wasted an entire month where you could have sold it off by then.

Justammie, the offer will stand until PayPal makes their decision. If they rule in my favor I will not refund you anything, not because I didn't want to, but because you have wasted all of this time for me.

Again, I am requesting you to please accept one of my propositions.

Supernaut

iTrader: (83)

Haha thanks man I hope I don't get in to trouble.

So you got $85 on the deal right?
$10 of that was to ship was it?

You were selling the pod for $50 on the thread. Shipping would be the same so lets say $60 shipped is what he should have paid for it if actually wanted what was being sold.

$85 - $60 = $25 profit from the mistake

I think maybe at least $25 to him seems more fair. That way you didn't actually profit from his mistake and justaimme has to spend the extra time selling what he has and lose shipping when he sells the piece for $60 (he loses $10 for the initial shipping charge). If it were me, I'd ask him for the receipt when he ships out to the seller and split that or just throw him another $3 - 5 bucks.

Theo gets his original $50 ($10 for shipping to justaimme) and lost on some shipping to the new buyer
justaimme sells for piece for $60 (net 0 at this point because of the original transaction) and lost on some shipping to the new buyer and loses some time in the process of selling.

I think that would be the most fair if you guys are dividing the resposibility equally, this is all assuming justaimme can sell that pod for $60.

I think in the end though, this isn't much money to obsess over haha. I lose way more in just poor planning and reselling unused parts.

justaimme

iTrader: (13)

GoodFellasfd3s, I agree that is why I did a paypal dispute, and whatever the judgement is, then that is that.
That $85 is not much to me, it's just what made me went this far was the whole experience of the transaction.
Buyer promise that his parent will shipped right the item after I paypal. It took him a week to ship. Then finally, after waiting 2 week, item is not what I asked for. Wouldn't you be ****?

justaimme

iTrader: (13)

Supernaut, I agree with your reason.
I would pay the shipping fees to return the item to the seller. The seller would then refund me: 85 - w/e I pay for shipping. Since the shipping should be the same since it took 1 week to arrive by usps, the cheapest way.
Example: It cost me 6$ to ship item back to seller, then seller should refund me 85-6 = 79$

I don't want the item if it's not what I asked for, so I will not sell the item even if I lose the paypal dispute but I crush it for pure satisfaction.

justaimme

iTrader: (13)

Theo, I do not want your item. My proposition is above, you do not lose anything and still get your item back. I will even reimburse you for your shipping. So in total, I am down a couple dollars, but so what, I don't want the item.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

Well it's too bad then, and here it rests. Good luck man. This offer is the only option at this point:

1. I refund you 17 bucks, you sell the pod for 50+shipping. This nets you a loss of 17 dollars in the whole deal, we both take 50% responsibility.

For some reason, unbeknown to me you think you are at no fault here, and this is why i refuse to bargain with you, you want me to take all of the brunt, which will not happen.

Thanks for the input Supernaut, and hell, even trying to get justammie to accept something other than "his way or the highway."

I do hope that people see, just for their sake, how you deal with sellers and that they refuse to sell you parts in fear of paypal disputes and unreasonable buyers. Good luck on this forum, and godspeed man, you're gonna need it.

This thread does nothing but help me in my position, I tried to accept 50% fault, I tried to deal with you regarding YOUR mistake and I even made progress as to what I feel I owed you, as a seller I have gone above and past my duty to take care of you, and you still refuse.

At this point this looks like a positive feedback for me!

Again man, good luck.

Theo

justaimme

iTrader: (13)

It's kinda of funny man. I am returning the item to you, even pays for your shipping cost in the beginning.

Theo41 benefits:
Get the original item back
Get his shipping money back
Lose nothing in the end.

Myself:
Return an Item I did not ask for.
Reimburse seller for shipping cost and incurred shipping cost for sending item back.

Yet, Theo41 will not agree.

Theo41 method: 85-17 = $68, seller still makes an $18 profit with an item he only wanted $50 for.

In the end, Theo41 main purpose is that he do not want his item being sent back to him, since the item will not EVER sell for 85shipped. Reason it was sold for 85shipped was because I ask for a PROSPORT, NOT A TRIPOWER.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

Yes I do, a sale... Is that nothing to you? I got rid of a part I didn't want, that is something to me....
Dude, for the last god damn time. It is not 100% my fault.
You offered me 85 dollars for my pod as far as I was concerned. TAKE SOME ******* RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR MISTAKES! I AM!
No **** Sherlock, why would I want something back that I was trying to sell to get rid of?

And just a note to self for you: Don't PM random people for parts that are similar to what they are selling. Tri-pod and tripower are the ******* same in my book, like I said earlier, I didn't even know what a tri-pod was until this stupid **** came up.

Also, it is quite obvious that English is not your native language, your grammar and sentence structure is akin to a 10 year olds'. Please learn the following:

How to read advertisements.
How to speak English.

I am going to make changes in your post, in red, to show you proper form.

justaimme

iTrader: (13)

Quote " I got rid of a part I didn't want, that is something to me...." So you decided to skim my PM and sell me a tripower instead of the Prosport Tri-pod I requested.

I offer you $85 for your Tripower?? I am sure that PM I quote in the first post clarify that I asked for a Prosport Tri-pod, not a Tripower.

So everyone please note, this seller is out their to make a profit and he is willing to screw any buyer over just to achieve that.

Yes, my english sucks, but you understand my point. And I am sure, my first PM to you is crystal clear:

"want to buy your prosport tri-pod, 85shipped to 92683? "

Proof of this pm is in the first post.

rx7roller02

Theo, the next time you cannot control yourself, do not post. There will not be another warning. YOU BOTH screwed up, so dont talk down to him like he's some kinda dog.

I have sat back and tried to let you two work this out. Apparently, you cannot do so. So now I am going to step in. By the time I get back from work today, if you guys do not have an agreement hammered out and in progress, I will. This is pure nonsense and I wont let it drag on another minute.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

I skimmed your PM more than you actually read the ad!

You got the Tripower, not the ATI one, right??? If I really *was* trying to screw you, why didn't I sell the one that no one was asking for or even interested?? Weird, huh?
Yea so crystal clear I didn't understand you. I never said that you didn't ask me for that. I am blaming you because you, for absolutely NO reason, PM'd me for a part you wanted, and that I didn't have?!?!

Supernaut

iTrader: (83)

Theo I hate to break it to you but your offer isn't both of you taking 50% resposibility. It is you splitting the profit of justaimme's mistake with justaimme. You actually lose nothing and gain quite a bit. For you to not profit from his mistake, you have to give back the difference of how much you would have made if you sold the pod for $50 + shipping. For you to take partial resposibility, you have to chip in for the shipping cost to the new customer justaimme will have to sell to.

If it were me, I would have given justaimme the difference immediately and then decided from there what to do. In my mind, it is the LEAST you could do. I really think being fair is you splitting the shipping cost to the new customer. If you check the numbers in my last post you will see. It all works out.

Theo, this thead makes both of you look bad, more so you. Your insults to justaimme look unprofessional. Don't go there man.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

I never talked down to him, I swore at "him" because I am frustrated as hell and this is insane that it is taking this much effort to try and get a point across.

If someone was trying to blame you for everything, wouldn't you be frustrated with him/her too?

What do you want from me? I am honestly asking... I don't think that I should be taking 100% responsibility for both of our mistakes. I also don't feel that he should take 100% responsibility either.

I messed up, I'll be first to admit it (as far as my bad comments). I came back from a night of drinking to a post from justammie still not trying to accept any blame or fault. I was pissed and angry, and I said some things I shouldn't have. I am sorry and usually never resort to that. But I can not stand the ignorance he is displaying. He does need to take responsibility for what he did.

Now to address the offer, I get what you are saying that I should not be taking profit of more that what I was asking for. But here is the problem, and I still just might not understand, but the 17$ refund I was offering was in no way or form related to the extra profit that I had received. It was a division of the remaining "balance" of what he paid - what he could sell it for. If I refund him 25$ (85 minus shipping and the "profit" I received) he will not be taking any of the responsibility of what happened. If I refund him 1/2 of the 25$ (the 17 I suggested) then we will both take fault for the mistake.

Justammie, sorry I was as ***. I shouldn't have been but you are driving me up a wall. If you can, please pick from the following 3 options:

1. I refund you 65 bucks, you send the pod back, you lose 20 bucks, but don't have to deal with selling the pod back. You will cover the shipping back to me as well. *THIS CANNOT HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY, I DO NOT HAVE THIS MUCH MONEY RIGHT NOW*
2. I refund you 20 bucks, immediately and you sell the pod by yourself, you will lose 15 bucks this way.
3. We wait paypal's decision.

Please let me know your decision.

If you have another proposition, please lay it out here, but please make darn sure that you account for the fact that you also did make a mistake. But I can tell you right now, you telling me to fully refund you and then you send the pod back is not a fair proposition.

I hope I did the math ok, if not please correct it.

Supernaut

iTrader: (83)

In all of your scenarios, you never address what you lose. This is a good clue that ultimately, it is not fair. You guys both made a mistake and you guys should split the loss for fixing it no?

Lets assume shipping is $10

If I think about it your way, you are saying that justaimme sells the pod for $60. He is at a loss for $25 + $10 shipping. So you are saying that loss is split between you guys right? This isn't true. In this case, he is shouldering all of the loss. He loses $25 + $10 - $17 (your refund). You just gain $25 - $17 = $8. I wouldn't call this paying for your mistake because that pod is worth $60 shipped and you made out with $68.


Now if you refund him $25, he still has something he didn't want in the first place but now has it at the correct asking price (still a loss but less of a loss I suppose). Where he loses money is when he ships out to someone. He will lose his shipping cost now as well.

So lets say you refund him the $25...

Theo sells the pod for $60. $10 of that is for shipping leaving $50 in your hands. Your happy because you sold the pod for how much you advertised.
Justaimme has the pod he must sell -$60 bucks he used to buy it.

Justaimme finds a buyer for the pod and sells it for $60. He is now at $0 but he has to ship the pod out for $10 to the new guy. He loses $10.

Do you see how even if you refund him $25 he is still at a loss?

In the end, you should NOT have more than $60 because that is what you asked for originally.


I am suggesting you split the loss of the $10 with him. This is ultimately the fair thing to do and I think you should help him sell the pod to if you can.


IF you want to keep it simple, you should let justaimme ship the pod back to you and you should refund him $85 ($85 - shipping cost).

In this scenario,
You lose shipping cost to him ($10)
He loses shipping cost to you ($10)

It is a choice of do you guys want to lose shipping costs or half of the shipping cost and wait for a buyer. In the second case, justaimme loses more but it is best for both of you. If I were the buyer here, I would take option 2 because I hate selling stuff I don't have to.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

I really don't get it... The way I am looking at the fact that since he offered 85 I'm entitled to that full amount was because, at the time, he had seen other people wanting to buy it so maybe he offered a bit more... IDK that is just my reasoning.

I don't want the pod back, so I guess I'll offer a 25 dollar refund and that will then give me what I was asking for?

Ultimately, it will come down to a blame game.

Why did he PM me, why didn't I proofread his offer, why didn't he read the forum after I said triport sold (but still wrote on there because I didn't ship in immediately).

Justammie, I'll refund you 25 bucks, and that should end all of this.

Super and roller does this seem ok? I don't want the pod back, I was selling it to get the money together to finish my trans swap, and then the dreaded "missing a part" came up and I spent the last of my funds trying to find the last few parts. So I really don't have the money to refund him, nor do I want the pod back.

I'll send him a list of the people that PM'd me (if i didn;t delete them), and on the forsale thread there are a few people asking for it on there.

Theo

Supernaut

iTrader: (83)

I don't think you are entitled to the $85 because everyone else that PM'd you would not offer you $85. They would offer you $50 + shipping. This isn't ebay you know what I mean? Now one is going to bid up the price.

If you don't want the pod back, what is ultimately the fairest in my mind is that you both take a small loss. If I was justaimme and I wanted to reach a fair resolution, I would want $25 + part of shipping. He might. Who knows. Remember, that $25 figure was assuming $10 was how much it cost to ship. In reality it may be a little more.

You are forgetting. You don't need my approval my friend. You need the approval of roller and justaimme. I'm just trying to help out man. You can take my advice or not. Roller may just tell you something totally different. All I know is that you don't want to get on his bad side man.

I really hope you guys reach a fair and satisfactory arrangement. Pimpin ain't easy!

rx7roller02

wow.....I think it is time for an education....

THEO, here is how this is going to work. You will accept the fact that you both made mistakes. You will ALSO stop playing guessing games as to why he sent you the amount he did. Here's a simple fact--you offered something for sale at $50 and he obviously was not thinking of the same part you were because he offered you more. What you SHOULD HAVE DONE AT THAT POINT was clarify his request. But you said NOTHING. You obviously thought you were gonna make a little bonus on the part. That is NOT how we do things around here. Dishonest, to say the least. You were gonna take that money and say nothing, How do I know? Because it is exactly what you did.

So here's how this goes down. You will refund him the money he paid you. And he will send back the pod. And before you speak, pay attention.....you got his $85 and you already spent it. You got to enjoy the use of that money. So it is no longer up to him to sell the part to recoup his money. It was a mistake, and any other time, the two parties would simply agree to return for a refund and go on with life. Why should he have to recoup his money by trying to sell the part when you both messed up to cause this? You say "that would be unfair" to refund him, but in truth it is the one and only fair thing here.

You need to refund him his money, and he needs to send you back the pod. You told him that he should be able to sell it pretty easily, so you should likewise have no trouble selling it yourself....should you?

Oh, and I dont want to hear about how you dont have the money. Just yesterday, you came across a thread where someone is parting out his FD, and you offered to buy the whole car instead of having him part it out. And on top of that you are in the middle of a manual swap on your automatic car--that is not ever a necessity, which means you are choosing to spend that money on that project. If you can spend $370 on a project for your car, and if you just asked about buying someone else's non-running FD, and hell, if you own an FD yourself, then I find it quite hard to believe that $85 is such a major issue. FDs are not cheap cars to own. They generally require more specific maintenance than the average car does.

Here is you, asking if the guy wants to sell you his whole car:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-parts-99/95-vr-auto-rx-7-a-945130/

If you refund him money that you were not entitled to anyways, then you have lost nothing. But If you keep ANY PORTION of what he sent you, then HE loses. Not acceptable. So, heres the deal.....you will refund him the total he sent you. He will ship back your pod to you. You can then sell your pod on here, since so many people were asking you about it. We're gonna take this back to where it went wrong to make it right. And Paypal is a joke, they usually only enforce anything if it was a sale on ebay. Once in a while I see them do right in deals like this but not usually.

Thats the offer. I left this like I said to see if you two would hammer it out and be done with it, but you have been too busy mocking and insulting him to care. I highly suggest you take the offer....its the best one thats gonna be available here.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

Getting one, Luther College... Ever heard of it? P.S. Maybe you should follow your own advice I did... No I won't. Duh? Dishonest? No. and true dat, I didn't say anything. That's not being dishonest.
Shoot, too late Yup.Debatable... Wrong again. You ever heard of restocking fees?
No, and that would be dumb without his money :S Yes, and probably not, but I'm not going through the trouble, again.
That's too bad, I really am broke (98 dollars to my name - 53 from gas today ) You heard of automotive loans? Yes, yes I am, it is necessary, you ever driven an automatic FD? My tricycle is faster off the line, and yup I AM choosing to spend my money on that, it is my money you know... Stalk me much? See auto loan above I'll give you my bank account login, then you can tell me how you get 85 dollars out of 45 and you will be my hero. Dang, wrong again. I got mine for 3500, fixed it for 60 bucks, and am in process of a manual swap for 370. That is pretty damn cheap. At least I think so. Yea they do, damn cars. Nice find!!! So it is 100% my fault? O.o that's not good. See above response for my offer. "Thank god for paypal dispute" -justammie on my FS thread In your discoveries of my wtb car, and wtb a manual swap. You *should* have checked to see if justammie had EVEN LOGGED IN SINCE YOUR THREAT, please see here for that information, good job giving us time to work it out. This is the kind of stuff that causes people to leave places like this, rash and unreasonable moderators. You kinda jumped the gun here.

I'll refund his money, all of it. but I can promise, it won't happen anytime soon. I simply don't have 85 bucks to send out. I will just request a resonable time frame, I just sent my taxes in so I can refund him when those come back. But just know rx7roller02, take heart to the phrase, "The pot calling the Kettle black." If you don't want people "mistreating" others, you need to also show some self restraint and be respectful.

rx7roller02

Listen up, son, dont come in here being a smartass to me. I already warned you about the way you treated your buyer, YOU WILL NOT treat me in the same manner. Can ya hear me now??

Um, yeah, it really is. You offered a part for $50. Someone obviously had made a mistake somewhere, they offered to pay you more than your asking price. Clearly there was some confusion there....and you must have known that something wasnt right. But by your own admission, you took his money and said NOTHING.

walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....we shouldnt be surprised if it has webbed feet too then.

Dont play games, dude...you took his money and you spent it. Yes or no??

Restocking fees?? Sorry, no dice. INDIVIDUALS do not have restocking fees because they dont keep stock. BUSINESSES have restocking fees, and if you now want to pretend to be a BUSINESS, I will see to it that you are not allowed to sell as much as one single part on this forum ever again, unless you pony up the monthly vendor fees. YOUR CHOICE.....dont try to play the big dog with me, chief....it doesnt work.

You will if you intend to have the ability to continue to sell on this forum, chief. your call....

Like I said, you cannot be THAT broke if youre looking to buy a car. So dont chuck your BS in my direction. No one here's buying the "I am really broke" routine when youre shopping for parts, by your own admission and your own choice.

You ever hear of BAN?? This is your one final warning--kill the smartass routine with me. Or, I will kick you off this forum so fast, well, you'll beat your slow automatic FD off the line, and without your tricycle this time.

so which is it??? "I really am broke", or "yes, I choose to spend my money on my car".....when youre ready to dispense with the bull, be sure to let us know.

Um, dude, IT IS MY JOB to get involved in these deals here. Dont like it?? You are always free to populate a different forum. Take note, however, if you do, you will likely find the same basic attitude against your actions. Most car forums do not take kindly to people owing someone money, but buying cars there instead of handling their business like a man. In case you forgot, there are rules here, and you agreed to follow them when you joined.

Thats your excuse now??? You asked a guy about buying a car that doesnt run, and you claim youre getting an auto loan to pay for it?? How many banks will loan money against a car that's a half step away from the boneyard and doesnt even run?

Then again, youre "SO BROKE", and yet you are looking to take on a new payment? yeah, you can try being honest whenever youre ready.


And see MY above post for the only offer you have available to you at this time.

"And Paypal is a joke, they usually only enforce anything if it was a sale on ebay. Once in a while I see them do right in deals like this but not usually."---me, the guy who went to school to study the law, who has years of experience dealing with the criminal and civil courts professionally, and who moderates this forum, which means I deal with countless people who try to scam others or cannot agree on how to resolve their issues.

Thanks for playing....


Dude, what in the world is your malfunction? I learned about this thread the day it was posted--5 March. I stayed quiet on it because you two were communicating and I wanted to give you time to try to resolve it on your own. I posted on 9 March only to tell everyone else to stay out of the thread so you guys could resolve it. No resolution ever came. I posted again in 11 March in the morning....and said "if not resolved when I get in from work, then I will resolve it". Where do you get off thinking you can tell a moderator on this forum what to do or when to do it? The blame is shared by both of you but the fault for this not being resolved lies on YOU. Didnt another moderator on the first page even tell you the same thing I am telling you now--that a full refund is what makes sense? So lets stop pretending that I somehow am to blame for you not handling your business.....



yeah, I jumped the gun....I waited a full week before I said enough's enough. If THAT is unreasonable to you, then seek life elsewhere.

That is fine. In the meantime, you are not allowed to buy anything on this forum. If I see you spending money on here while you claim you have no money to fix this, you will be gone.

I am going to say this one last time, and after that there WILL BE NO MORE WARNINGS.

I waited all week, and watched you curse people out and talk a lot of trash. And then, when I called you out on the way you talked to justaimme, you denied that you did wrong there. But then you apologized to him.....thats funny, "I am sorry for being an ***", but at the same time, "I didnt talk down to him".

Here is the rule on this forum.....

Are you getting this yet? Is it sinking in? Because you are all out of warnings. I laid back on this thread for a week, even when another moderator had posted in here. And you are no closer now to this being done than you were a week ago. So, you refund his money. You get your part back. And you can sell your part and get the money you should get for it. He pays for shipping back to you. Thats the deal. If you dont accept it, you wont buy or sell another item on this forum again.

Oh, and before you think youre gonna reply with yet more insults and ridiculous nonsense, think again. If I see one more post like that from you, it will be your last post here.

theo481

iTrader: (10)

Like I said earlier, I don't have the money to do it. I don't really care if you believe it or not tbh. When I get the money from my tax refund I'll send him his money.

rx7roller02

And like I told you, thats fine....just dont expect to buy one single part from this forum until you have refunded his money in full to him. And next time you think youre gonna sound off smartass to me or any other moderator on this forum, think again.

If I find you trying to buy something here, you are gone. If I find out youre doing it through PMs, youre gone. Dont try me, theo....you wont like the outcome.

justaimme

iTrader: (13)

rx7roller02, thank you for getting involve .

Theo481, I admit it was my fault for not reading your for sale thread thoroughly.

I will shipped back your Tripower with Signature confirmation from USPS as soon as I receive the refund of 85$.

rx7roller02, should I closed the paypal dispute or leave it open until I receive the refund from the Theo481?

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

yes, if it were me i would probably start getting upset as the seller is right now also. 85 bucks isn't the same from one person to the next so that is irrelevant completely. 85 bucks to a homeless person would pay for a fifth of whiskey and a nice hotel room for the night, as well as a 5 dollaer hooker, lol.

the buyer didn't read, if i spent the time to pack and ship an item then was expected to eat another $5-10 in shipping and waste time trying to relist the item, well then i'm out a few hours of my life dealing with the issue and 5-10 out of my wallet because someone can't take the time to read the listing.

i wouldn't refund it either, theo's offer to refund $15 after the buyer sells the pod sounds more than fair, it was his mistake in misreading the thread.

i would have second guessed it if i was offered more than asking price but i HAVE had that happen before to secure an item, more than a few times.

plain and simply i wouldn't accept any monetary loss on my part for something of this nature, may even request a restocking fee for my lost time if the buyer was purely against selling the pod himself.

so saying he should refund the $85 keep in mind the seller did have to fork out for initial shipping to the buyer, i wouldn't accept that simply because of a clerical error on the buyers part in a listing with a gauge pod that really does have a similar name. i have people give me different names on items ALL the time because, well, we are all different and think differently.

but to the seller, it is a good idea to hold the money on items at least until the item is recieved and is acceptable to the buyer. i see it far too often that the money is long gone even 5 minutes after the transaction is made before the item even leaves the seller's hands, for that i almost feel like you should be reprimanded and take some form of loss here.

Jhereg

iTrader: (27)

I think Roller handled this well... You really went out of your way to test the line and you're lucky you didn't get a temp ban. Glad to see a resolution is in the works finally